<!--QuoteBegin-ShenTraX+Feb 6 2004, 03:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ShenTraX @ Feb 6 2004, 03:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> people attending the current flaming:
13 Members: ShenTraX, esuna, Drunken.Monkey, IAN-SDZ, Zazi, Mendasp, Matthew L. Barre, Kouji San, HoundDawg, Anime Tentacle Monster, Thursday-, Demiguise, GhostlyPea
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My solution to this problem is to make Zazi and Thursday mods for the Mapping Forum so they can nuke post like this to
A) Prevent having this topic come up once a week B) Lock or even delete posts on this topic to keep the board more clean. C) Delete post by people like Matthew L. Barre so they don't throw a hissy fit and start flame wars. D) Possibly ban people like Matthew L. Barre who insist on arguing with people who have actually read and understood the guidlines yet insist on continuing with his hissy fit.
<!--QuoteBegin-KungFuDiscoMonkey+Feb 6 2004, 01:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KungFuDiscoMonkey @ Feb 6 2004, 01:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> My solution to this problem is to make Zazi and Thursday mods for the Mapping Forum so they can nuke post like this to
A) Prevent having this topic come up once a week B) Lock or even delete posts on this topic to keep the board more clean. C) Delete post by people like Matthew L. Barre so they don't throw a hissy fit and start flame wars. D) Possibly ban people like Matthew L. Barre who insist on arguing with people who have actually read and understood the guidlines yet insist on continuing with his hissy fit. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I second that!
Wow, this thread is a mess. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Kouji_SanSr. Hινε UÏкεεÏεг - EUPT DeputyThe NetherlandsJoin Date: 2003-05-13Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
edited February 2004
hmm lets end the horror with a tale about the half-life engine <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The half-life engine DOES NOT like large open areas. If its going to render more then its able to the map is useless due to LAGG and FPS drop. It doesnt care if you have one of the best 3d cards @ the moment, if it has met its rendering capability its not going to run smooth...
The guidelines dont insinuate that NS and backstory isnt good for outdoor maps but its insinuating just that NS is optimized for indoor combat...
And another thing wide open areas are to much in favour for the marines since skulks without leap, onos and gorges dont stand a chance against a medium upgraded marine force...
<span style='color:red'>AND NEVER FLAME!!! KEEP THINGS CIVIL SHALL WE!?</span>
GreetzZz Kouji San
Note: If someone wants to make an outdoor map then please be our guest. It could turn out to be great if done correctly. On the other hand it could be a totally useless peace of crap. Thats the risk involved and if a mapper has put a lot of heart and time into a map I think that rebuilding large pieces of the map is not the way a mapper intends to work. So most mappers play it save and make maps the way NS is optimized <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
[edit]never flame turned red and typos sorry <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> [/edit]
<!--QuoteBegin-Drunken.Monkey+Feb 6 2004, 03:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Drunken.Monkey @ Feb 6 2004, 03:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Wow, what have happened to mankind? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well to understand what has happend to man kind we must first understand what is mankind. Mankind is made up of the two words, mank and ind. Now since both these words are a mystery it is also a mystery of what happend to mankind.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Kouji San Posted on Feb 6 2004, 04:17 AM hmm lets end the horror with a tale about the half-life engine <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-HoundDawg+Feb 6 2004, 10:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (HoundDawg @ Feb 6 2004, 10:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Shouldn't this thread be moved to the "NS newbie mapping" forum anyway?
Moderators? go go go <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Nope. This should be locked.
i have some outdooring in my map.. the rine start <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> but there will be some poison gas in the top of the "room" <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> and it wont be climbable
<!--QuoteBegin-Mendasp+Feb 6 2004, 03:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mendasp @ Feb 6 2004, 03:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-HoundDawg+Feb 6 2004, 10:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (HoundDawg @ Feb 6 2004, 10:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Shouldn't this thread be moved to the "NS newbie mapping" forum anyway?
Moderators? go go go <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Nope. This should be locked.
Flaming = Insta-lock <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Which is why we need a few mapping mods to handle situations like this.
WOW. Seriously guys, i thought the NS forums were above this sort of childish behavior. Look at yourselves! You're all children yelling at eachother because one of you decided to play cops and robbers instead of hide and seek! Are you all really so near-sighted and immature that you can't tell someone their idea has been discussed before and leave it at that? Shame on you! granted a few people wrote soft spoken answers, but this has been blown way out of proportion. i would ask a moderator to lock this thread before it gets even more out of hand. This is rediculous.
<!--QuoteBegin-Belgarion+Feb 6 2004, 03:23 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Belgarion @ Feb 6 2004, 03:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> WOW. Seriously guys, i thought the NS forums were above this sort of childish behavior. Look at yourselves! You're all children yelling at eachother because one of you decided to play cops and robbers instead of hide and seek! Are you all really so near-sighted and immature that you can't tell someone their idea has been discussed before and leave it at that? Shame on you! granted a few people wrote soft spoken answers, but this has been blown way out of proportion. i would ask a moderator to lock this thread before it gets even more out of hand. This is rediculous. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yet immensly entertaining at the same time <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
But everyone has their breaking point and I think we have seen that. Everyone is just too tired of seeing threads about outdoor maps. It was bound to happen sometime.
