(mcon) Hydrogen Pistol

Owen1Owen1 Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15457Members
<div class="IPBDescription">not for ns, just want your opinions</div> ok, this here is a hydrogen assisted power output system. the gun draws condensation (water) from the atmosphere. it then uses the hyrogen power theory (platinum and poladium catalysts) to produce electrical energy. this energy is then passed through element X (X indicates an unknown element that would concentrate energy to a lethal physical form). the energy is then ready to use as extremly hot pure energy ammunition that requires coolant rod.

the gun itself isnt allowed to be modelled because i gave the rights to the last-life mod team, but feel free to give your views. nothing to scientific please, thats the only thing i ever learnt in chemistry
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  • CoolCookieCooksCoolCookieCooks Pretty Girl Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16446Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    i felt like colouring it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • StrabismoStrabismo Join Date: 2003-10-27 Member: 22052Members
    edited November 2003
    Yay! the zero emission pistol! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I know you specified nothing scientific, but hydrogen energy is by converting hydrogen and oxygen into water, not the inverse :S Free energy making doest not exists <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    But is still a good idea, a electric gun <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Owen1Owen1 Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15457Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Strabismo+Nov 29 2003, 09:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Strabismo @ Nov 29 2003, 09:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yay! the zero emission pistol! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I know you specified nothing scientific, but hydrogen energy is by converting hydrogen and oxygen into water, not the inverse :S Free energy making doest not exists <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    But is still a good idea, a electric gun <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    no... it does exist... the hydrogen powered car is available for 2 billion us dollars. it cant be released freely because of the economy crisis it would cause (no need for fuel = oil companies going bust)

    but the emmisions are there... only its not harmful, our very own oxygen...

    my theory is sound... well not really, the thing would imply to be its very own self sufficient power plant that defies the theory of of e=mc2, saying that the gun takes in enuff water per second to satisfy its need for energy output. impossible, water doesnt have much potential energy at an average of 23'c.
  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    Nice Concept!

    P.S. Whoo! I started an [Mcon] phrase now! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    ..I think.
  • StrabismoStrabismo Join Date: 2003-10-27 Member: 22052Members
    edited November 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--|Owen|+Nov 29 2003, 05:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (|Owen| @ Nov 29 2003, 05:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Strabismo+Nov 29 2003, 09:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Strabismo @ Nov 29 2003, 09:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yay! the zero emission pistol!  <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I know you specified nothing scientific, but hydrogen energy is by converting hydrogen and oxygen into water, not the inverse :S Free energy making doest not exists  <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    But is still a good idea, a electric gun  <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    no... it does exist... the hydrogen powered car is available for 2 billion us dollars. it cant be released freely because of the economy crisis it would cause (no need for fuel = oil companies going bust)

    but the emmisions are there... only its not harmful, our very own oxygen...

    my theory is sound... well not really, the thing would imply to be its very own self sufficient power plant that defies the theory of of e=mc2, saying that the gun takes in enuff water per second to satisfy its need for energy output. impossible, water doesnt have much potential energy at an average of 23'c. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The hydrogen car's emission is steam, not oxygen. it's input is hydrogen and oxygen. The energy is released by creating water with the hydrogen and oxygen.
    To separate water's hydrogen and oxygen, you have to electrolyze it, wich takes energy. The electrolysis adds an electron to each new water molecules. This electron is also libreated during the revert process. This is what creates electricity for hydrogen powered cars.

    That means that separated hydrogen and oxygen are a kind of accumulated energy and you can liberate this energy in an electrical form, like hydrogen powereed cars do, or thermal form, by burning the hydrogen. Both reactions makes water steam.

    So hydrogen powered cars needs to be reloaded, by pluging it on a electric power source (for the electrolysis so it creates hydrogen and oxygen with water, that means you can recycle the water the car produced) or by filling the car's hydrogen tank (oxygen can be taken directly from the air) just like it was using batteries but you can put way more energy in a given volume with hydrogen than with a normal battery.

