Would You Use Umbra With A 25% Block Rate?
rockst4r
Join Date: 2003-08-14 Member: 19682Members
Join Date: 2003-08-14 Member: 19682Members
Would you use umbra with a 25% block rate?
i mean, would u even consider using umbra if it would only block one bullet out of four? i would not!
i did some testing at home with 2.01 (final) to search for the truth behind umbra. actually i didnt know if was necessary to stand in the cloud or if it would be sufficient to let the bullet fly through an area with umbra. i found out that you need to stand yourself in the umbra cloud and the "in umbra" has to show up at the bottom. thats what i expected, but i also noticed that only very few bullets were stopped by the umbra.
after a small test with 69 shots following results showed up:
69 shots fired
52 shots hit
17 shots missed
<u>that means only ~25% of the bullets were stopped</u>
PS: i did use 2 pcs. one player had adrenaline and was supported by 3 mcs and thus had enough energy to spray umbra continously (just +attack). the lerk was always covered by umbra!
i mean, would u even consider using umbra if it would only block one bullet out of four? i would not!
i did some testing at home with 2.01 (final) to search for the truth behind umbra. actually i didnt know if was necessary to stand in the cloud or if it would be sufficient to let the bullet fly through an area with umbra. i found out that you need to stand yourself in the umbra cloud and the "in umbra" has to show up at the bottom. thats what i expected, but i also noticed that only very few bullets were stopped by the umbra.
after a small test with 69 shots following results showed up:
69 shots fired
52 shots hit
17 shots missed
<u>that means only ~25% of the bullets were stopped</u>
PS: i did use 2 pcs. one player had adrenaline and was supported by 3 mcs and thus had enough energy to spray umbra continously (just +attack). the lerk was always covered by umbra!
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What are you calling for? Umbra up'd to say 50% efficiency?
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blocking only 25% is ridiculous and not even half of the promised. thats why noone uses it. it just feels like letting way to many bullets through.
DID I SAY that i want 6 out 7 bullets to be stopped? NO!
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Just how Umbra can save you long enough to fight back.
2. i dislike the fact that it does not work properly / like the devs wanted it
3. i cannot understand that you like it at 25%. its supposed to block 66% and of course it works with 25%. but its nearly useless. no one uses it... no one cares about it. thats not right.
<b>IT SHOULD BE NOTICED BY THE DEVS and changed accordingly</b>
otherwise the devs should say that it is meant to block only 25%
I believe umbra is supposed to have a PROBABILITY of blocking bullets. That means, it's possible that even if someone shoots 10 bullets at you, you could get hit by every single one, you'd just have to be extremely unlucky.
That means: Bullet 1: Percent of hitting you: 33%
Bullet 2: Percent of hitting you: 33%
Bullet 3: Percent of hitting you: 33%
And so on. It does not mean:
Bullet 1: Blocked 100%
Bullet 2:Blocked 100%
Bullet 3: Hits 100%
And anyhow, 25% is still quite handy on the bigger Kharaa. Not counting armor, the Onos has 500 HP. Add 25% of that and now the Onos has 750 HP, if say it was attacking a TF and standing still or there were TWO lerks with adrenaline spamming umbra.
And that's not even counting armor or regeneration.
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Your math is flawed.
500 + 25% (25% being 125 not 250!) = 625
And no comment on my first analysis?
who cares? its a friggen game!!! if you dont like it then dont play the **** game!!!
Every little bit helps.
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THAT!! all he said is he did a test and it failed...
no need to get defensive...
however i agree even 25 percent is effective.. especially verses l3 weapons...
~Jason
Spamming Umbra would do nothing, since Umbra does not stack.
dam i wish i remembered statistics. But statistically speaking i can tell off my head, that would result in a answer that we can reasonably say that the results are SIGNIFICANTLY different then advertised and that perhaps umbra doesnt really stop 2/3. Basically by statists its safe to bet your house, wife, 3 children and your left hand(going to need the right without the wife) on it.
The lerk as a support unit really doesnt fit well if the support level is severely redundant compared to its attacking capabilities.
Thx for the test but can u do it a few more times just to confirm it wasnt some major fluke?
- RD
This is the wrong place for the devs to notice it. Post it in the bugs forum.
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DUDE!
DOESN'T ANYONE FREAKING GET IT? IT SHOULDN'T BLOCK ONLY 33%...
IT SHOULD BLOCK 66%, AS PROMISED!
This kid has found a bug, NO WONDER it seems like umbra sucks, when in reality it should not.
Anyhow, if one of the dev's see this, they should check it out...
Also, preform more tests to be 100% sure on this... but I'm gonna do my own research if possible on this.