Thanks for the responses, I needed to be a bit clarified with it because I'm close to finally being able to take a planet. (more like 4 hours to be precise)
And last question....do all planet's research labs add together the points produced? (eg 5 research labs in planet one and another 5 in planet 2 produce 10 science points per hour)
Of course, I need o send some colony ships to gain some PP too unless I get an SU <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
EDIT : And I swear this is the last time I ask....next I'm going to try and get to understand it myself <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
CplDavisI hunt the arctic SnonosJoin Date: 2003-01-09Member: 12097Members
edited March 2004
<!--QuoteBegin-RaVe+Mar 17 2004, 10:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RaVe @ Mar 17 2004, 10:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Thanks for the responses, I needed to be a bit clarified with it because I'm close to finally being able to take a planet. (more like 4 hours to be precise)
And last question....do all planet's research labs add together the points produced? (eg 5 research labs in planet one and another 5 in planet 2 produce 10 science points per hour)
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Add up your total population for all you planets + total number of science labs or robo factories.
So
If you have 2 planets both with level 5 population and each planet has 6 reseach labs
you will get 5+5+6+6= 22 science an hour.
The total numbers for PP, science etc does not count any bonus % increases or decrease you may have from a custom race or artifacts.
You have to figure that out yourself. Not hard though. Just a normal percent number and then add that too the total to see what you are really getting.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->12:40:14 - Mar 17 Congratulations! Your attacking fleet was victorious at Alpha Sadatoni 10. You gained 99 experience points from mcmanaman 12:10:16 - Mar 17 You have new mail from Stakhanov. 11:09:26 - Mar 17 Congratulations! Your attacking fleet was victorious at Alpha Miram 3. You gained 9 experience points from wise1 10:04:47 - Mar 17 Congratulations! Your attacking fleet was victorious at Alpha Miram 4. You gained 64 experience points from wise1 06:45:51 - Mar 17 We just colonized Alpha Sadatoni 12! Congratulations! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
woot! i was worried he would raise his SB to level 10 (227 xp), but he didn't. He is now officially dead. I've sent him terms of surrender, and i expect him to resign within a day. (Note: wise1 is an afk'er, i'm talking about mcmanaman)
I've got quite a few planets I can expand to because basically my system mate and I defeated both our home system players and the system to our rights players.
We have 4 other allies above us. I offered a couple of them planets in our system (worried about there being big holes where a fleet can sneak in by. But this ally has touched down on a planet that I conquered the SB for and killed my small holding fleet. I have mailed him to say my displeasure.....
Should I be an arse and get back my planet? I am 10hrs form my next culture level and although it is a very under-developed planet, I still conquered it.
Whats your thoughts, let bygons be bygons, forgive and let the planet go?
slashburn.
EDIT > I've been an arse and messaged the allie to move his fleet because I have accidently <cough> sent a fleet to the planet.
Newsflash > I had asked a couple of the other allies if they had a fleet in my system, none of them knew anything. I asked them to ask the other allies. I send my fleet to remove the threat....... Oh no, not only is it the same guy but I kill 100 of his destroyers.... Oh **** I hope I haven't fuxxored my alliance <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Saving for the softcore NS alliance is proceeding well. ~3500 AD's have been saved thus far (pushing the price of the AD waaay down <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->).
Since I'm still queitly expanding within my system and I'm surrounded by fairly novice players, I'm fairly confident that I can save up the necessary 8K AD's within another week.
Just a question, who is saving for the Hardcore TSA alliance?
It seems since me and my are the most powerful people around and everyone is sending me messages like,
You wanta have a NAP, you wanta ally, hey wanta take this guy down with me? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Allies are stupid. Kill them....kill them all.
OMG I haev teh question! BTW, if an Admin manages to see htis post, be sure to reset my post count and give me the title 'Astrowars Nubbeh' because I need to be punished for breaking a promise I made for myself.
Is it good if the enemy is pumping up his SB to level 7 in 3 days?
If it is a yes then well....I'll be <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And what is a NAP? A nap?
