Mad Cow Disease
kida
Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13778Members
Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13778Members
<div class="IPBDescription">now in the U.S....</div> <a href='http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/12/25/mad.cow/index.html' target='_blank'>http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/12/25/mad.cow/index.html</a>
This is probably old news to most of you, but I see no thread in the forum
If this spreads like wildfire like it did in the UK and Canada (where I live), there will be a huge problem containing it, which means slaughtering thousands of cows (unaffected or affected); people will get hyped with fear over meat and some might even stop eating; the industry will be under a lot of strain, due to the stoppage of imports; the health of people will be affected; people travelling by air will have to step on disinfectant pads <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> .
Yes, it sucks.
What do you think will happen in the U.S if it spreads and cannot be contained?
This is probably old news to most of you, but I see no thread in the forum
If this spreads like wildfire like it did in the UK and Canada (where I live), there will be a huge problem containing it, which means slaughtering thousands of cows (unaffected or affected); people will get hyped with fear over meat and some might even stop eating; the industry will be under a lot of strain, due to the stoppage of imports; the health of people will be affected; people travelling by air will have to step on disinfectant pads <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> .
Yes, it sucks.
What do you think will happen in the U.S if it spreads and cannot be contained?
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Im lovin it
i'm lovin' it
And, yes, I absolutely am loving it. My dad decided that we're now on a strict diet of everything but meat. Good thing I like fish and chicken anyway.
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If McDonalds would go out of business, wouldn't be much of a loss to the world. Slowly I've been starting hate their hamburgers.
Last time I ate there, that over greasy piece of crap they call hamburger almost made me puke. I kept my stomach for the next three hours. Now I rather get a packet of sausages and eat them cold. Or catch a rat from the street and eat that raw; better and healthier <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
I would care less if they dissapear :\
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It's pretty unlikely to spread like wildfire, as it did in the UK, as that was almost 20 years ago when no one tested for MC, no one knew how it spread, and no one knew which cows had it and which didn't. The world's beef industries have learned alot in the past few decades, and from what I've gleaned from Google News, the odds of it spreading unchecked in the US is next to nil. Also, American eating habits make it far less likely for humans to get sick as well, as we're generally not fond of eating cow brains and such things which can be infected, and because it's illegal (not impossible, but illegal) to re-feed cows to other cows here. Basically, If this is still an issue in the news next week I'll be pretty surprised, but any of you can feel free to come rub my face in it if I was wrong. After all, I love doing it to you. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Sources: <a href='http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/1226madcow26.html' target='_blank'>http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/n...26madcow26.html</a>
I have no idea what you're talking about then. But saying things like 'Americans seem to think everything is a terrorist attack now-days' is a generalization, just like me saying 'all Canadians are beer swilling hockey fans'. Neither is a true statement, and usually just ticks off people who do not fall under the umbrella of your generalization.
Hell, I should actually say stupid Americans.
BASICALLY ALL AMERICANS! Haaaaahhhh! Ahem. Sorry.
Let's get back on topic with some actual thoughts on this matter shall we, instead of pulling a bunch of crap out of our Celine Deions? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Yeah, most likely we'll forget in a week, but the damage has basically already been done to the US beef industry.
<a href='http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/News/Nation/EC4FBD13E1EFFF8C86256E07000B61EC?OpenDocument&Headline=Report+of+the+illness+shakes+beef+industry%3B+fast+food+stocks' target='_blank'>http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stor...ast+food+stocks</a>
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Meanwhile, restaurant stocks dropped and the beef industry braced for what could be losses of billions of dollars as its three largest customers - Japan, South Korea and Mexico - halted imports. Those three countries account for 89 percent of U.S. beef exports this year.
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Most news reports I've heard on tv or read in the paper are predicting a multi-billion dollar loss for the beef industry as Japan, South Korea, and Mexico are skittish about importing beef from countries where Mad Cow disease has appeared. How long their respecitive "bans" on imports last is anyones guess.
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ROFL
For example, turn on the T.V. read the newspapers and look for major articles on:
AIDS/HIV
SARS
the Flu
all major dieases that were huge and touted as possible pandemics (and still might be) but you'll see little to nothing about it.
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Most news reports I've heard on tv or read in the paper are predicting a multi-billion dollar loss for the beef industry as Japan, South Korea, and Mexico are skittish about importing beef from countries where Mad Cow disease has appeared. How long their respecitive "bans" on imports last is anyones guess. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What the article glosses over is that US beef exports make up less than 10% of beef sales - most are internal to the US. US internal sales are $98 billion a year, while exports are about $6 billion, mostly to Asia. Not to mention that the US is the only country that can provide Asia with the quantities it needs at the prices it expects. Canada/Europe are not popular there anymore due to their previous wide-spread outbreaks, although South America might meet the demand for a time (lord knows how they've avoided MC for so long, their livestock monitoring seems to be non-existent).
sources: <a href='http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/2003-12-24-beef_x.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/f...2-24-beef_x.htm</a>
It's pretty unlikely to spread like wildfire, as it did in the UK, as that was almost 20 years ago when no one tested for MC, no one knew how it spread, and no one knew which cows had it and which didn't. The world's beef industries have learned alot in the past few decades, and from what I've gleaned from Google News, the odds of it spreading unchecked in the US is next to nil. Also, American eating habits make it far less likely for humans to get sick as well, as we're generally not fond of eating cow brains and such things which can be infected, and because it's illegal (not impossible, but illegal) to re-feed cows to other cows here. Basically, If this is still an issue in the news next week I'll be pretty surprised, but any of you can feel free to come rub my face in it if I was wrong. After all, I love doing it to you. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Sources: <a href='http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/1226madcow26.html' target='_blank'>http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/n...26madcow26.html</a><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
couldn't have said it better. I don't think most people realize you have to actually eat the brains to catch Mad Cow. IMO, this whole MC thing is just another case of mass paranoia. Chances are, more people die each year from coconuts falling on their heads. Heh, better watch those palm trees <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->.