    Free energy doesn't exists. That means your gun needs to be reloaded with a external power source or it's magazines could be replaced by hydrogen tanks. But you can take in consideration that hydrogen have a very big energy potential. That means your gun doesn't needs to be reloaded very frequently
  • BijiyBijiy Fantastic Damage Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23697Members
  • TheRealVashTheRealVash Join Date: 2003-05-21 Member: 16547Members
    Nice colorization.
  • Owen1Owen1 Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15457Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Strabismo+Nov 30 2003, 03:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Strabismo @ Nov 30 2003, 03:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--|Owen|+Nov 29 2003, 05:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (|Owen| @ Nov 29 2003, 05:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Strabismo+Nov 29 2003, 09:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Strabismo @ Nov 29 2003, 09:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yay! the zero emission pistol!  <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I know you specified nothing scientific, but hydrogen energy is by converting hydrogen and oxygen into water, not the inverse :S Free energy making doest not exists  <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    But is still a good idea, a electric gun  <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    no... it does exist... the hydrogen powered car is available for 2 billion us dollars. it cant be released freely because of the economy crisis it would cause (no need for fuel = oil companies going bust)

    but the emmisions are there... only its not harmful, our very own oxygen...

    my theory is sound... well not really, the thing would imply to be its very own self sufficient power plant that defies the theory of of e=mc2, saying that the gun takes in enuff water per second to satisfy its need for energy output. impossible, water doesnt have much potential energy at an average of 23'c. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The hydrogen car's emission is steam, not oxygen. it's input is hydrogen and oxygen. The energy is released by creating water with the hydrogen and oxygen.
    To separate water's hydrogen and oxygen, you have to electrolyze it, wich takes energy. The electrolysis adds an electron to each new water molecules. This electron is also libreated during the revert process. This is what creates electricity for hydrogen powered cars.

    That means that separated hydrogen and oxygen are a kind of accumulated energy and you can liberate this energy in an electrical form, like hydrogen powereed cars do, or thermal form, by burning the hydrogen. Both reactions makes water steam.

    So hydrogen powered cars needs to be reloaded, by pluging it on a electric power source (for the electrolysis so it creates hydrogen and oxygen with water, that means you can recycle the water the car produced) or by filling the car's hydrogen tank (oxygen can be taken directly from the air) just like it was using batteries but you can put way more energy in a given volume with hydrogen than with a normal battery.

    Free energy doesn't exists. That means your gun needs to be reloaded with a external power source or it's magazines could be replaced by hydrogen tanks. But you can take in consideration that hydrogen have a very big energy potential. That means your gun doesn't needs to be reloaded very frequently <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    lol...ok <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • BijiyBijiy Fantastic Damage Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23697Members
    It is after all, JUST A GAME...
  • Owen1Owen1 Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15457Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Bijiy+Nov 30 2003, 11:41 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bijiy @ Nov 30 2003, 11:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It is after all, JUST A GAME... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    hear here....

    btw bijiy, are u on the last-life team?
  • BijiyBijiy Fantastic Damage Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23697Members
    I've been asked to join, and I just might do that...
  • Owen1Owen1 Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15457Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Bijiy+Nov 30 2003, 11:48 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bijiy @ Nov 30 2003, 11:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've been asked to join, and I just might do that... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yea its gr8... BMRF vs USMC vs XEN vs BLACK OPS
  • BijiyBijiy Fantastic Damage Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23697Members
    Hmmm, I wonder how xen will work...
  • Owen1Owen1 Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15457Members
    edited November 2003
    alot like in the "swarm" mod. u choose what u wanna be at the begining of the game and get dropped in via those flyer things

    and i just noticed sumthing... strabismo, hydrogen and oxygen is water, so ur just rearranging my formula so the output is hot water, steam.