Hehe 2 hours later an AFKer is going to be sent to his doom....I hope the other one does too, seems like they were AFK for who know how long <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
btw Cronos... the official alliance is the "hardcore" one , which competes with others. NS is just the tag of NS players who won't join TSA. There's absolutely no use spending that much money on a second alliance... AW alliance's only goal is to win the game , or have a high ranking. Don't you remember that TSA had a pretty low ranking last beta ? Making an even lower NS alliance doesn't make sense , I find 8000 ADs pretty expensive for just a tag.
I just joined an official alliance, considering how I am nub I figured TSA wouldn't want me. It's called the ISA, my sytem partners invited me and I thought it would be rude not to <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I will still treat all NS and TSA people as NAP/Allied. I hope this little alliance doesn't get in anyones way.
i can donate some money as well to fund the establishment of an official TSA... as for the ns, it's more of a for-fun thing that doesn't focus too much on winning.
He is a multi status of red and has been idle for 2 days, so I suspect his account has been locked by multi admin!
Regards Es Quatro <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Cool. I'll move in soonish. I wonder bout how many Destroyers I should send..
Edit: Woah. Definitely not hitting the lvl 14 SB first. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> I think I'll go for the lvl 8's <i>then</i> hit the lvl 14. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> Methinks about 125 on each of the lvl 8 planets.
if you have a travel time (use the calculator!) of less than 7-8 hours, you can get away with maybe 40-50 destroyers at each of the level 8 SB...then send the rest of your destroyers in a second wave so you cut down your losses. SB's are crazy good at inflicting losses on the winner.
*edit* make sure you send them after he's gone to sleep <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->impressive, now release your anger <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> i can't wait to see what happens next.
Well if others feel that NSA is going to be somewhat worthless, then I'll simply kickoff the hardcore alliance and be done with it.
Thus far, 4300 AD's saved, 3700 to go.
Remember, the TSA will have only <i>THE</i> best players from the last beta. I only get entry because I'm the one forking over the PP's for it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> Otherwise, I should quickly be pushed down to the bottom of the ladder and out of the alliance score equation fairly quickly.
At last count, I believe Transmission, Stakhanov and Siberian Dingo were our best. If there are any more good players, give me a yell because my memory sux0rs <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
best players skillwise, or best players pointwise? if you want points, i'm decently high (i won't get that high up cause i took penalties to science and culture, the two big point-producers), but my gut instinct tells me that we probably want a few high-scorers that are out towards the rim too so those of us with a bunch of idlers and noobs around us can boost up the big guys by sending them cash later on. Oh, and Cabal is a banker.
I'd have to say a mix of both. We'd need those capable of actually playing the game (fighting, defending, etc) and those that are good at accumulating points (developing their planets etc).
It would also be best if we kept a good player outside of the alliance to keep the alliance transfer balance positive and to serve as an emergency cash cow in times of peril <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Also, the sooner we know where our alliance members are, the better.
My location; Alpha Enif (-38/-55). I'm surrounded by fairly new players that will serve as no major threat to me. I believe that my only competition will be one "-DaMiEn-" at Alpha Caiam (-42/-54). If anyone is in proximity, we should team up to eliminate him as soon as possible and establish our dominion over the alpha sector <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Dont worry about money transfers, I'll be able to setup the alliance soon enough, and it keeps the transfer balance positive. I have four planets on dedicated Interstellar trading missions now so it should be around about wedensday that I'll be able to establish the alliance. Once the alliance is going we should work towards transferring funds over to someone that can manage it, someone both trustworthy and in a position to do so as well as not being in the official alliance itself.
Use your money for establishing Trade Agreements with other high ranking players or other useful ends. The alliance is a onetime expense that bears no other benefits except for group victory, this can be achieved at any time and can thus afford to wait several days.
<!--QuoteBegin-Wheeee+Mar 18 2004, 05:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wheeee @ Mar 18 2004, 05:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if you have a travel time (use the calculator!) of less than 7-8 hours, you can get away with maybe 40-50 destroyers at each of the level 8 SB...then send the rest of your destroyers in a second wave so you cut down your losses. SB's are crazy good at inflicting losses on the winner.
