I Hate Christmas
esuna
Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">Seriously....</div> Sorry for this rant, i guarentee i will end up getting flamed for it, but i just want it off my chest.
I hate Christmas. Seriously.
First of all, i'm not religious at all, so that rules out any involvement i may have with the holiday on it's "true" meaning. I don't mean to spark a religious discussion here at all, this isn't the place, this is just a fact.
If i could just say "Sorry, i don't believe in the meaning of Christmas, so i won't be buying you presents this year", i'd be happy. But no. It makes me feel too sodding bad. I feel because other people are buying me presents, i have to buy them something. I hate it, it's so forced. I don't have a clue what to buy my parents, they are the WORST people to buy anything for. So i never end up getting them anything that they want or will find useful. So essentially, i've just wasted my money on something they'll throw in the cupboard and will never see the light of day again.
I really can't stand being forced to buy people crap. I'm not a skinflint, i am actually a generous person when i have the money to spare, but i just don't see <b>why</b> i should buy people things for no reason i believe in at all. Let's run through my list of stuff i have chosen for people.
My dad: Golf accessories. He plays about 3 times a week so no problem there this year.
My mum: No idea. Seriously. None.
My brother: Not a clue, he has virtually everything he needs, and what he does need i couldn't possibly afford (At present, new furniture for his house, etc).
My nephew: Not a clue, i usually leave this up to my parents since i have no clue what 2 year olds want
My girlfriend: Some rare Nightmare Before Christmas collectables, View Askew collectables, a song i wrote and am about to record for her, not sure what else.
Barring my girlfriend, none of this is of any real value, it'll just result in the usual tense "Oh, great... thanks" reply that everyone gives at Christmas for unwanted crap. I'm actually trying to give my girlfriend something that money can't buy. But anyway, moving onto my next point.
"The season of goodwill"
Shut up, i will staple your forhead to a car for bringing this up to me. People act like arseholes and jerks all year round, what makes this day any different. Someone who is being a total moron might stop and be nice for a day, but it's fake. It's forced. I prefer people to be honest than just lie straight out to your face. If you act like a moron on any other day, why not act like a moron on December 25th, it would make everyone feel better not to be lied to.
But anyway, that's the end of my nonsense ramblings.
*Dons flameproof overalls*
*EDIT: Can anyone give me a <b>valid</b> reason as to why i should celebrate Christmas (Read: buy presents) other than through obligation or guilt. Remember though, i've already stated i'm not religious, and that's not going to change any time soon.
I hate Christmas. Seriously.
First of all, i'm not religious at all, so that rules out any involvement i may have with the holiday on it's "true" meaning. I don't mean to spark a religious discussion here at all, this isn't the place, this is just a fact.
If i could just say "Sorry, i don't believe in the meaning of Christmas, so i won't be buying you presents this year", i'd be happy. But no. It makes me feel too sodding bad. I feel because other people are buying me presents, i have to buy them something. I hate it, it's so forced. I don't have a clue what to buy my parents, they are the WORST people to buy anything for. So i never end up getting them anything that they want or will find useful. So essentially, i've just wasted my money on something they'll throw in the cupboard and will never see the light of day again.
I really can't stand being forced to buy people crap. I'm not a skinflint, i am actually a generous person when i have the money to spare, but i just don't see <b>why</b> i should buy people things for no reason i believe in at all. Let's run through my list of stuff i have chosen for people.
My dad: Golf accessories. He plays about 3 times a week so no problem there this year.
My mum: No idea. Seriously. None.
My brother: Not a clue, he has virtually everything he needs, and what he does need i couldn't possibly afford (At present, new furniture for his house, etc).
My nephew: Not a clue, i usually leave this up to my parents since i have no clue what 2 year olds want
My girlfriend: Some rare Nightmare Before Christmas collectables, View Askew collectables, a song i wrote and am about to record for her, not sure what else.
Barring my girlfriend, none of this is of any real value, it'll just result in the usual tense "Oh, great... thanks" reply that everyone gives at Christmas for unwanted crap. I'm actually trying to give my girlfriend something that money can't buy. But anyway, moving onto my next point.
"The season of goodwill"
Shut up, i will staple your forhead to a car for bringing this up to me. People act like arseholes and jerks all year round, what makes this day any different. Someone who is being a total moron might stop and be nice for a day, but it's fake. It's forced. I prefer people to be honest than just lie straight out to your face. If you act like a moron on any other day, why not act like a moron on December 25th, it would make everyone feel better not to be lied to.
