Aa Pilot Arrested
<div class="IPBDescription">What's the world's opinion?</div> I hope this won't get into something like from the Discussion Boards, so I'll post this here.
Check this out at <a href='http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/01/14/finger.gesture.reut/index.html' target='_blank'>Cnn</a>.
I'd just like to know if this is being ignored by the US government and media. Like, even in the world it would be intresting to know. Also, do you think this is correct?
Check this out at <a href='http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/01/14/finger.gesture.reut/index.html' target='_blank'>Cnn</a>.
I'd just like to know if this is being ignored by the US government and media. Like, even in the world it would be intresting to know. Also, do you think this is correct?
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I personally don't like this dumb idea of the US to collect all fingerprints of every who comes in.
why? simply because if americans can do it, why shouldnt the rest of us.
I personally don't like this dumb idea of the US to collect all fingerprints of every who comes in. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Its not the US he was arrested in Brazil. Either way he deserves it.
So you would rather run through the airport check-in 2 minutes faster than help your countries defence program against terrorists? I think that guy deserves what he got. If a brazilian tried to evade immigration in the US, or any other country, and swore at the immigration officers, I think they would get locked up also.
When the news came out a few weeks ago about the US now photing and fingerprinting people who come into the country, my immediate reaction was "WTH, we didn't do that already!??". Seems as silly as selling knives at airports to me...
the factor that the brazilian gov is ONLY DOING IT TO US CITIZENS IS BS.
I meen look, what the brazilian gov did was petty and silly, what he did was petty and silly. They both made stupid mistakes.
Now, if they hold him for anything other then disrespecting/interfering with police, then it gets just wrong.
I meen look, what the brazilian gov did was petty and silly, what he did was petty and silly. They both made stupid mistakes. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
So if the US does it it's not stupid? Oh, ofcourse not.. I forgot. God bless America.
as for the finger guy: keep fightin' the power. raise that middle flag. just because it's law doesn't mean it isn't a hassle. he was just expressing himself.
I DO think it is wrong for them to specificly target americans with a childish tactic b/c they don't like something our government is doing.
Look, the current law (as far as I know) in the US is that all non US citizens must be fingerprinted and photed.
In Brazil ONLY US citizens have to be fingerprinted and photoed (acording to this article), and this was done in retaliation to the US Policy.
I believe in screwing every one over equaly, don't discriminate <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
If the Brazilian Govn't decided to do something that was flat out saying "We don't like your policy, so have a trade embargo/we wont let your citizens in/we will not alow our citizens to go to your country".
Instead they just intute a policy that seems to be designed at **** off the poor smoes who wana go visit their country (ie they targeted people not the govn't)
oh, and try reading the quote you make, and don't bring in the stupid "Oh americans are all stupid, and popmus"
I am honestly getting sick and tired of all these people who think its fun and cool to bach on the US (Trust me, I can find pleanty of things to mock your country for, I just don't b/c I am not like that)
/me grumbles
ok, that came out harsher then I wanted it to, whups <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Incorrect. The current law gives 25 exempt nations from which travelers do not have to be fingerprinted and photographed, most of them European industrialized nations.
Brazil is not singling out the US, in fact they have simply established a policy that reciprocity is in effect for immigration laws. Basically, what that means is that anything another nation does to their citizens, they will do to that nation's citizens. If the British enacted a policy where all Brazilians would have to drop their pants and proclaim their love for the queen, the Brazilians would enact that same policy for all visiting British. The fact that the US is the only country with this kind of immigration requirement is the only reason the US seems to be singled out.
Anyone see the irony in this because South America is like a resort for WWII War Criminals. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
where did ANY one bring up nazis?
@Gadzuko
Ahhh, ty for clearing that up.
It is still sorta childish, it still seems like it is obviously aimed at this specific us law (especialy if it was created after said law)
I also didn't know about the exempt countries, so now I go on to bash the us <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
As I said, before screw over every one equaly <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
and as for giving some one the bird being grounds ofr jail time...
it is sorta here also.
Remember, you have freedome of speach GENERALY.
You can't mouth off to a judge (in court)
You CAN'T Hastle cops doing their jobs (hehe, my bro got tossed in over night for doing that when drunk, silly bugger)
Personaly I think fliping them the birs was silly and chilish
I also think arresting him was the wrong thing to do (niamly b/c its just gona get alot of Americans **** at them)
erm.. hell yes...
the political system is a shambles... fight the power...
