Must. Crush. Soccermums.
<a href='http://www.heraldnet.com/Stories/03/11/18/17748407.cfm' target='_blank'>I bring you death in the form of a thousand pointed objects</a>
F*** Soccermums. Seriously.
Yet another bulls*** article from some moronic 'expert' group. Apparently all I need to fly a plane these days is my good ol WASD config and a few extra buttons.
Jesus H. F***ing Christ. This has gotten beyond a joke... yet another lump in the gigantic sea of progogandistic s*** spewed forth from morons who don't even understand the culture, realise that its just entertainment, and that there is a few million gamers who DON'T kill people.
God. Take a hint, these idiots claiming "Video games made me do it" are just using it as an excuse not to take responsibility for their actions. It has essentially become the new 'Insanity' plea....
To quote an infamous radio talkshow.
Women to General
"The army equips people to kill"
General to Women
"Well you're equipped to be a prostitute, but you're not"
These people need to be shot off in a rocket somewhere far far far away...
F*** Soccermums. Seriously.
Yet another bulls*** article from some moronic 'expert' group. Apparently all I need to fly a plane these days is my good ol WASD config and a few extra buttons.
Jesus H. F***ing Christ. This has gotten beyond a joke... yet another lump in the gigantic sea of progogandistic s*** spewed forth from morons who don't even understand the culture, realise that its just entertainment, and that there is a few million gamers who DON'T kill people.
God. Take a hint, these idiots claiming "Video games made me do it" are just using it as an excuse not to take responsibility for their actions. It has essentially become the new 'Insanity' plea....
To quote an infamous radio talkshow.
Women to General
"The army equips people to kill"
General to Women
"Well you're equipped to be a prostitute, but you're not"
These people need to be shot off in a rocket somewhere far far far away...
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ya know maybe we should do one of those online petitions... and put it on cs forums ns forums and every damn forums todo with gaming...
think how many sig's we could get...
I simply do not see how moving the mouse to put a crosshair over a player,and then pressing mouse button 1 till he dies,can be considered effective training of a firearm.
One wonders why army needs to train gamers to use a rifle,throw greandes,etc when they enlist.I mean after all if people can learn how to kill from playing video games,then they can also learn how to shoot a firearm.
I think what these fools need to try is....
Step one : Play a video game that has guns and killing.Kill someone with a gun.
Step two : Take the real-life equavelent of the gun you just used in the video game to kill someone,and then try to load,take off saftey and shoot someone with it.
Step three : Fumble around while your "victim" runs and screams for help and the police guns you down as you frantically wave your gun about.
I mean ****,ive played so many games that invovles guns and killing people but i have absolutely no freaking idea how to use iron-sights,load or even freaking even take off the saftey.
And um....anyone who kills someone because of video games is mentally unstable,and CANNOT be used as a reason to ban video games or any such nonsense.
Thats like saying "I watched this person jaywalk,so i jaywalked and nearly caused a traffic accident,so would the court please sue the person who taught me how to jaywalk by letting me watch him jaywalk,instead of me?".
Oh, snap, I'm enlisting. Get me my gun, I'll just get aimbot.
Does this mean my mother is 'trained to be a terrorist' though? I sure hope not, I wouldn't want any anthrax in those cinnamon buns. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
She has also trained squashing her foes with the realistic jumping techniques of super mario as well as played splinter cell. Does this mean my mother is going to be teh ?ber-leet ninja some day?
On a more serious note, what do these morons think about violent games that are not realistic or simulate real violence, like NS, regular HL deathmatch, science and industry, unreal tournament, quake 3 etc? Next thing you know well have Mike Tyson using NS for an excuse for biting someone in the ear or something... <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
And at what point in history have kids not played violent games? Running around in the woods with mock rifles and pistols and or climbing rocks, beating each other up for being different, puting crap on the road to see what happens when cars run over it, screwing around with fireworks doing things they probably shouldn't etc. Frankly I prefer they virtually beat each other up. and parents CAN have insight into what they play and do when they are at home on the computer. They cannot have any insight into what they are doing when they are outside running around with their friends.
Stupid Quotes at five.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"Do you know what video games your children are playing?" <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's a bad one. Say yes, and you're a bad parent. Say no,and you're negligent.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Video games laced with human atrocities help young, impressionable people practice killing without care. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I realize now why the Army released that "America's Army" game.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Every year, enough video games are sold to put two of them in every American household.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
WHERE ARE MINE??? WHERE ARE MINE?!?!?!?!
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Children just need for their parents to play their video games with them. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Smartest thing he's said all day.
My mom knows how much of a <i>benefit</i> that video games are. Heck, she used to play Wolfenstein 3D, DOOM, Quake, etc.. (Now she just plays Mario games. FPS games have gotten too complicated for her. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->) She knows that there's no harm in it. There will always be people like my mom around, so don't worry.
Soccermums will always get their panties in a bunch over anything "new" and violent.
The only link, ever, EVER, between games and violence is that the Columbine killers played Doom. And I think it's pretty clear that those guys were screwed in the head to begin with. Doom had nothing to do with them going psycho (in fact, I would question how they managed to get so many guns. idkfa don't work in real life <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> )
Every supposed "phychiatric" link has been disproven over and over again. But these people won't stop. They'll keep flogging that dead horse even when the massive numbers of people playing GTO3 strangely fail to go around beating up prostitutes and jacking cars in real life.
Yes Postal2 is an exceptionally violent sadistic and fun game. I play it all the time and I haven't yet sliced someones head off with a shovel then played golf with it in the real world. The fact that your kids "under the age of 12" can buy adult rated video games in 15 out of 17 store is the fault of the stores and people not actually controlling there freaking kids.