*edit* make sure you send them after he's gone to sleep <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I only have Math 7 now, and Energy 8, so I'll have to bump those up before the jump. But Kram has been idle for 2 days, with a red multi status, so I hope he wont log back in.
<!--QuoteBegin-Cronos+Mar 18 2004, 10:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cronos @ Mar 18 2004, 10:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->It would also be best if we kept a good player outside of the alliance to keep the alliance transfer balance positive and to serve as an emergency cash cow in times of peril <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-"Cronos"+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ("Cronos")</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Once the alliance is going we should work towards transferring funds over to someone that can manage it, someone both trustworthy and in a position to do so as well as not being in the official alliance itself.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hey I could do that. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> I have 6 planets and so far, I've got the players who know what they're doing in my area on my side. And I'm sure my allies and I can handle our competition as well.
Comments
And last question....do all planet's research labs add together the points produced? (eg 5 research labs in planet one and another 5 in planet 2 produce 10 science points per hour)
Of course, I need o send some colony ships to gain some PP too unless I get an SU <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
EDIT : And I swear this is the last time I ask....next I'm going to try and get to understand it myself <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And last question....do all planet's research labs add together the points produced? (eg 5 research labs in planet one and another 5 in planet 2 produce 10 science points per hour)
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Add up your total population for all you planets + total number of science labs or robo factories.
So
If you have 2 planets both with level 5 population and each planet has 6 reseach labs
you will get 5+5+6+6= 22 science an hour.
The total numbers for PP, science etc does not count any bonus % increases or decrease you may have from a custom race or artifacts.
You have to figure that out yourself. Not hard though. Just a normal percent number and then add that too the total to see what you are really getting.
12:10:16 - Mar 17 You have new mail from Stakhanov.
11:09:26 - Mar 17 Congratulations! Your attacking fleet was victorious at Alpha Miram 3. You gained 9 experience points from wise1
10:04:47 - Mar 17 Congratulations! Your attacking fleet was victorious at Alpha Miram 4. You gained 64 experience points from wise1
06:45:51 - Mar 17 We just colonized Alpha Sadatoni 12!
Congratulations!
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
woot! i was worried he would raise his SB to level 10 (227 xp), but he didn't. He is now officially dead. I've sent him terms of surrender, and i expect him to resign within a day. (Note: wise1 is an afk'er, i'm talking about mcmanaman)
We have 4 other allies above us. I offered a couple of them planets in our system (worried about there being big holes where a fleet can sneak in by. But this ally has touched down on a planet that I conquered the SB for and killed my small holding fleet. I have mailed him to say my displeasure.....
Should I be an arse and get back my planet? I am 10hrs form my next culture level and although it is a very under-developed planet, I still conquered it.
Whats your thoughts, let bygons be bygons, forgive and let the planet go?
slashburn.
EDIT > I've been an arse and messaged the allie to move his fleet because I have accidently <cough> sent a fleet to the planet.
Newsflash > I had asked a couple of the other allies if they had a fleet in my system, none of them knew anything. I asked them to ask the other allies. I send my fleet to remove the threat....... Oh no, not only is it the same guy but I kill 100 of his destroyers....
Oh **** I hope I haven't fuxxored my alliance <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
It seems since me and my are the most powerful people around and everyone is sending me messages like,
You wanta have a NAP, you wanta ally, hey wanta take this guy down with me?
Since I'm still queitly expanding within my system and I'm surrounded by fairly novice players, I'm fairly confident that I can save up the necessary 8K AD's within another week.
Just a question, who is saving for the Hardcore TSA alliance?
It seems since me and my are the most powerful people around and everyone is sending me messages like,
You wanta have a NAP, you wanta ally, hey wanta take this guy down with me? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Allies are stupid. Kill them....kill them all.
Is it good if the enemy is pumping up his SB to level 7 in 3 days?