But anyway, that's the end of my nonsense ramblings.
*Dons flameproof overalls*
*EDIT: Can anyone give me a <b>valid</b> reason as to why i should celebrate Christmas (Read: buy presents) other than through obligation or guilt. Remember though, i've already stated i'm not religious, and that's not going to change any time soon.
Comments
It sounds to me like you just don't "get it". Which makes you part of like 45% of the population.
Meh.
At least he hopes he doesn't - Rob6264</span>
Otherwise, I pretty much agree.
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Christmas for me is, beyond the Christian implications of celebrating the coming of Jesus, also a time when I just kick back and enjoy being around my family. Try and focus on that, if nothing else.
There. Lego said it better than I could.
Think about getting off of school and work to just chill, talk with family you haven't seen in a while, eat good food, and generally be happy as opposed to just grinding away as usual. Thinking ahead to my Christmas break, I'm going to be seeing a lot of girls, partying, and skiing, as well as the usual family stuff, so... y'know.
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in the very least besides people forcing the gift giving thing off on you, in general i know a lot of people who arnt as much of an a hole during this time of the year as when its not. So thats partialy a good thing. meh <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
There see if the marines and the kahraa can get along for a few days a year so can the rest of the world <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
BTW: I apologize for my earlier posting, i sorry if i offended anyone jewish out there. Its just the thing we do in my comunity(not ns like where i live) its kinda 1 big inside joke. i dont really have anything against them its just my friends jewish and we just mess with him, everyone does(small comunity, 15 kids in my class, 150 k-12)
esuna, I agree with you 100%. I'm not sure what's wrong either -- I don't want to blame the holiday, because it's a nice idea to have a holiday to make people feel special on... I think the reason we hate the giving end is because the people you give to are so blasé about it. There's nothing more wonderful than giving someone something and having them actually be incredibly psyched... "OMG wow you read my mind, you're the sweetest (son/boyfriend/whatever) ever, I've wanted this for years, yada yada yada!!" but 9 out of 10 times it's like "oh, thanks, you shouldn't have, *flaccid hug*"
Being that that's the usual reaction, it really IS a waste of time and money... problem is we're all just so spoiled that we have nothing to get excited over anymore... that's why I think christmas gifts should be reserved for kids... nothing beats an excited kid when he gets the latest video game system/toy/whatever... though 3/4 of THOSE times even the toy/game/whatever ends up breaking/sucking...
my mom's the best. she shows no sign ever of what she wants, she's never enthusiastic about anything I give her/do for her, and she pitches a huge fit when she thinks I don't try hard enough.
yep, x-mas sux alright. I should give MYSELF the gift of moving far away from my entire family. =P
I however get to blow of buying every one presants this year b/c I AM FRIKEN BROKE, I HAVE NO MONEY!!!
My moms main gift to me this year is $$ so I can pay my rent whist I find a better friken job (side note, I might have one now, pls let it be so)
So this year, every one gets cookies exept (hopefuly) My GF who I wana find something nice for (ie, go ussed books store and pick up a case load, and hope a few are good).
And yah, there is the realy crapy one that normaly EVERY one in my family is friggen imposible to shop for, exept I actualy figgured out a gift for my mom this year, and I don't have the friken money for it. we friken whoo
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I honestly generaly don't mind the time that much. I get to see people I normaly wouldn't (gona see my cusins this year, <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->), I get time off from school (well, work now), and I get some cool stuff and I USUALY manage to get one realy good gifft for some one (yes, only one I suck at getting people good stuf ;()
It was only fun when I was like 8-13 maybe even 14, but after that. Gah, it just got ridiculus *pardon the spelling*. Everything is so damn commercialized. And I rarely see anybody putting up as many lights as they used to. I only put up the Xmas tree because I HAD too. Every day is just the same ****, diff day, but holidays is just another day with a new name in it. **** holidays. Only thing they are good for are rest from school and work.
Back way back when, there would be gifts under my tree right now. Now they aren't there untli the last day. And the last xmas..there where only like...3-10 gifts. This year..I only see one. And that is some random crap in a box for my mom. Wont surprise me if there is nothing but dust underneath that tree. Which I dont care if there is or not. I know in my own house hold, there will be no xmas. Maybe when I have my own family..let me change that. Maybe when our generation of kids (15-20) get to have kids and families of their own...then maybe the spirit will come back.