Mothers Against Violence, stop trying to lay your inadequacies as parents on our shoulders, we don't want it.
I love how they make it seem like every parent in the world hates video games and if you don't, then you're a bad one. I would rather have my kid inside playing video games and cutting off some guys head then outside smoking weed and getting arrested. (though I can't say I'm not guilty of that myself <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> )
And since when did guns have crosshairs that could project out in front of me, are always accurate, and stay in the center of my feild of view? Wow, yea, CS is SO teaching me how to use a gun. Now if I could just find a riot shield...
My advice, just ignore them, they are a tiny minority that the media likes to portray as the majority. Seriously, some of these soccermoms just need to go away, and take their big a** SUV's with them, I'll settle for a little Civic anyday.
" Young players practice cutting heads off. They rehearse shooting police officers and urinating on them."
Where did they get all this urinating from?! Ive played many games (including both gta3 and vc) and I distinctly do NOT remember seeing a urination button.
"So this really really messed up guy killed a ton of people and didn't care. And in video games your kids are clicking at tons of polygons and dont care. [question from audience] Huh? Oh, well, uh, the killer didn't actually play video games, no. [question from audience] Uh, yeah, thats correct, he was actually uh, yeah, he was a religious zealot, but thats besides the point. The important thing is YOUR CHILDREN WILL BE PSYCHO MURDERES IF THEY PLAY GAMES!!one!1eleven"
EDIT: regarding the whole urination thing, and the other stuff mentioned in the article. All those activities are from ONE game, Postal 2, undeniably THE most violent and messed up game in existence, a game created PURELY for the enjoyment of violence. Hell, the thing didn't even sell that well. Why isn't MAVA going against the normal target: GTA3?
" Young players practice cutting heads off. They rehearse shooting police officers and urinating on them."
Where did they get all this urinating from?! Ive played many games (including both gta3 and vc) and I distinctly do NOT remember seeing a urination button. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Postal 2.
I like how there's no mention of existing ESRB guidelines. I'd have no problem with them at all, if they would just inforce them. It's like an R rated movie. Just don't let the kids who aren't 17 watch/play the movie/game.
There's an existing system for rating games, why not just use it?
To make a point, though, I have no problem if parents don't want their children playing violent video games. That's entirely their choice, and an understandable one, especially if the child is younger than the age certificate/ESRB recommended playing age. It's when the overzealous fools with too much enthusiasm for stirring things up try to ban games completely, even from the majority; the responsible gamers; that's when it gets ludicrous. Frankly, I have no patience for these people. Thankfully, a lot of their claims are so outrageous and ridiculous that they only pull in other overzealous idiots, leaving the sane, responsible masses to continue as they were. For example, this author's rather pathetic attempt to associate Gary Ridgeway's serial killings with video games, simply by <i>mentioning them in the same article</i> smacks not only of bad journalism, but can also be seen from a mile away as a desperate attempt to hide the fact that this man does not know what he is ranting on about. We don't really have much to fear from these people. I mean, some of the article reads like Mr. Bill France has trouble stringing full scentences together.
They say it's discriminatory, I suppose they mean it's discriminatory against homosexuals.
This is so dumb.
She has a point there. I mean isn't it true that every teenage driver who plays Rally Extreme is going to drive over people? That's what car-simulations are for: killing people. And isn't it true that the nerds that play Quake 24/7 are the ultimate killers? Best aim in the world, superior weapons handling, biggest muscles etc. Damn, I bet they can carry a shotgun as far as 15meters before falling on their knees and grabbing their chests.
Also it's nice that they are advertising Postal 2, by telling about its great features such as:
-Killing people
-Urinating on police officers
Makes me want to buy that game.
Meh, back to Hitman 2. I've already kept a 30 min break <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
<b>FASTER PUSSYCAT KILL KILL!</b> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<span style='color:white'>***Moved.***</span>
also, I just installed Hitman 2 the other day -- I read the back of the box while it was installing, and cringed: "Lethal arsenal at your disposal to make every kill an experience to savor." That's pretty f'd up right there =P
so I see where these idiotic VG haters are getting their ammunition... too bad they'll never realize it's their nasty, combative attitudes that turn out bad kids, not what they watch or play.
I'm quite serious, I found it humorous. It's fascinating to see people strutting around on their soapbox. Sometimes people like this at least try to be persuasive, but this one's a court jester.
I love how he tries to make a connection between today's violent video games and a serial killer who plead guilty in 2001 for murders done in the 1980s.
I love how he spews out statistics about the popularity of videogames and just stops; plenty of other reporters have come up with rather backwards cause-and-effect relationships between game violence and popularity, but he doesn't even <i>try</i>.
Best of all, I love how he points a finger at the big word "research" without showing the reputability of the source--or even whether the source exists--and then automatically assumes he's right. It's sort of how I could say that research shows a direct relationship between stupidity and people who don't have a bloody clue what they're talking about. After all, this guy may not be a psychologically-certified moron, but he's made quite a show out of displaying his ignorance on this subject.
Yes, <a href='http://www.mavav.org' target='_blank'>MAVAV, mothers against videogame addiction and violence</a>, was proven to be a hoax.
<a href='http://www.mavia.org/default.asp' target='_blank'>MAVIA, mothers against violence in america</a>, is (I assume) an actually existing organization.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Games rated T and M aren't for children.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
P.S I find it amusing that the <span style='color:red'><b>crybaby</span></b>mommies against fun organisation is even in existance
*EDIT* I flamed him good <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<span style='color:white'>See how easy it was to find a replacement word?</span>