Outdoors Map?
Nurot
Join Date: 2003-12-04 Member: 23932Members, Constellation
Join Date: 2003-12-04 Member: 23932Members, Constellation
I know everyone one says if you want an outdoor map... use a biodome... or something like that to explain things. I was just wonder if anyone has made a completely outdoor map yet? With rock formations, trees, caves and what not.... An outdoor map would certainly be a nice change and its much more plausable than some of the ideas that are brought up for mapping... I cant map... but I was just wondering if anyone might be working on such a project such as this and we had it to look forward to?
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the harder answer is, that it'd spoil the continuity of having lerks just suddenly stopping when they hit the skybox (the brush that contains the sky), plus skulks can walk on the skybox, and levitating skulks are baaad <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Just try to use the search next time. Searching for "outdoor maps" for example got me those threads :
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=60932&hl=outdoor+maps' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...hl=outdoor+maps</a>
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=56812&hl=outdoor+maps' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...hl=outdoor+maps</a>
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=47438&hl=outdoor+maps' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...hl=outdoor+maps</a>
and many many more...
Check the official <a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/Mapping_Guidelines.html' target='_blank'>Mapping Guidelines</a> and the <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=100' target='_blank'>Mapping FAQ</a> for all your needs.
*edit* i really need to learn to type faster <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Actually I read in the FAQ that they can't walk on the sky in the same way that they can't walk on clipping brushes.
Actually I read in the FAQ that they can't walk on the sky in the same way that they can't walk on clipping brushes. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
A decen't compiler puts a clip brush on the skybox, and as of ns 2.0 skulks can walk on clip brushes.
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And no it wont look realisitc
Does anyone read the guidelines anymore? Seriously folks, take five minutes out of your busy schedule and read it before you make any stupid comments. Also, it would help to have some common sense, and to play NS before making such comments. If one has common sense and played NS for five minutes, one would say, "Gee... looks like NS's theme is spaceship/sci-fi indoors." Also, another good thing to think about is what engine NS is on. It ain't UT2k3, fellas, and it certainly isn't IGI. Damn, what engine IS NS on? I forget. Isn't it called "Half-Life?" I swear it was something like that... but if it were Half-Life, doesn't that mean that wide outdoor areas can't be done to look any good? Yeah, I think so.
This is the second time I have had to rant about this. I should post a big f-ing message saying, "READ ME FIRST BEFORE MAKING ANY SORT OF COMMENT ABOUT ANYTHING EVER OR I WILL KILL YOU BEFORE YOU FINISH YOUR FIRST WORD!" Honestly folks. Take some time to think. Hell, it doesn't have to be more than six minutes and some common sense, and by the looks of recent posts, common sense is lacking.
That is all, my rant is complete. If you have any beef with me, take it up with my Commanding Officer, Thursday-.
Does anyone read the guidelines anymore? Seriously folks, take five minutes out of your busy schedule and read it before you make any stupid comments. Also, it would help to have some common sense, and to play NS before making such comments. If one has common sense and played NS for five minutes, one would say, "Gee... looks like NS's theme is spaceship/sci-fi indoors." Also, another good thing to think about is what engine NS is on. It ain't UT2k3, fellas, and it certainly isn't IGI. Damn, what engine IS NS on? I forget. Isn't it called "Half-Life?" I swear it was something like that... but if it were Half-Life, doesn't that mean that wide outdoor areas can't be done to look any good? Yeah, I think so.
This is the second time I have had to rant about this. I should post a big f-ing message saying, "READ ME FIRST BEFORE MAKING ANY SORT OF COMMENT ABOUT ANYTHING EVER OR I WILL KILL YOU BEFORE YOU FINISH YOUR FIRST WORD!" Honestly folks. Take some time to think. Hell, it doesn't have to be more than six minutes and some common sense, and by the looks of recent posts, common sense is lacking.
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Zazi has ordered me to change my post, so i did
Does anyone read the guidelines anymore? Seriously folks, take five minutes out of your busy schedule and read it before you make any stupid comments. Also, it would help to have some common sense, and to play NS before making such comments. If one has common sense and played NS for five minutes, one would say, "Gee... looks like NS's theme is spaceship/sci-fi indoors." Also, another good thing to think about is what engine NS is on. It ain't UT2k3, fellas, and it certainly isn't IGI. Damn, what engine IS NS on? I forget. Isn't it called "Half-Life?" I swear it was something like that... but if it were Half-Life, doesn't that mean that wide outdoor areas can't be done to look any good? Yeah, I think so.
This is the second time I have had to rant about this. I should post a big f-ing message saying, "READ ME FIRST BEFORE MAKING ANY SORT OF COMMENT ABOUT ANYTHING EVER OR I WILL KILL YOU BEFORE YOU FINISH YOUR FIRST WORD!" Honestly folks. Take some time to think. Hell, it doesn't have to be more than six minutes and some common sense, and by the looks of recent posts, common sense is lacking.