AND WTH IS THIS CRAP ON FOX 11 RIGHT NOW?! This is the crap that kills xmas...**** **** hiphop/rap...they dont know how to sing. Lol
/ends rant
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lol
*watches Reno 911 <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->*
I only got my friend, Alex, a present. Which is a GenkiHat. Have no money for anyone else.
I love Christmas personally. I like giving people nice things, as when I was growing up things were pretty tight in the wallet dept and I never could. I don't much care about getting gifts, so I don't get very worked up about that aspect; it's more like the one month out of the year where I become a pleasant, decent person, like I've always wanted to be all the time (and failed time and again).
And I get to give to Toys for Tots, which makes you feel like a million dollars. When I was in the Marine Corps and actually worked on TFT, I was one of the guys that collected barrels and sorted toys and drove a truck. And on the 24th I got to give tiny poor little kids a nice brand new present. You felt just like Santa Claus, but for real, for a few hours.
Christmas gives you back your missing humanity, if you let it...
even though it's FORCED... everyone being NICE makes you feel nice, i hope.
if not, hey.. you're just different that way. sorry.
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! T-T
no snow in hellifornia -_-
i can see how jesus' birthday has become the most crapped-out holiday of the year..
i try to dwell on the happiness thing. works for me.
edit: mister e. i cried reading your post ;_;
honestly i can't see what's not to admire about you. i think i'll give to the penny-arcade toy drive.
And that's how Christmas became December 25th instead of Jesus' actual birthday, which has been long forgotten, but is estimated at sometime around Easter (..which is strange to me, and it's from the History Channel so I don't trust it...but whatever).
Well, aside from Birthdays (and other assorted holidays, such as Mothers Day) Christmas (despite it's wrongly based celebration) is the only time to give people gifts and not say stuff like, "Yea...here's a present...because your special or something..."
On that same sort of note, I enjoy Christmas if only for the following reasons:
1. There was a very nice foreign exchange student at my high school, to make a long story short, I didn't really, you know 'like' her like her, until Novemberish. So I bought her a stuffed animal for Christmas (among other people). Then we got to be decent friends until she went back to her home country.
...Although, technically that could make Christmas worse, since I haven't seen her in 6 months...but whatever <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->. I don't see it that way.
2. I get to give people stuff. Despite I mostly enjoy this only for my sister (since everyone else is kind of hard to shop for).
3. Lots of happy, yet greedy, kids. Except when they start crying/screaming...then they're annoying.
4. Being with family. Although, it's sortof close to Thanksgiving.
5. Not to sound greedy, but I don't mind getting electronics I can't afford myself.
Reasons to not like Christmas:
1. As me and a Latvian foreign exchange student (not the same as above...) agree, Christmas celebration/commercialization starts WAY to early. December 20th would be good....not November 20th.
2. All those people ringing bells asking for my quarters. Do I look rich? I mean come on. What do you want me to pay for my laundry with?
3. Rock/Rap and other mocking Christmas songs. Despite it's not the right date of Christ's birth, it should still be respected as if it was such...because we don't know the right one.
4. Nickolodean and it's mockery of Christmas with its 'Nickmas'...way to mock 750 million peoples' Messiah by replacing Christ with Nick...b*****d network...
5. The fact there are NO good versions of We Three Kings...my favorite (and really only good) Christmas song.
6. The lack of attention given to Hanukkah, Ramadan (despite it's a different month), Kwanza (despite it's an african based holiday, and it's actually religion based as far as I know)...and the Bhuddist and other religions I can't remember. Also as long as networks don't start retarded crap like TechTV's Nondenominational holiday season celebration. That's just dumb.
7. The slightly annoying facade people put on during the holidays. Although, it is nice to see more people get along. Reminds me of WW1 when the germans and french got out a soccerball and started playing...and then a commander came out and told them to go back to the trenches.
Well, Christmas is still nice. I wouldn't mind if someone found out the actual birthday of Jesus and then the holiday was switched. That'd make more sense. At least now it can celebrated as a break from work, a joining and celebration of family and/or friends, and A time for reflection on your religion and other stuff, but I'm sick of writing (and this is a run on sentance now).