PS it's not illegal to eat cow brains. Just saw something on TV about how many indian stores still sold cow brains. Mmmm... tasty.
Mad Cow was from Canadarrrrrrrr.
YARRRRRRRRRR.
Like fish ? Say hello to our good friend DDT.
Like Vegetables ? Yay for biocides!!!!
Like Chicken ? You'll love the new 12 legged variety.
Meh, just accept the idea that nothing is what it seems and keep living life in an oblivious fashion.
In a country where Enron to Martha Stewart has shown questionable choices due to money, I doubt a billion dollar industry would be at ease with releasing information that would plummet their stock. Chances are they would just chaulk it up to an isolated case.
<a href='http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/goto/?getPage=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eupi%2Ecom%2Fview%2Ecfm%3FStoryID%3D20031223%2D103657%2D3424r&return=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edrudgereportarchives%2Ecom%2Fdsp%2Flinks%5Frecap%2Ehtm' target='_blank'>http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/goto/?...s%5Frecap%2Ehtm</a>
From the above article:
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"We're talking about billions of people" around the world who potentially have been exposed to U.S. beef, Lester Friedlander, a former USDA veterinarian who has been insisting mad cow is present in American herds for years, told UPI.
The USDA insisted the case is probably isolated and the US beef supply is safe. "I plan to serve beef for my Christmas dinner," Veneman said, "and we remain confident in the safety of our food supply."
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Granted, I think the actual threat is not even close to that as, say, driving, but that doesn't mean we should ignore something that could point to less obvious issues (ie. general treatment of our food sources: genetic modification, bovine growth hormone, infected feed etc). But I on the other side of the coin, I find it ironic that those who may worry about this also don't mind driving home after a few cocktails or smoking a few cigarettes a day.
12 legs isn't as much fun as VRE, which is basically in tons of chicken (especially that from KFC). Good old fashioned superbugs right in the food you like to eat.
And recently they've found the first case of MVRSA, so I say, GG abuse of antibiotics and how the meat industry treat their animals. GG I say.
I'm not overly surprised the odd case of BSE has popped up. It probably has to come from somewhere, and what spread it in Europe was the fact they used to feed ground up cows back to other cows. So I wouldn't be too surprised if there was some very low incidence rate among a normal population of cows.
<a href='http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59426-2004Jan6.html' target='_blank'>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...6-2004Jan6.html</a>
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DNA Tests Verfiy U.S. Mad Cow From Canada
By Mark Sherman
The Associated Press
Tuesday, January 6, 2004; 4:30 PM
Genetic testing confirms that the cow diagnosed with the first U.S. case of mad cow disease was born in Canada, agriculture officials said Tuesday.
The test results will allow investigators to intensify their search for the source of infection, most likely from contaminated feed, in Alberta, where the Holstein was born in 1997.
Agriculture Secretary Ann Veneman announced the mad cow diagnosis on Dec. 23, the first time the disease has been found in the United States since its discovery in Great Britain in the mid-1980s.
The DNA tests on the cow, on one of its offspring and on the semen from the cow's sire, as well as records that show the cow came from a dairy farm in Alberta, make "us confident in the accuracy of this traceback," said Dr. Ron DeHaven, the Agriculture Department's chief veterinarian.
Brian Evans, a Canadian agriculture official, said independent testing from a Canadian lab agreed.
Canadian officials had announced last May that a cow in Alberta had been diagnosed with the disease.
While no links have been found between the two cases, investigators now will focus on looking for common sources of feed, Evans said.
He added, "We have not got sufficient evidence to make any feed link between the two farms."
The U.S. Agriculture Department decided Monday to kill a herd of 450 calves in Sunnyside, Wash., because it included one that was born to the Holstein.
The U.S. Agriculture Department decided Monday to kill a herd of 450 calves in Sunnyside, Wash., because it included one that was born to the Holstein.
Officials said that particular calf was not tagged and could not be identified, necessitating the mass killing. They have said they can't rule out the possibility that mad cow disease can be transmitted from mother to calf.
Both federal and state officials have declined to disclose how the dead calves will be disposed of but have said the meat from the animals will be kept out of the food supply. The calves also won't be rendered for animal feed or other products.
The calves range in age from 1 month to several months.
The herd is one of three under quarantine in Washington because of ties to the infected animal, a 661/27-year-old Holstein dairy cow that was shipped to the United States from Canada in 2001. The other herds include cows that may have come from the same Alberta farm. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
As for our fellow canadian and the terrorist statement, I know of no one that thinks this is a terrorist attack. You take too much stock in news reporting, buddy. Believe it or not, news agency trump up stories, making them seem more servere for the ratings. Its all about the Benjamins.
PROPAGANDA!!!
Don't listen to anything this man has to say!
He's trying to brainwash us Americans as a terrorist conspiracy!!!