    now my theory seperates the oxygen from the hydrogen, (hydrogen = fuel | oxygen = waste)... the only waste will be oxygen and prob heat, light and sound energy
  • CoolCookieCooksCoolCookieCooks Pretty Girl Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16446Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    shush owen <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> i think thats the old version, in the new version of it, its based on kills, you start off as a headcrab or slave. if you chose headcrab, when u kill someone in a headshot you get to take over their body, and you are planted on their head, like in the game. if you chose slave you must kill 5 people before they can be: Pit drone, Hound eye. They must kill 10 people for: Shock Trooper, Alien Grunt, Controller. They must kill 15 for: Baby garg, Voltigore.
  • BijiyBijiy Fantastic Damage Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23697Members
    Sounds pretty well mapped out...
  • Owen1Owen1 Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15457Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--coolcookiecooks+Nov 30 2003, 12:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coolcookiecooks @ Nov 30 2003, 12:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> shush owen <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> i think thats the old version, in the new version of it, its based on kills, you start off as a headcrab or slave. if you chose headcrab, when u kill someone in a headshot you get to take over their body, and you are planted on their head, like in the game. if you chose slave you must kill 5 people before they can be: Pit drone, Hound eye. They must kill 10 people for: Shock Trooper, Alien Grunt, Controller. They must kill 15 for: Baby garg, Voltigore. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    WHAT ABOUT BABY VOLTIGORES?
  • Mr_JeburtOMr_JeburtO Join Date: 2003-08-29 Member: 20340Members
    erm........ive got no clue what the hell u people are talking about your just making my head spin <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> ,

    this last life mod thing sounds cool whats the website for it?
  • Owen1Owen1 Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15457Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MR.JEBURTO+Nov 30 2003, 01:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MR.JEBURTO @ Nov 30 2003, 01:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> erm........ive got no clue what the hell u people are talking about your just making my head spin <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> ,

    this last life mod thing sounds cool whats the website for it? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    just click on cookie's sig
  • TheRealVashTheRealVash Join Date: 2003-05-21 Member: 16547Members
    edited November 2003
    Lol what about me XD <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
    And Cookie where can I get the official Last-Life sig?
  • CoolCookieCooksCoolCookieCooks Pretty Girl Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16446Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    there is no official sig <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • TheRealVashTheRealVash Join Date: 2003-05-21 Member: 16547Members
    edited November 2003
    Daza had the same one I think.
  • CoolCookieCooksCoolCookieCooks Pretty Girl Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16446Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    ah, they look similar, because i mad em both, ill make one for you too, hang around the sig image topic, ill make one for ya. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • TheRealVashTheRealVash Join Date: 2003-05-21 Member: 16547Members
    sig image topic, whaaa?
  • CoolCookieCooksCoolCookieCooks Pretty Girl Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16446Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    in the artwork forum, official sig n image post.
  • TheRealVashTheRealVash Join Date: 2003-05-21 Member: 16547Members
    OHHHH that one, I just noticed something we tore up this thread lol
  • StrabismoStrabismo Join Date: 2003-10-27 Member: 22052Members
    edited November 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--|Owen|+Nov 30 2003, 06:59 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (|Owen| @ Nov 30 2003, 06:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> alot like in the "swarm" mod. u choose what u wanna be at the begining of the game and get dropped in via those flyer things

    and i just noticed sumthing... strabismo, hydrogen and oxygen is water, so ur just rearranging my formula so the output is hot water, steam.

    now my theory seperates the oxygen from the hydrogen, (hydrogen = fuel | oxygen = waste)... the only waste will be oxygen and prob heat, light and sound energy <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It is just a game, you can do what you want but I still say that it is physically impossible. (I'l won't go in details this time)
  • BijiyBijiy Fantastic Damage Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23697Members
  • ThiefThief Ownage Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19214Members, Constellation
    free energy is possible - just go invent a cold fusion pistol
  • Owen1Owen1 Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15457Members
    <!--QuoteBegin---Thief-+Dec 1 2003, 10:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (-Thief- @ Dec 1 2003, 10:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> free energy is possible - just go invent a cold fusion pistol <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    meh... its not the mechanics, its the fact it recharges itself with reasonable speed... but it can overheat (doing multiple times within 20 sec will require a coolant change)
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