Pay To Play
<div class="IPBDescription">Is worth it.</div> Why do you people moan about paying to play a game.
Ok lets see...
A trip to the cinema:
£6 for tickets
£3 for food
A couple more for other stuff.
Total: £10ish
Entertainment: 1 - 2hours
A Pay to play game:
£10ish a month.
Entertainment: up to a month.
Make your own decisions. And dont forget... The money goes to hosting the servers and peoples salaries...
Thxkbai
Ok lets see...
A trip to the cinema:
£6 for tickets
£3 for food
A couple more for other stuff.
Total: £10ish
Entertainment: 1 - 2hours
A Pay to play game:
£10ish a month.
Entertainment: up to a month.
Make your own decisions. And dont forget... The money goes to hosting the servers and peoples salaries...
Thxkbai
Comments
You also conviniently left out the 50+ fee to get the game in the first place... i wouldnt mind if the game was free myself... but fifty bucks for the ability to pay you 10 bucks a month to play the game?
It all depends what you want to do. Rather than compare a movie with a pay2play game, compare a pay2play game with a non-pay2play game.
If it was that horrible, no-one would be paying them, you know. It's just some people aren't ready to pay.
Idealy Id pay less than £20 for the game and then less than £10 a month.
Rent it from blockbuster, like it, buy it.
Just like getting a demo and then buying the game.
I've done pay to play a few times already but at the end of the day I prefer just picking stuff off the shelf. If a game comes out that's genuinely good though I'll pay to play happily enough I guess. I've just yet to see one worthy of it because the vast majority of MMORPGs are just chatrooms with in-built numbers that go up through boring repitition.
I can see what you're saying though; it only costs about £2 worth of materials to make the game, including the box, manual e.c.t. Surely the fee itself should pay for the game?
AFAIK, UO is free to download now.... not that i'm probably ever going to play it again....
Shhh....you musn't speak in such a way....Flayra may get wise to us!
Granted the materials for making a game are about 4 of the 50 dollars, but the rest of that goes to the programmers, modellers, art directors, music guys and a myriad of other people. Pay to play games are <b>supposed</b> to be updated constatly, and that's where your extra money is going (don't need as much per game because they don't need quite as many people).
I have no idea why Everquest jacked it's prices more...that games really not worth it, the only thing it has going for it is exploring in an expansive chatroom...Once you've discovered it all there's no point. At least games like UO and DAoC have moderately dynamic worlds. Everquest does not.
WW2 Online, pay money to buy game,
Take game home and cant play it b/c its a laggy, buggy, poor looking POS, sure they wont hcarge you until the numerous and many update patches come out and when they do its still a pos. And by then you cant return it anyways.
Thats y you should at least wait a long time to buy game to see how it turns out, byt then your behind everyone lol.
Those are the only P2P games worth paying for.
then i might consider
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Hmmm. Had absolutely no idea that SOE holds a gun to your head, forcing you to pay for years. That's sure news to me :O <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Great thing about pay to play - if you don't pay, you don't play. They can't force you to sign up for ANY amount of time over a month, as you can simply stop paying and be done with it.
Ok lets see...
A trip to the cinema:
£6 for tickets
£3 for food
A couple more for other stuff.
Total: £10ish
Entertainment: 1 - 2hours
A Pay to play game:
£10ish a month.
Entertainment: up to a month. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
But you can't cheat and stay for another movie with a P2P game.
Something that people seem to forgetting is that you are still buying a game, monthly payment or not, which is why they carry that $50 price tag. You must also consider that, in most pay-to-play games, you recieve one month 'free' to try out the game and decide if you like it or not. Then, if you choose to continue playing, those monthy payments go towards keeping the servers running, keepiong the accounts alive, keeping hackers and cheaters out of the game, to pay the employees, and of course to make a profit.
Of course people say "If I'm going to pay for a game, it should be updated often so I can be entertained longer". Well, the larger the fanbase a game has, the more money they can get to put towards creating those upgrades and special features and such. Creating whole worlds and keeping it interesting and exciting for someone in a digital domain isn't as easy as it may seem.
A better analogy would be to compare paying for a game and paying for the costs of your car. You buy the car, and use it constantly, so you must pay for gas and repairs and such to make sure its running the way you want it to.
But in the end, its all a matter of prefference and opinion. If you are having a great time with a game and thoroughly enjoying it, great, keep paying and keep having fun. If you think a game is poorly created and you find yourself whiling away the hours with something else, don't pay and don't play. Its as simple as that.
