Questions....
<div class="IPBDescription">I need answers to..</div> Just a few questions that have been anoyying me since birth...
1. Why are we here? What are we put here to do? What is the meaning of life?
A biggy but to me it means alot. I just cant seem to figure it out, some people will say breed, others will say to live a life that had meaning and enrichs the lives of others.
At the moment i just dont see the point in living tbh. We live we die nothing we does matters, we cant change anything or affect anything in this universe so whats the point?
2. Are we evoled? Nearly everyone i meets says yes we have come from monkeys into a being that can think and act on emotions or choose not to act as it sees fit..
Now to me, i say we have not evoled but de-evoled we came from monkeys correct? now monkeys hang around in trees do as they like, breed when they like basically lead thier own lives and do as they wish.
Then you come to us. Humans, We work 8 hours a day 7 days a week we eat at least an hour a day, go to the toliet for at least 30mins a day and sleep at least 8-10 hours a day. This takes up half the day and leaves under half the day for our own enjoyment to do as we wish, then we have breeding, humans have the most complicated rituals for breeding on the planet, why?
3. Science is it useless??? A question i have wondered about for a while.. well is it useless? Science brought us such things as electric, the car, we even put a man on the moon. Then you have "science" where we worked out the how heavy the earth was, the fact that the universe is 4X bigger then you thought it was, Isent the universe endless tho? and what does it matter how heavy the earth is?
Any answers would be nice....
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Its not so much a dissusion, but questions and answers hence why i choose off-topic. The answers may likley be disputed but not the questions.
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Im seeking the answer of an average joe, not someone that promotes thier life to god or science. Ive found the people here to be more a community then video game nuts (not everyone plays CS BadKarma and are fixated by ping and score).
1. Why are we here? What are we put here to do? What is the meaning of life?
A biggy but to me it means alot. I just cant seem to figure it out, some people will say breed, others will say to live a life that had meaning and enrichs the lives of others.
At the moment i just dont see the point in living tbh. We live we die nothing we does matters, we cant change anything or affect anything in this universe so whats the point?
2. Are we evoled? Nearly everyone i meets says yes we have come from monkeys into a being that can think and act on emotions or choose not to act as it sees fit..
Now to me, i say we have not evoled but de-evoled we came from monkeys correct? now monkeys hang around in trees do as they like, breed when they like basically lead thier own lives and do as they wish.
Then you come to us. Humans, We work 8 hours a day 7 days a week we eat at least an hour a day, go to the toliet for at least 30mins a day and sleep at least 8-10 hours a day. This takes up half the day and leaves under half the day for our own enjoyment to do as we wish, then we have breeding, humans have the most complicated rituals for breeding on the planet, why?
3. Science is it useless??? A question i have wondered about for a while.. well is it useless? Science brought us such things as electric, the car, we even put a man on the moon. Then you have "science" where we worked out the how heavy the earth was, the fact that the universe is 4X bigger then you thought it was, Isent the universe endless tho? and what does it matter how heavy the earth is?
Any answers would be nice....
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Its not so much a dissusion, but questions and answers hence why i choose off-topic. The answers may likley be disputed but not the questions.
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Im seeking the answer of an average joe, not someone that promotes thier life to god or science. Ive found the people here to be more a community then video game nuts (not everyone plays CS BadKarma and are fixated by ping and score).
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1. Why are we here? What are we put here to do? What is the meaning of life?
<span style='color:white'>To Play Natural Selection</span>
2. Are we evoled? Nearly everyone i meets says yes we have come from monkeys into a being that can think and act on emotions or choose not to act as it sees fit..
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Its time to Evolve again, into an Onos Maybe</span>
3. Science is it useless??? A question i have wondered about for a while.. well is it useless? Science brought us such things as electric, the car, we even put a man on the moon. Then you have "science" where we worked out the how heavy the earth was, the fact that the universe is 4X bigger then you thought it was, Isent the universe endless tho? and what does it matter how heavy the earth is?
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Science helps the TSA defeat the Kharaa</span>
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Jasp,
Puff, Puff, Give, Puff, Puff, Give
Your F-ing up the rotation
2) You're as evolved as you feel. Haw haw.
3) Science is a factual religion.
You may give me money.
