Ns 3.0 On Won

ElestiaElestia Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1130Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Easy step to play without using steam</div> After you install 3.0 on Steam just go to steam>steamapps>(your email adress folder)>half-life

When you reach there just copy and paste nsp folder in your half life folder. Not your NS folder.

And you should be able to play the few WON servers availiable.
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  • GrillkohleGrillkohle Join Date: 2003-12-23 Member: 24695Members, Constellation
    edited January 2004
    I dont think this is gonna work for long. Once Natural Selection goes fully Steam supported, the code is most likely not gonna work on WON any more.

    Also, you should probably spend the effort on something more useful, for example:
    Find out how to get your Steam running if it isnt.
  • BOBDololBOBDolol Join Date: 2003-10-04 Member: 21431Members
    sigh guys just embrace the future can't you see its meant to be
  • ElestiaElestia Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1130Members
    Meh I created an account long ago, but now the cd-key is still in their database. My account was deleted or something (didn't use it for like a year) but the cd-key is still registered in their database and now it won't let me use it.
  • devicenulldevicenull Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15967Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--QuoteBegin-Elestia+Jan 29 2004, 10:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Elestia @ Jan 29 2004, 10:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Meh I created an account long ago, but now the cd-key is still in their database. My account was deleted or something (didn't use it for like a year) but the cd-key is still registered in their database and now it won't let me use it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Steam hasnt been running for a year,
    more likely you got VAC banned
  • ElestiaElestia Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1130Members
    I said like a year, not exactly. Dunno when I was asked for my cd key it says this:

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Steam was unable to register your CD-Key

    Either your product's CD-Key matches one already used in our database, or is invalid.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Then I went to their technical support and found out that that if you create multiple accounts to register into steam, but use the same CD-Key it will not work. Since it's already registered into their database. Dunno if my original account was deleted. When I entered my email adress it said no account uses that adress.
  • devicenulldevicenull Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15967Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Try using any email you registered, its probably still attached to one
  • Infected_MarineInfected_Marine Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11287Members
    There are not enough NSP Won servers or players. Looks like every one is going over to the darkside...
  • FlayraFlayra Game Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment San Francisco Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 3Super Administrators, NS2 Developer, Subnautica Developer
    We're going to try to support installing to your WON/HL directory in beta2 (even though the majority of servers are Steam, we'll support WON as long as it's alive).
  • IchthysIchthys Join Date: 2003-05-16 Member: 16359Members
    I wouldn't do that!

    People that have NS won cant play on steam and vice versa.
    Everybody is prepared to play on steam and making in compatible with won will just split the community.
  • SariselSarisel .::&#39; ( O ) &#39;;:-. .-.:;&#39; ( O ) &#39;::. Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18557Members, Constellation
    You have NSP in your sierra\half-life folder and in your steamapps\email@whatever\half-life folder so you can play both - if you wanted to. The problem is that eventually the plug will be pulled on WON, and then STEAM will be the only way (maybe LAN as well?)
  • CaptainPanakaCaptainPanaka Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4718Members
    So it IS possible to play NS 3.0 on LAN w/o having the Steam LAN gaming feature, yet?

    That's good to hear <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • EidolanEidolan Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8694Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Ichthys+Jan 30 2004, 12:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ichthys @ Jan 30 2004, 12:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wouldn't do that!

    People that have NS won cant play on steam and vice versa.
    Everybody is prepared to play on steam and making in compatible with won will just split the community. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Most people seem to like WON over steam, i for one will stop playing NS when it gose steam only. And i can't be the only one, think it of it that way before you say "death to won".
  • RSMemphisRSMemphis Join Date: 2003-08-19 Member: 19953Members
    I was not sure of what to think of Steam, but it works really well for me.
    On occasion, the resolution switch from WON browser to the game made the text in the game go wonky, or I lost 3/4 of the screen.

    Also, my pings are usually better now.
  • kolokolkolokol Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9166Members
    The steam community is probably alot more vibrant now. Im not looking back, particulalry as my favourite server is now firmly on steam.
  • Jabba_The_HuntJabba_The_Hunt Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11850Members
    Steam seems to have reached good much better level of reliablity now, I've only had one problem with it since Christmas which is certainly good news. Last few bugs to fix are sorting friends out so you can always sign in, and it updates correctly (sometimes you have to log back in to see whos online etc) and adding in LAN support.
  • KeyserKeyser Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13591Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Ichthys+Jan 30 2004, 12:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ichthys @ Jan 30 2004, 12:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wouldn't do that!

    People that have NS won cant play on steam and vice versa.
    Everybody is prepared to play on steam and making in compatible with won will just split the community. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What? I still have 2.01 installed to won and 3.0 installed to steam, and I can run both just fine.