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What's childish is what America gets away with just because it's America.
What's childish is that American "patriotism" has been equated with blindly not questioning what a greedy child is doing to the world for his own profit [he's acquired 30% of the entire world's supply of crude oil and natural gas in the name of "Iraqi freedom" for almost exclussive exploitation by American companies without having to spend a penny of his own and he's supposedly "not" going to get anything out of it, like, say, a massive retirement fund after he retires from politics since it would look bad for him to accept the money right now?].
What's childish is nobody questioning the media's continued tendency to focus its "important" attention on such matters as Tom Cruise's sex life, despite many such organizations admitting just after the Twin Towers went down that they were blinding the American public to real world matters in doing so.
What's childish is nobody questioning the fact that CNN was accused of quietly having in its employ four CIA-trained experts in psychological manipulation.
What's childish is that nobody remembers who was originally accused of orchestrating the downfall of the Twin Towers because the American president and all the president's men had been naming Iraq as "the next target" since the day they went down.
What's childish is that nobody gives a God damn whether Osama is captured or not, even though he supposedly actually orchestrated an actual attack on actual American soil, while everyone's obsessing about Hussein, even though it's been admitted by even the president himself that Hussein didn't have the means or plans to do any such thing.
What's childish is that nobody stands against "free speech zones" [see the word, "Freedom" in my sig for reference].
What's childish is that Bush is allowed to sell America's national forests to the highest bidders with an excuse as dumb as "we need to save them by cutting them down" [what have the forests been doing to keep themselves in check for millions of years that's now going to be completely thrown out the window because us measly humans are so deadly afraid of any kind of natural balance whatsoever?].
What's childish is that nobody cares that nobody is allowed to speak out against Bush without being labeled as a "potential terrorist" [reference: "Freedom" again] by the so-called "secret service" or that nobody questions when a dip-stick from that very organization says that "free speech zones" are for the protestors' "safety".
What's childish is that anyone could think that the great American concept of "democracy" has anything to do with a "<a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=republic' target='_blank'>republican</a>'s" ideology [note: "a political order in which the supreme power lies in <b>a body</b> {as in, "not all citizens have any such right, but only a select few"} of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them"] and thus applaud or vote for any "republican" whosoever.
I applaud Brazil for standing up to the bully in the sandbox. Now, if only the rest of the world would take up arms and do the same thing, something good might come of it.
Burn the pilot, let the rest of the crew go unless they did the same. If America's in its rights to do all of what I just listed above, Brazil has every right to get **** off.
you ever tell a policeman to ****-off and get away with it in the states? cant do that sorta thing...
Wow, people are childish. Just because you disagree with American policy (or any policy) doesn't give you free liscense to conduct yourself in a childish way. (Which I suppose the pilot was as well)
There is nothing wrong with fingerprinting, and if Brazil wants to institute a real system, they are certainly allowed to do so. Chances are they are simply throwing the current American fingerprints in some never-to-be-read-again file.
GG Bureaucrats. This is a good example of idiot government impeding on personal rights and using tax money to do it. I thinkedcuated Brazilians see right through it as merely a childish diplomatic move, too.
What's childish is that nobody questions the Supreme Court of America allowing petroleum companies to raise gasolene prices by fifteen cents, despite them now being in complete control of an extra <i><b>%30 of the entire world's supply of crude oil and natural gas</b></i> [and that's <b>in addition</b> to what America already controled] as well as Bush promising $76 <b>billion</b> in tax deductions for American citizens who purchase SUV's [widely known for excessive gas usage] <b>and</b> completely contrary to the law, which states that gas may not raise in price more than three cents at time.
What's childish is that nobody questions the Supreme Court of America allowing petroleum companies to raise gasolene prices by fifteen cents, despite them now being in complete control of an extra <i><b>%30 of the entire world's supply of crude oil and natural gas</b></i> [and that's <b>in addition</b> to what America already controled] as well as Bush promising $76 <b>billion</b> in tax deductions for American citizens who purchase SUV's [widely known for excessive gas usage] <b>and</b> completely contrary to the law, which states that gas may not raise in price more than three cents at time. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
and whats your point? Just because America does something that you label childish, that doesn't mean Brazil should follow it up with something childish too.
Sheesh, you'd think the forumers here have declared war on America...
Just a case of massive stupidity all around.