[edit] oh yea, that comic becomes national NS Christmas propaganda from now on. [edit]
Bleh.. bs, all bs.
i use too many ...'s <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
UltimaGecko: It was the winter solstice, not a harvest festival. Easy mistake to make, I know. Both easter and Christmas are based (they happen at the same time of year) on Pagan festivals. I think it was when the Roman Empire went Christian, they abolished the pagan oneas and replaced them with Christian ones. I fail to see, however, how that detracts from thier meaning or importance. Is my birthday less meaningful just because I share it with thousands of other people?
Esuna, if you don't want to give presents just say, "I don't agree with the whole christmas present thing. Do not feel that you have to get me anythig this year because I will not be returning the favour." Just make sure you say it early enough, before they get you the present.
It'd be like you celebrating your birthday on the 15th of March (...you know, with the millions of other people with birthdays on the 15th of March). Except, your birthday isn't really in March...it's say, in October.
Since no one really knows when his birthday really was, I supposed December 25th is better then nothing <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> . On a slightly related note, who celebrates St. Nick day? It's like...the 5th or something. Reminds me of the German immersion school, where a guy dressed all pope like would come down the center of the gym...I don't remember much besides that though. I was like 5.
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Yes
Anyways. To the person who said you live in "hellifornia" I live in cali too. There is snow...go up to Snow Summit, Big Bear, Mt. High, Mammoth for snow <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
I'm going snowboarding sometime soon anyways. I want a NS sticker for my K2 <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Do what I do, ask your parents what they want and if they refuse to tell you give 'em cash in an inconspicous looking brown envelope with merry christmas scribbled on one side <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Chrrrristmas time is here by golly
Disapproval would be folly.
Deck the halls with hunks of holly.
Fill the cup and don't say when.
Kill the turkeys, ducks and chickens.
Mix the punch, drag out the dickens.
Even though the prospect sickens
Brother, here we go again.
On Christmas day you can't get sore.
Your fellow man you must adore.
There's time to rob him all the more
The other three hundred and-a-six-a-ty-a-four.
Reeeelations sparing no expense'll
Send some useless old utensil
Or a matching pen and pencil!
<sarcasm>"Just the thing I need... how nice."</sarcasm>
It doesn't matter how sincere it is,
Nor how heartfelt the spirit.
Sentiment will not endear it.
What's important is: The Price.
Hark, the Herald Tribune sings
Advertising wondrous things!
God rest ye merry merchants
May he make the yuletide <b>pay</b>!
Aaangels we have heard on high
Teell us to go out and <b>buy</b>
So...
Let the mocking sleigh bells jingle.
Hail our dear old friend, Chris Kringle
Driving his reindeer across of the sky...
...don't stand underneath when they
fly
by.
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<i>*"Entire family" is all my family except aunts, uncles, cousins and nieces. We don't speak to them, really.</i>
It's a weird world after all.
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But then...if there's one thing I like about Christmas....it's the festivities! Mmmm.....no....wait....must resist.....temptation....to....eat.....must...lose....weight....
I know that a majority of the population is christian, but I can't understand why christmas is bigger than most other holidays.
I love Christmas personally. I like giving people nice things, as when I was growing up things were pretty tight in the wallet dept and I never could. I don't much care about getting gifts, so I don't get very worked up about that aspect; it's more like the one month out of the year where I become a pleasant, decent person, like I've always wanted to be all the time (and failed time and again).
And I get to give to Toys for Tots, which makes you feel like a million dollars. When I was in the Marine Corps and actually worked on TFT, I was one of the guys that collected barrels and sorted toys and drove a truck. And on the 24th I got to give tiny poor little kids a nice brand new present. You felt just like Santa Claus, but for real, for a few hours.
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thats the spirit mate!
ok, so yeah.. its like when i was growing up i wasnt spoilt.. i was tuahgt to respect w/e i was given etc.. and this is the first year.. i will be able to shoe my parents/family how much they mean to me through gifts... like.. i have always been broke b4..
this year i have managed to get my own tree... my own decs.. everything.. and im gonna hopefully change my fiancee's opinion on xmas.. and make it a good thing for her <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
so yeah!
xmas hats for all...
i have noticed a large lack of spirit this year where i live... nobody smiles.. i think everyone i walk past on my way to work.. i at least try to smile at.. if they smile back i say good morning and merry xmas... but so many people are so dang unfriendly