1. Meaning of life, I have no clue and I've been wondering this myself too, sometimes. The future scares me to be honest, because if you think of what you'll achieve during your life is rather small when it comes to affecting anything at all. Think about it, in 80 years you don't exist. You can't think about anything anymore, you can't even think about your life before. You are just air, and that is what sometimes even gives me a teardrop in the eye when I think about it. You live your life, make money have a job, have a wife and a good life, then it's all over. And WHY did you have all that money, WHY did you have the job, WHY did you get married even though it doesn't matter at all because in the end you just fade away to world of nothing. Sounds selfish doesn't it? All you do is try to enjoy the short time you are here in the existence. Why is it that we do these things, noone knows, but I know I want to enjoy the short time I have ahead of me.. Have you ever thought to yourself "Im bored, I hope tomorrow comes soon so this boring day would be over"? Or have you thought "I hate how every day and week repeats itself"? Have you yet thought about the fact that every second you pass by doesn't come back to you. You get older every second and every second you become closer and closer to the time when your existence here is over. Now that's some thinking to be done eh, and it scares me sometimes to think about these things. A lot in fact. Meaning of life = LIVE IT!
2. Where do all the behavior and moods come from? Why do we think "He has a better suit than I do, I want a suit like that" or what makes us think "hmpf, I should be the boss in this workingplace, I work harder than any bigshot here"? Those and many others are what I think, the primitive habits and thoughts of the life when we lived in tribes and hunted for our food. The laws, the politics are the chains that keep us in.. how do you say it, in line? Because I bet all of you have seen rioting and/or anarchy happening somewhere in the world, right? Anarchy and rioting is what I think the origins of our primitive ways, the chains of laws and politics have been taken off and we go mad, we morph into primitive animals who act by instinct.
3. How have we survived for the aeons we've existed on this world <b>before</b> we had electricity, railroads, spacerockets? Yes, we DID survive before those times. How have the animals survived without having the moon visited or having their genes experimented with? I think the lyrics of Science by System of a down work the best here, because those are excactly my thoughts, to say short: Science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence, letting the reigns go to the unfolding Is faith. Making two possibilities a reality, predicting the future of things we all know, fighting off the diseased programming of centuries. Full lyrics <a href='http://www.systemofadownonline.com/lyrics/0210.htm' target='_blank'>Here</a>, doesn't matter what you think about them, but I think the same way as the lyrics implement.
God damn I wasted way too much of my short life into this, but meh I felt like writing. Hope this "clears" something even though it wasn't my full goal, which was just to express my opinions and thoughts about this time we have..
2. Are we evoled? Nearly everyone i meets says yes we have come from monkeys into a being that can think and act on emotions or choose not to act as it sees fit..
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1) We are here by chance. We are here to do what we already do. Life has the meaning that you give it. (I know, that was helpful, but it's accurate)
It is more useful to comtemplate what you want to do with your life and what you want to be. You will probably find the answer to your firsts question along the way.
2) You don't see the whole picture (which isn't easy to do, the issue is complicated). You honestly don't have to worry about it either; while you may feel the effects of evolution from millions of years past (ie you're not a monkey), nothing will change significantly in your lifetime. You aren't missing anything if you don't learn about evolution. It's just like it won't effect your life either way if you thought the sun revolved around the earth, so long as to other <i>people</i> gave you flak about it (and there's it the people who are being difficult, not the thought).
Now that I've said it doesn't matter, I'll also say that it still might matter to you. It does for me. It doesn't have to, but it does. If this is the case, I'd suggest going about getting your facts straight. At some point in college, take a zoology course or a decently advanced bio course, and that should handle it for you.
3) Of course it isn't. But, what you probably actually want to know is more about whether we are happier now than we were before we had all this stuff. For this one, I'd go study a little Buddhism. What I hope you would get out of it is that material goods don't really make us happy. Still, science is more than just creating more expensive or fancy material goods.
Think about it you do things you want to do to become happy.
I feel better already; how about you?
As for evolution, if you've studied evolution in bio or something, you'll see that there's no such thing as de-evolving. Natural selection chooses the species or varients that are most fit for their environment. It doesn't concern how HAPPY you are, how BIG you are, or how a species survives, just how well you proliferate in your environment. And we have the most complicated rituals etc. because we have the biggest brains, meaning we have bigger imaginations and can think on a scale far surpassing anything that our ancesteral "monkies" could. Which just means more complicated procedures for having sex. wheeeee
Is science useless? Science and our ability to learn about it just another trait that makes us more <i>fit</i> for our environment, aka earth. Is it neccessary? I don't know, is it neccessary that we exist at all? Probably not. Maybe so. Maybe we're suppose to inherit the universe once we all get smart enough. Go go optimism and wild imaginations!
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<span style='color:white'>Live it. Life is a blessing bestowed upon us by God, and the most fulfilling life possible is one including a personal relationship with God. See John 3:16 (What he has done.), Romans 1-5(Why we need it, and what it does for us), and Matthew 28:19-20(The Great Commission, our newest purpose: to reach other people).</span>
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We are more highly evolved than monkeys surely. However, I believe it was that we have a common ancestor, not that we came directly from them.