    Nothing wrong with supporting the more stable system.
  • BryBry Join Date: 2003-01-23 Member: 12609Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Flayra+Jan 30 2004, 12:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flayra @ Jan 30 2004, 12:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> We're going to try to support installing to your WON/HL directory in beta2 (even though the majority of servers are Steam, we'll support WON as long as it's alive). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    bah don't do that Flayra it will jsut split the community and cause more problems <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • WirheWirhe Join Date: 2003-06-22 Member: 17610Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Then I went to their technical support and found out that that if you create multiple accounts to register into steam, but use the same CD-Key it will not work. Since it's already registered into their database. Dunno if my original account was deleted. When I entered my email adress it said no account uses that adress.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You know, I had this same problem. For a while I was SO **** off at Steam, because I knew that Valve would not, no chance in nine hells that *Valve* would offer some help, restore my CD-key. Valve, and especially the ones who are responsible of the CD-keys, is just a bunch of you-know-what. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Then I remembered that I had created an account long while back, when I had given a try to Steam. Still feeling **** off, though, because if I had not remembered it... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • rknZrknZ Join Date: 2003-10-23 Member: 21885Members
    I think when NS 3.0 is fully out and supported by Steam that Valve are gunna shutdown WON, NS being the last major mod to make the switch...
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Sm|o||o|th+Jan 30 2004, 01:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sm|o||o|th @ Jan 30 2004, 01:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think when NS 3.0 is fully out and supported by Steam that Valve are gunna shutdown WON, NS being the last major mod to make the switch... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No. Just no.

    WON will go down when VALVe feel that Steam is up and working properly, and most likely supported by more games. That's why i don't foresee WON going down until Half-Life 2 or CS:CZ's release. NS is, if you excuse the term, worthless, in a way. VALVe are gaining no profit by NS, there's no logic in basing your decisions on something you neither own nor have any control over.

    And as for whoever it was trying to "emotionally blackmail" the community.... You're trying to make us feel bad because you can't play on Steam? Really, nobody cares, one less person whining while we're off playing on Steam.
  • JezpuhJezpuh Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15157Banned
    Just wondering, why would you play on WON is you can play on Steam :\
    If it's not working then get help you lazy nubs ^^
  • flitzebogenflitzebogen Join Date: 2003-03-18 Member: 14646Members
    give them guys an installer for hl/won as soon as possible
    there are still people (like me) who will not install steam
    if i have to leave a well running thing and install another just to keep things running as well as theyve done before, then i´m sad to say i´m gone
    and with me the most popular german ns server of the last month
  • the_unlucky_onethe_unlucky_one Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19620Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Tails+Jan 30 2004, 08:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tails @ Jan 30 2004, 08:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Then I went to their technical support and found out that that if you create multiple accounts to register into steam, but use the same CD-Key it will not work. Since it's already registered into their database. Dunno if my original account was deleted. When I entered my email adress it said no account uses that adress.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You know, I had this same problem. For a while I was SO **** off at Steam, because I knew that Valve would not, no chance in nine hells that *Valve* would offer some help, restore my CD-key. Valve, and especially the ones who are responsible of the CD-keys, is just a bunch of you-know-what. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Then I remembered that I had created an account long while back, when I had given a try to Steam. Still feeling **** off, though, because if I had not remembered it... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i, feel your pain

    meaning i have the excat same problem. But in the past i remenber i could make mulitple accounts in 1 CD-Key, at least my friend did. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • INT3GRALINT3GRAL Join Date: 2003-12-11 Member: 24253Members
    Well, I live in Georgia (Country situated on the south bordering with RUssia). We don't have good internet here. So we cant even use Steam (too big filesize and so on). WON is preferred. What must we do to play NS 3.0 full Online without steam? Are there nosteam servers? Steam is not good thing.
    Help me.
    So we need to play NS 3.0 online without steam.
    Can we play LAN wihtout this steam??? <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TresthTresth Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5602Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-devicenull+Jan 30 2004, 04:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (devicenull @ Jan 30 2004, 04:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Steam hasnt been running for a year, <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Of course Steam has been running for a year, first Steam beta release was in early January of last year :x
  • WeltschmerzWeltschmerz Join Date: 2003-09-03 Member: 20538Members
    "People that have NS won cant play on steam and vice versa. Everybody is prepared to play on steam and making in compatible with won will just split the community."