Ok lets see...
A trip to the cinema:
£6 for tickets
£3 for food
A couple more for other stuff.
Total: £10ish
Entertainment: 1 - 2hours
A Pay to play game:
£10ish a month.
Entertainment: up to a month. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But you can't cheat and stay for another movie with a P2P game. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That made me laff
I've never yet payed to play a game on line, but I figure if im paying them then I better get pretty damned good service, really nice servers/constant updates etc. I can understand having server glitches if im playing for free, but seriously, if im paying them the game better be really damned good online.
Ok lets see...
A trip to the cinema:
£6 for tickets
£3 for food
A couple more for other stuff.
Total: £10ish
Entertainment: 1 - 2hours
A Pay to play game:
£10ish a month.
Entertainment: up to a month.
Make your own decisions. And dont forget... The money goes to hosting the servers and peoples salaries...
Thxkbai <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
omg.... we pay
$10 for ticket
$5 for large bag of popcorn
$3.50 for large drink
rip!!!!!
Ok lets see...
A trip to the cinema:
£6 for tickets
£3 for food
A couple more for other stuff.
Total: £10ish
Entertainment: 1 - 2hours
A Pay to play game:
£10ish a month.
Entertainment: up to a month.
Make your own decisions. And dont forget... The money goes to hosting the servers and peoples salaries...
Thxkbai <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
omg.... we pay
$10 for ticket
$5 for large bag of popcorn
$3.50 for large drink
rip!!!!! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The pound is worth more than the dollar. £6 is almost exactly $10.
I've never tried any P2P games and I don't really intend to. I just hate the idea of paying £35 for a game then paying £10 to keep on playing it.
If you don't like, you'll never play it, pure and simple.
I think one of the main benefits of pay to play would be that the cost automatically removes some smacktards from the system.
Smacktards increase exponentially the cheaper the game. Free stuff will inherently attract the largest number of smacktards, whereas stuff that costs money will attract few smacktards, but unfortunately more dedicated ones.
Personally, I left off playing Ragnarok Online when I decided that I'd spent enough time on it, only to be far outstripped by smacktards using bots. And the GMs would not respond to bot-reports, even on the obvious ones. By the third month I'd seen Eclair patrolling the same route 24/7, it was the last straw.
That and having a L67 Priest with a Munak pet and a Munak Hat, a L72 Assassin with a Lunatic pet and a +4 Bunny Band, and a L81 Hunter with a Bapho Jr pet and a +5 Evil Wing. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Oh, and the whole Mistress Card deletion thing. It was fun to toss off warps left and right without worry, or to wander down to Payon 4 and Status Recovery all the Sohees being tanked for Novices, so they could actually fight back (and flatten the cheaters).
I left RO right before it went P2P because they didn't take care of the US servers at all. And my Bot's stopped workin like they used too.
WW2 Online, pay money to buy game,
Take game home and cant play it b/c its a laggy, buggy, poor looking POS, sure they wont hcarge you until the numerous and many update patches come out and when they do its still a pos. And by then you cant return it anyways.
Thats y you should at least wait a long time to buy game to see how it turns out, byt then your behind everyone lol. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Davis- when was the last time you played? I played it last week at a friends house, and I'm thinking <i>If this was less complicated, BF42 would be worthless</i>
Amen, if you are charging me for 30 days (or 1 month) that comes to 720 hours, if you give me 720 hours i'll be fine.
Now ok I can see that its impossible to play for 24 hours a day so lets say then 40 hours per week (roughly the same time you spend working) thats 173 hours per month (excluding weekends) I bet no one even comes close to that on pay for play
make it fair and I wont mind paying
Amen, if you are charging me for 30 days (or 1 month) that comes to 720 hours, if you give me 720 hours i'll be fine.
Now ok I can see that its impossible to play for 24 hours a day so lets say then 40 hours per week (roughly the same time you spend working) thats 173 hours per month (excluding weekends) I bet no one even comes close to that on pay for play
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You don't seem to know the MMO world.
I remember Everquest. After school every day, I'd get on. Play till bed time. No internet, no nothin. Just EQ. Didn't even eat. I averaged 70-80 hours a week. And I was what EQ said was their "Normal" user. Their hardcores were WAY above me, and their underplayers were averaging 30-40 hours a week.