<!--QuoteBegin--moultano+Nov 7 2003, 04:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Nov 7 2003, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> For all of you microsoft apologists, ask yourself why there are still currently 30 known and unpatched vulnerabilities in Internet Explorer. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Because Windows users always have the best pr0n, duh.
I would have to say EA, Windows XP is stable as a rock despite what any ignorant linux zealot might try to say. Microsoft has also put out alot of great games over the years, and they gave us DirectX which makes games like HL2 possible in the first place.
Yeah IE might have security vulnerubilities, thats why I use Mozilla, yeah Windows might have security vulnerabilities, thats why I keep it patched and have a firewall up. In fact the only thing I hate MS for is not integrating PNG support into Internet Explorer.
If you want to waste your time punching in archaic console commands and recompiling kernels your free to do so, I'll just be here jamming around in Vice City and leveling up my Kensai in Baldurs Gate 2.
The biggest flaws made by EA is they ruined the C&C logo. Look at renegade.
Or start making a extremly small and unneeded expansion pack to BF1942 and see that nobody plays it cuase it's so usless make another thats asmuch as usless and should been two bigger patches. Which would have made the bf1942 community grow double it's size in my opinion.
In my lifetime I have only ever purchased one game. Supposedly vaunted to be the best WW2 FPS ever - Battlefield 1942. It sucked, big time. Weapons were identical no matter what team you chose, damage was unrealistic and it had the netcode from hell. Add to this the fact that the models look like they have been done on a graphics calculator, and I was sorely disappointed. But I could see the modding potential for this game, and with creations like DC, EoD, FH and Galactic Conquest, it started to become fun for me.
But then I noticed how little many of these mods were moving forward, sure they changed a lot of things but the seriously "cool" additions were lacking. So I head to the forums. I'm not entirely sure when BF42 was released, but it was a while ago. And they STILL havent released an SDK, and in the event that they do, I bet they'll never update it in a million years.
As much as I hate valve for what they did to DoD, they are outstanding in community support. EA reek of corporate fat cats. BF42 will be dead in two years, because at some stage its going to stop being profitable, and if you have a look at their website it says they reserve the right to pull the plug on online support with 90 days notice. I love the feeling of security that gives me.
I sent my Xbox back last week in for repairs and all i can is WOW, never have i seen such good service, they picked it up in the afternoon that very day then the next day they delivered it back in the morning, didn't cost a thing, then take B&W by EA, i had a faulty disk and the shop were i bought it from was sold out, so i phoned up EA and told them my problem, it would take 2-3 weeks and £25.99 to replace it, hmmm forget that <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> I prefer MS, don't know why people say they suck. also EA ruined C&C, they added jetpacks to BF1942 and they never stop with the sims games.
I tried to install Sim City 4, rush hour, but there's some goofy glitch were it totally FUBARS on many people's systems. The whole game itself just works wrong. Nothing graphic, but windows pop up where they shouldn't be, certain game aspects don't work, etc.
So I ask EA about it.
Me: I'm having this issue. Blah blah, this is what's wrong, here's my dxdiag.txt.
EA: Please attach dxdiag.txt
Me: I did in my first message. Fine here.
EA: Try closing down background applications.
Me: Okay, that has nothing to do with the problem, but fine.
Me: Didn't work. Next.
EA: Be sure you meet the minimum requirements.
Me: Did you even read my dxdiag?
EA: Try disabling hardware acceleration.
Me: My god that has nothing to do with the problem!
EA: Sorry, we've exhausted our support solutions. Please buy more EA games in the future.
<!--QuoteBegin--uranium - 235+Nov 7 2003, 05:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (uranium - 235 @ Nov 7 2003, 05:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I tried to install Sim City 4, rush hour, but there's some goofy glitch were it totally FUBARS on many people's systems. The whole game itself just works wrong. Nothing graphic, but windows pop up where they shouldn't be, certain game aspects don't work, etc.
So I ask EA about it.
Me: I'm having this issue. Blah blah, this is what's wrong, here's my dxdiag.txt.
EA: Please attach dxdiag.txt
Me: I did in my first message. Fine here.
EA: Try closing down background applications.
Me: Okay, that has nothing to do with the problem, but fine.
Me: Didn't work. Next.
EA: Be sure you meet the minimum requirements.
Me: Did you even read my dxdiag?
EA: Try disabling hardware acceleration.
Me: My god that has nothing to do with the problem!
EA: Sorry, we've exhausted our support solutions. Please buy more EA games in the future. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> ROFL <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--uranium - 235+Nov 7 2003, 05:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (uranium - 235 @ Nov 7 2003, 05:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I tried to install Sim City 4, rush hour, but there's some goofy glitch were it totally FUBARS on many people's systems. The whole game itself just works wrong. Nothing graphic, but windows pop up where they shouldn't be, certain game aspects don't work, etc.