    The community IS split. Once I'm forced to, I'll try steam, try HARD and give it every chance to work... if it won't, I'm (obviously) outta here. Reading people's 'horror' stories about Steam, I find it sad that we have to go thru all over again, what many of us already went through with WON long ago, just to keep playing... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    (sigh)
  • Red_SquirrelRed_Squirrel Join Date: 2003-12-15 Member: 24414Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Eidolan+Jan 30 2004, 09:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Eidolan @ Jan 30 2004, 09:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Ichthys+Jan 30 2004, 12:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ichthys @ Jan 30 2004, 12:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wouldn't do that!

    People that have NS won cant play on steam and vice versa.
    Everybody is prepared to play on steam and making in compatible with won will just split the community. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Most people seem to like WON over steam, i for one will stop playing NS when it gose steam only. And i can't be the only one, think it of it that way before you say "death to won". <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ...

    Death to WON!


    <!--QuoteBegin-Weltschmerz+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Weltschmerz)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Reading people's 'horror' stories about Steam, I find it sad that we have to go thru all over again, what many of us already went through with WON long ago, just to keep playing... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It's really not that hard for Steam to work now. I reformated earlier this month and all I had to do was download the small, <i>just</i> Steam, installer and login like I had always done before. Steam didn't have a problem with this and soon downloaded all of the content I needed very quickly (maxed out my connection). Then all that was required was to copy my game configs, favourites and scripts over and I was ready to go.

    If you're on 56k there is really no excuse not to try Steam either. You can get the huge 700 MB installer on CD and download the small updates needed over night, like you might have done under WON for game updates. If your connection breaks (after 2 hours, perhaps) you will not lose anything you have downloaded either, it will safely be in the cache file.

    Which brings me onto custom content, which is fully supported under Steam. All you do is place the custom content in the same place you would put custom files under WON and Steam uses those instead of the ones in it's chache and this chache acts like a back-up incase you install a crappy model you will always have the original.

    All in all I like Steam, incase you haven't noticed <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
  • Dsty2001Dsty2001 Join Date: 2003-07-28 Member: 18511Members
    Steam runs smoothly for me, and alot better than WON ever did. I have a crappy machine to top it off. For those that haven't tried Steam lately, give it another chance. It has improved TONS since it's been released
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    edited January 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Flayra+Jan 30 2004, 12:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flayra @ Jan 30 2004, 12:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> We're going to try to support installing to your WON/HL directory in beta2 (even though the majority of servers are Steam, we'll support WON as long as it's alive). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    bah don't do that Flayra it will jsut split the community and cause more problems <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    like it or not the community is already split, there is no reason to not try to ease the slower part of the community into STEAM if it is practical, at some point they will have to switch or stop playing either way, so at that point, if they cant keep up, then that's just thier problem.

    <!--QuoteBegin-Eidolan @ Jan 30 2004+ 09:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Eidolan @ Jan 30 2004 @ 09:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    <!--QuoteBegin-Ichthys @ Jan 30 2004+ 12:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ichthys @ Jan 30 2004 @  12:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    I wouldn't do that!

    People that have NS won cant play on steam and vice versa.
    Everybody is prepared to play on steam and making in compatible with won will just split the community. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Most people seem to like WON over steam, i for one will stop playing NS when it gose steam only. And i can't be the only one, think it of it that way before you say "death to won". <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    to stop playing because you don't like steam, a replacement for won that is almost at the same level, is just petty. If you want to be petty, why should it be up to the rest of the comunity to stop you? at some point won is going away, whether you like it or not. You are perfectly capable of continuing to play, you are simply refusing to because you don't want too. Developers don't make games for people who don't want to play them, they make games for people who do want to play them.

    [edit] *grammer
  • phoenixbbsphoenixbbs Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13379Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Subnautica Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dsty2001+Jan 30 2004, 04:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dsty2001 @ Jan 30 2004, 04:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->For those that haven't tried Steam lately, give it another chance.  It has improved TONS since it's been released<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I did just that earlier in the week to play the new NS beta.

    Steam is, IMO, buggy, slow, bloated, and virtually unusable. Some Steam driven mods swelled to almost double their original size for no reason.

    My pings shot right up, my framerates dropped ALARMINGLY (to a slideshow at times), and starting a game under Steam was JUST TOO LONG-WINDED.

    ...I build PCs fairly regularly, so I tend to know when something is right or not :-}

    Some simple things in the Steam installer should have been resolved (like keeping existing screen settings) and it telling me the halflife font can`t be found.

    I deleted the f***in` thing within ~1 hour of installation, and fired off a letter to Valve to tell them exactly what I thought of it. I was forced to hard-reset at least 6 times within this period due to it locking up my entire system while connecting to a server or simply checking settings in the options dialogue. My system is 100% stable under WON.

    Back to All-Seeing-Eye for me, and if HL2 is Steam only, they can count it as a sale lost.
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