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Agree'd with Zazi. I gave him the link, he just ranted of his own free will <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
To continue from Zazi the HL Engine is very limited. Haven't people heard of polygons? Or is that better left for a mathematics lesson? Half-Life is very sensitive on r_speeds, and as some would say r_speeds are for girls, the HL engine will still render alot slower with a Great 256mb Ram Graphics card.
As mentioned in another post which I continued a "Zazi Rant" that there is nothing wrong with making corridors and having it look into an exterior area.
Also I did mention on the other posts, we need mods to start to get to grips with the forums, and stop these annoying posts on the main mapping forum which should be for technical worldcraft problems, showcasing maps and for discussing ns specific entities / problems.
As Zazi said, I'm happy to take a flame <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Flaming people because they think outdoor maps are possible is dumb.
It is possible Play FA sometime.
Are you gonna be in a valley of some sorts yes...will u be able to see really far...no
and if ur not in a valley u need to be real clever with the skybox.
Scifi themes? Yeah the CAN be inside do they have to be?
You apparently havent seen Star Ship troopers, Aliens 2 or Screamers they have outside scenese in the movies...
I mean you want a really easy to do outdoor level?
Make a Matrian Crater System with Series of INterior supply stations with Outdoor canyons leading to each with crevices and levels...
While u need to understand the technical limitations of an engin dont destroy the creative process because you have doubts that it may work. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
You obviously dont read. You were supposed to direct your flame at me, not Zazi.
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=100' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...p?showtopic=100</a>
I think this shows why this is a dumb topic. I wish people would read the <b>stickied</b> threads too.
I wasn't taking any side in the flame, nor was it directed towards you only. Also, I believe that's what you'd call a figure of speech, i.e it was not supposed to be taken literally. Whatever.
ANIME: YES, I HAVE PLAYED FA. I HAVE MAPPED FOR FA. LAST TIME I CHECKED, THERE ARE NO HUGE OUTDOOR AREAS, ONLY CITY STYLE MAPS WITH ROADS AND WHATNOT... THAT DEFINITION IS DUMBED DOWN, OBVIOUSLY, BUT IT'S THE GENERAL JIST.
MATTHEW: YES, I DID USE ALMOST THIS EXACT FLAME IN ANOTHER THREAD, AND Y'KNOW WHAT? YOU POSTED THE EXACT QUESTION THAT GUY ASKED TOO. SO LET ME THINK. IF SOMEONE ASKS ME WHAT COLOR THE SKY IS AND I SAY, "BLUE" DOES THAT MEAN THAT IF SOMEONE ELSE WERE TO ASK ME WHAT COLOR THE SKY IS, I CAN'T SAY BLUE? HOW DOES THAT WORK? LAST TIME I CHECKED, HERA AND FACEOFF AREN'T OUTDOOR ONLY MAPS. THEY HAVE BITS OF EXTERIOR, WHICH IS ALWAYS GOOD AND CAN BE DONE EASILY. WHAT YOU ASKED BEFORE, HOWEVER, CANNOT BE DONE SO SHUT UP ALREADY. AND YOU DO REALIZE THAT IN FACEOFF YOU'RE NOT WALKING ON THE ACTUAL SKY BRUSH, BUT A CLIP BRUSH INSTEAD, RIGHT? GIVEN YOUR IQ, I'D SAY THAT YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T KNOW THAT. WHICH ALSO MEANS THAT YOU PROBABLY LIED ABOUT READING THE GUIDELINES, AND IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE READ THE GUIDELINES YOU CERTAINLY HAVEN'T COMPREHENDED ANY OF IT AT ALL. HOW DO I HAVE A DOUBLE STANDARD, BY THE WAY? NO, REALLY. TELL ME. I WANT TO KNOW, SINCE I'M ALL INTO THIS "SOUL SEARCHING" CRAP. PLEASE TELL ME! TELL ME NOW, OK?! BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY REPLY, THOUGH, PLEASE PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO SOME COHERENT AND TANGIBLE SENTENCES THAT PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND. ALSO, USE OF PROPER TERMINOLOGY WOULD BE NICE, AND IF YOU HAVE SOME TERMINOLOGY THAT NO ONE UNDERSTANDS, PLEASE INCLUDE SOME DEFINITIONS SOMEWHERE.
OH YEAH, STOP BEING COOL. ONLY COOL PEOPLE CAN USE THE CAPSLOCK KEY.
Maps with small outdoor areas are acceptable, but large outoor areas are not.
Matthew L. Barre, you stand no chance of winning since you clearly have no idea of engine or mapping limitations whilst Zazi and most of the mapping community is.
And reading the webbed threads <b>including the FAQ</b> is expected of people in here. We don't want to waste our time covering the same points time and time again. Learn to use the search function of the forums.
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