So I ask EA about it.
Me: I'm having this issue. Blah blah, this is what's wrong, here's my dxdiag.txt.
EA: Please attach dxdiag.txt
Me: I did in my first message. Fine here.
EA: Try closing down background applications.
Me: Okay, that has nothing to do with the problem, but fine.
Me: Didn't work. Next.
EA: Be sure you meet the minimum requirements.
Me: Did you even read my dxdiag?
EA: Try disabling hardware acceleration.
Me: My god that has nothing to do with the problem!
EA: Sorry, we've exhausted our support solutions. Please buy more EA games in the future. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You: Uhh I'm having a problem with Sim City 4
EA: You bought Sim City 4, retail version 1.0, you should be expecting a patch shortly to fix all issues.
You: But why isn't it working properly?
EA: Because it isn't patched yet, duh.
You: But I mean I paid money for the game didn't I, shouldn't it work?
EA: Well technically it does, you see the dev team was just about half way done with it, but we were starting work on Sims Try out Beastiality, so we had to cut production short, besides there are so many other quality EA products out there why fret over one game?
Well the Germans were on the way to developing them I suppose....
If anything I love Microsoft, they gave me the X-Box which is one of the best designed consoles perhaps I'd go as far as saying the best designed one at the moment. They gave us Windows and DirectX which without we wouldn't have games like Half-Life 2 like mentioned but we also wouldn't have Flash, Shockwave and all the other "Cool-Stuff" that we currently have.
Microsoft only has the security issues exposed because it is the most used OS <b>BELIEVE IT OR NOT EVERY OS HAS SECURITY FLAWS!!!!</b> the fact is we don't know about them because the OS is not so widespread and therefore doesn't have as many "Script-Kiddies" trying to hack in somehow.
Don't like Microsoft? Fine, go play with another OS. Fact is most of what you'll be doing was spawned on a Windows platform. And you'll be missing out on such stuff as Half-Life 2.
Without Windows computing suddenly becomes very boring.
<!--QuoteBegin--Venmoch+Nov 7 2003, 05:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch @ Nov 7 2003, 05:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If anything I love Microsoft, they gave me the X-Box which is one of the best designed consoles perhaps I'd go as far as saying the best designed one at the moment. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> IMHO, the GC is the best one
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->dr.d Posted: Nov 7 2003, 11:44 PM I hope the jetpacks comment was a joke... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I wish it was <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Jimmeh!+Nov 7 2003, 10:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jimmeh! @ Nov 7 2003, 10:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Because only teenagers play the sims, and most teenagers are dumb **** who'll buy anything? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Wow this teenager hangs on to cash and makes it into the top 3% of the country brain wise.
Its more probably that parents see children playing the Sims or the adverts on tv and get the child it seeing as its a hell of a lot less violent than most decent games.
I love M$. I love the windows OS's. I like linux, specifically the KDE window manager. Guess what, I have KDE as my windows window manager! Open source, please. Open Office, the Gimp, and a crap load of other linux apps are on windows, why? because they give out the source and people compile it for windows. I don't like having to open up a console to install a program either. And Mac OS :/ <a href='http://www.mac-sucks.com' target='_blank'>See what I think about Mac Os!</a>
<!--QuoteBegin--Nomble+Nov 7 2003, 11:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nomble @ Nov 7 2003, 11:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The biggest flaws made by EA is they ruined the C&C logo. Look at renegade. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Look what happend after TS, RA2 was so cheesy and over the top it made propaganda seem like normal TV.
<!--QuoteBegin--Jimmeh!+Nov 7 2003, 11:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jimmeh! @ Nov 7 2003, 11:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> IMHO, the GC is the best one <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I have a GC too but the X-Box is so much better in design (Right down to the clips on the controller leads that detatch if you jerk your console too hard to having the hard drive <b>BEST CONSOLE IDEA EVER!!!!</b>
And then theres the MP3 ripping, really nice frontend, X-Box live, etc etc etc.
Sure the GC has some nice stuff (Like Viewtiful Joe and F-Zero GX) but the X-Box just does the whole console thing better....
I was just wondering, how many of those hating microsoft do not have one of those/use it: Windows, IE, Xbox, Microsoft Hardware, at least one of their games.
And how many REALLY tried Linux.
Note, this isn't to say they are the best, it's just to get numbers and see if people really know what they're talking about, or are just people waving a tux flag because pengins are cool and think billy has silly glasses, even if they spend 90% of their computer time on microsoft's turf.
add:
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Microsoft only has the security issues exposed because it is the most used OS BELIEVE IT OR NOT EVERY OS HAS SECURITY FLAWS!!!!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Voice of Reason! (though probably Linux probably has less issues indeed)
Also note the SIMPLICITY of the Windows. Though the Linuxes are catching up, you don't want to use a prompt and enter values to change the bg color, or to install a program, etc.. Windows has auto-detect drivers, have most support, and is overall accessible by EVERYBODY, which is probably why people attack it, as EVERYBODY has it.