<!--QuoteBegin-ShenTraX+Feb 6 2004, 03:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ShenTraX @ Feb 6 2004, 03:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> people attending the current flaming:
13 Members: ShenTraX, esuna, Drunken.Monkey, IAN-SDZ, Zazi, Mendasp, Matthew L. Barre, Kouji San, HoundDawg, Anime Tentacle Monster, Thursday-, Demiguise, GhostlyPea
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I made a very level headed remark about outdoor maps
Kouji_SanSr. Hινε UÏкεεÏεг - EUPT DeputyThe NetherlandsJoin Date: 2003-05-13Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
edited February 2004
Vote for LOCK since my post has handled "all" the problems involved with outdoor maps and the hl engine etc...
This is going nowhere since people are still answering as it is a contest or something between none outdoor maps and outdoor maps or a mix of both <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Time to shake hands and make peice...
If this thread is mayb able to get back on topic (which I doubt) lock is the only way to end this horror as I said before <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
[edit]Im gone and going to reading mode on this thread, since outdoor maps are not my style. hope you get it sorted out <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->[/edit]
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13 Members: ShenTraX, esuna, Drunken.Monkey, IAN-SDZ, Zazi, Mendasp, Matthew L. Barre, Kouji San, HoundDawg, Anime Tentacle Monster, Thursday-, Demiguise, GhostlyPea
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LOLOLOLOLOLOL
A) Prevent having this topic come up once a week
B) Lock or even delete posts on this topic to keep the board more clean.
C) Delete post by people like Matthew L. Barre so they don't throw a hissy fit and start flame wars.
D) Possibly ban people like Matthew L. Barre who insist on arguing with people who have actually read and understood the guidlines yet insist on continuing with his hissy fit.
A) Prevent having this topic come up once a week
B) Lock or even delete posts on this topic to keep the board more clean.
C) Delete post by people like Matthew L. Barre so they don't throw a hissy fit and start flame wars.
D) Possibly ban people like Matthew L. Barre who insist on arguing with people who have actually read and understood the guidlines yet insist on continuing with his hissy fit. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I second that!
The half-life engine DOES NOT like large open areas. If its going to render more then its able to the map is useless due to LAGG and FPS drop. It doesnt care if you have one of the best 3d cards @ the moment, if it has met its rendering capability its not going to run smooth...
The guidelines dont insinuate that NS and backstory isnt good for outdoor maps but its insinuating just that NS is optimized for indoor combat...
And another thing wide open areas are to much in favour for the marines since skulks without leap, onos and gorges dont stand a chance against a medium upgraded marine force...
<span style='color:red'>AND NEVER FLAME!!! KEEP THINGS CIVIL SHALL WE!?</span>
GreetzZz Kouji San
Note:
If someone wants to make an outdoor map then please be our guest. It could turn out to be great if done correctly. On the other hand it could be a totally useless peace of crap. Thats the risk involved and if a mapper has put a lot of heart and time into a map I think that rebuilding large pieces of the map is not the way a mapper intends to work. So most mappers play it save and make maps the way NS is optimized <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
[edit]never flame turned red and typos sorry <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> [/edit]
Well to understand what has happend to man kind we must first understand what is mankind. Mankind is made up of the two words, mank and ind. Now since both these words are a mystery it is also a mystery of what happend to mankind.
Moderators? go go go
hmm lets end the horror with a tale about the half-life engine
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Point scored for the home team!
Moderators? go go go <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nope. This should be locked.
Flaming = Insta-lock
Moderators? go go go <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nope. This should be locked.
Flaming = Insta-lock <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Which is why we need a few mapping mods to handle situations like this.
This is rediculous.
This is rediculous. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yet immensly entertaining at the same time <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
But everyone has their breaking point and I think we have seen that. Everyone is just too tired of seeing threads about outdoor maps. It was bound to happen sometime.
13 Members: ShenTraX, esuna, Drunken.Monkey, IAN-SDZ, Zazi, Mendasp, Matthew L. Barre, Kouji San, HoundDawg, Anime Tentacle Monster, Thursday-, Demiguise, GhostlyPea
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Uh no
I made a very level headed remark about outdoor maps
and havent said jack since
This is going nowhere since people are still answering as it is a contest or something between none outdoor maps and outdoor maps or a mix of both <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Time to shake hands and make peice...
If this thread is mayb able to get back on topic (which I doubt) lock is the only way to end this horror as I said before <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
[edit]Im gone and going to reading mode on this thread, since outdoor maps are not my style. hope you get it sorted out <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->[/edit]
GreetzZz Kouji San