Certainly, things change and evolve over time, including ideas and societies, but that does not mean there is no absolute truth, something that is inherantly true wherever. There is an absolute best way to live life, absolute worst, and certainly things in the middle. Everything is polarized in this fashon, and it is up to us to choose with our free will which pole we will align ourselves with. I try and follow St. Paul's advice in Philipians 4:8,</span> 8 Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things.
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<span style='color:white'> Science brings answers as to the intracacies of God's creation. It cannot bring as much happiness, meaning, or greater purpose as can be had doing fulfilling work for mankind, unless the study of different natural phenominon are means to that end.</span>
That's my take on this rock. Served me more than well.
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There are higher goals than happiness.
Besides, hedonism and the greatest happiness principle (the best choice is the one that maximizes the total happiness of everyone) has disturbing consequences.
lol =P
the pop-up quiz at <a href='http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~pexter' target='_blank'>my old website</a> asks what the meaning of life is. no one goes to my old website so there isn't a concrete answer yet...
choices:
LOVE - someone exists to complete you
GOD - we were put here for a reason
SEX - honestly, what could feel any better?
CASH - can't buy happiness? who're they kidding?
ZEN - live life because it's there
N/A - since when does life have meaning?
I should probably replace 'sex' with 'family' or something =P
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AHAHAAHHAHAHHAHAHHHAAHAHA
That was great...
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AHAHAAHHAHAHHAHAHHHAAHAHA
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If you're gonna post something as stupid as that in a topic like this, it's better that you don't post. You can post your own thread with your own dumb jokes if you're that desperate for attention.
Agah, I'm gonna get a bit firey here, but whatever I say, <i>no offense</i> actually implied legionnaire, it's just my view on things <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->.
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Live it. Life is a blessing bestowed upon us by God, and the most fulfilling life possible is one including a personal relationship with God. See John 3:16 (What he has done.), Romans 1-5(Why we need it, and what it does for us), and Matthew 28:19-20(The Great Commission, our newest purpose: to reach other people).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What if Jasp doesn't believe in god? You can't assume that everyone here believes in god as you do, and therefore posting quotes like this is being incredibly presumptious. Either that or your purpose is to convince others that god or the belief in god is correct, which some people really don't want to hear.
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We are more highly evolved than monkeys surely. However, I believe it was that we have a common ancestor, not that we came directly from them.
Certainly, things change and evolve over time, including ideas and societies, but that does not mean there is no absolute truth, something that is inherantly true wherever. There is an absolute best way to live life, absolute worst, and certainly things in the middle. Everything is polarized in this fashon, and it is up to us to choose with our free will which pole we will align ourselves with. I try and follow St. Paul's advice in Philipians 4:8, 8 Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things.
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good advice <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->.
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Science brings answers as to the intracacies of God's creation. It cannot bring as much happiness, meaning, or greater purpose as can be had doing fulfilling work for mankind, unless the study of different natural phenominon are means to that end.
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Some people are very happy discovering how the world works, even theoretical stuff that couldn't possibly be used to do "fulfilling work for mankind." It's not like they just press a button and science comes out, they work incredibly hard to achieve their results. Personally, I'd much rather stare at lab rats all day then sowing seeds all day.
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If you're gonna post something as stupid as that in a topic like this, it's better that you don't post. You can post your own thread with your own dumb jokes if you're that desperate for attention.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's a funny joke. No need to flame.
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No offense taken. But see things from my perspective for a second.
I've commited what short life I've lived to at least trying to follow God's plan for my life. I've gone on missions trips, counsuled friends, ministered to the homeless, shared my faith with my friends, and watched real, powerful change come about as a result of God working in the lives of my friends, family, and total strangers, not to mention myself. I don't care if he believes in God or not, I can bear witness to His actuality. God has changed my life for the better in more ways than I can count.
How galactically selfish would I be not to at least try and pass that on, to tell others what He's done for me?
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No offense taken. But see things from my perspective for a second.
I've commited what short life I've lived to at least trying to follow God's plan for my life. I've gone on missions trips, counsuled friends, ministered to the homeless, shared my faith with my friends, and watched real, powerful change come about as a result of God working in the lives of my friends, family, and total strangers, not to mention myself. I don't care if he believes in God or not, I can bear witness to His actuality. God has changed my life for the better in more ways than I can count.
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I understand how you feel, if I had the secret to happiness (so to speak), I'd share it with everyone I know, even those who refuse to believe it. On internet forums tho, things like that are better done privately, because there's people who disagree with you (ie me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->) and wouldn't hesitate to speak out.