If it is a yes then well....I'll be <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And what is a NAP? A nap?
Hehe 2 hours later an AFKer is going to be sent to his doom....I hope the other one does too, seems like they were AFK for who know how long <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Estimated time to reach 8K - 5 Days
I will still treat all NS and TSA people as NAP/Allied. I hope this little alliance doesn't get in anyones way.
cheers.
So: Do I backstab my ally (possibly with the help of some nearby NS'ers), or expand into another system (again, with some nearby NS'ers).
Also, should I buy a Basalt Monolth, or build a fleet? I'm close to lvl 11 (Cyber Net) on all but 2 of my planets.
Do not attack your system buddy, simply because he has just as many planets as you.
I recommend you go to the system Alpha Gorgonea Tertia (-14/-52) and either
A) Take a free planets (more than likely they are sieged with 1 destroyer)
B) Take out Kramn,
<b>Intelligence Report </b>
Biology 0
Economy 0
Energy 5
Mathematics 0
Physics 7
Social 2
<b>Race Summary </b>
-12% science.
+8% culture.
+8% production.
-14% attack.
He is a multi status of red and has been idle for 2 days, so I suspect his account has been locked by multi admin!
Regards
Es Quatro
Do not attack your system buddy, simply because he has just as many planets as you.
I recommend you go to the system Alpha Gorgonea Tertia (-14/-52) and either
A) Take a free planets (more than likely they are sieged with 1 destroyer)
B) Take out Kramn,
<b>Intelligence Report </b>
Biology 0
Economy 0
Energy 5
Mathematics 0
Physics 7
Social 2
<b>Race Summary </b>
-12% science.
+8% culture.
+8% production.
-14% attack.
He is a multi status of red and has been idle for 2 days, so I suspect his account has been locked by multi admin!
Regards
Es Quatro <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Cool. I'll move in soonish. I wonder bout how many Destroyers I should send..
Edit: Woah. Definitely not hitting the lvl 14 SB first. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> I think I'll go for the lvl 8's <i>then</i> hit the lvl 14. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> Methinks about 125 on each of the lvl 8 planets.
*edit* make sure you send them after he's gone to sleep <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
*evil grin*
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i can't wait to see what happens next.
Thus far, 4300 AD's saved, 3700 to go.
Remember, the TSA will have only <i>THE</i> best players from the last beta. I only get entry because I'm the one forking over the PP's for it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> Otherwise, I should quickly be pushed down to the bottom of the ladder and out of the alliance score equation fairly quickly.
At last count, I believe Transmission, Stakhanov and Siberian Dingo were our best. If there are any more good players, give me a yell because my memory sux0rs <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
It would also be best if we kept a good player outside of the alliance to keep the alliance transfer balance positive and to serve as an emergency cash cow in times of peril <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Also, the sooner we know where our alliance members are, the better.
My location; Alpha Enif (-38/-55). I'm surrounded by fairly new players that will serve as no major threat to me. I believe that my only competition will be one "-DaMiEn-" at Alpha Caiam (-42/-54). If anyone is in proximity, we should team up to eliminate him as soon as possible and establish our dominion over the alpha sector <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
*edit* if i decide not to spend my pp from tomorrow, i'll be able to transfer around ~3k. if i do spend my pp, it'll be around 1k.
Use your money for establishing Trade Agreements with other high ranking players or other useful ends. The alliance is a onetime expense that bears no other benefits except for group victory, this can be achieved at any time and can thus afford to wait several days.
*edit* make sure you send them after he's gone to sleep <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I only have Math 7 now, and Energy 8, so I'll have to bump those up before the jump. But Kram has been idle for 2 days, with a red multi status, so I hope he wont log back in.
<!--QuoteBegin-"Cronos"+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ("Cronos")</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Once the alliance is going we should work towards transferring funds over to someone that can manage it, someone both trustworthy and in a position to do so as well as not being in the official alliance itself.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hey I could do that. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> I have 6 planets and so far, I've got the players who know what they're doing in my area on my side. And I'm sure my allies and I can handle our competition as well.