Microsoft: Anti-cometative buisness practices, convicted monopolists, is a corporation, <b>KILLED BUNGIE (RIP)</b>. EA: Horrible support for their games, is a corporation, <b>IS PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATH OF LOOKING GLASS!!!</b>
hmm... . since they both managed to kill great game companies, that makes them equally hateable. However, MS's anti-competative nature directly affects my day to day life, so they win the hate award. With EA in a very close second mind you.
Don't even try to contend that Bungie isn't dead, because it is. Everything that originally made them who they were has been stripped from them except their name. RIP Bungie :'(
CplDavisI hunt the arctic SnonosJoin Date: 2003-01-09Member: 12097Members
I dont know, while I can see the reasons y people dont like either one of them , of all the games Ive bought from either of those companies, ive never had any major problems with.
Whether it be EA games, or EA sports,
I loved the need Need For Speed series, I must have have played countless soccer matches on FIFA 98, etc
Ill probably get NFS Underground too. I played BF1942 and its mods for a long time. I played the Comand and Conquer series for untold amounts of hours since my early ventures into PC games when I was younger.
As for Microsft, the mechwarrior series, Halo, (as a game in itself not nessicarily its console to PC port crap) and lot sof others,
Im a big Freelancer fan. Both single and online. Ive been building up my character for the longest time online.
I once had a problem with some video codecs ( i had installed some 3rd party codecs and it overwrote ones needed for Freelancer. MS support was very helpful, and helped me figure out how to fix it. Microsoft had even thought ahead to put the video codecs on the game CD just incase the problem I ran into happened.
So yea, security issues, they can be fixed, I really havnt run into any huge problems with either of these companies. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Cpl.Davis+Nov 8 2003, 03:20 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cpl.Davis @ Nov 8 2003, 03:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I dont know, while I can see the reasons y people dont like either one of them , of all the games Ive bought from either of those companies, ive never had any major problems with.
Whether it be EA games, or EA sports,
I loved the need Need For Speed series, I must have have played countless soccer matches on FIFA 98, etc
Ill probably get NFS Underground too. I played BF1942 and its mods for a long time. I played the Comand and Conquer series for untold amounts of hours since my early ventures into PC games when I was younger.
As for Microsft, the mechwarrior series, Halo, (as a game in itself not nessicarily its console to PC port crap) and lot sof others,
Im a big Freelancer fan. Both single and online. Ive been building up my character for the longest time online.
I once had a problem with some video codecs ( i had installed some 3rd party codecs and it overwrote ones needed for Freelancer. MS support was very helpful, and helped me figure out how to fix it. Microsoft had even thought ahead to put the video codecs on the game CD just incase the problem I ran into happened.
So yea, security issues, they can be fixed, I really havnt run into any huge problems with either of these companies. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes you did play C&C in your youth. BEFORE EA FUBARED IT!!!
<!--QuoteBegin--SkulkBait+Nov 8 2003, 09:01 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Nov 8 2003, 09:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> EA: Horrible support for their games, is a corporation, <b>IS PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATH OF LOOKING GLASS!!!</b> :'( <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Un fortunatly I know, there also part of the mess up of the licence in bielf that the following people or groups own the SS licence:
Orgin EA Looking Glass The other one that helped make SS1 Irritational Games And The Original desgine (James Warner?)
i wouldent say i 'hate' microsoft, or that i'm fanboyishly jealous of gates, i just seriously dislike their buisness practice. But i guess i get a "welcome to captlism" speach, and how its fair in the world of wallstreet that people are allowed to lock you into property standards, basicly try to **** up the internet by forceing people to use IE's own 'standards' by pushing their web publishing technolgy on companys and end users, and then attempt to blatently make it incompatable with any other browser thats W3 compatable. *shrug* maybe i'm just slightly bitter.
as far as consoles are concirned, i like all of the offerings, all 3 of them have their own strenths and weaknesses, althogh EA does have some problems with other platforms, most exclusive content goes the way of the PS2 - for example, network play on SSX3(i love the past two games), its PS2 only when the gamecube and x-box can easerly support it, even cooler would be the ablity to play the game between diff platforms... *rant* oh well...
and on the linux side, at the moment, you can do most things via GUI, gnome and kde have taken great steps in userblity, personally i favor gnome, in terms of user friendly its ahead of kde (its like a poor man's aqua).
<!--QuoteBegin--Venmoch+Nov 7 2003, 06:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch @ Nov 7 2003, 06:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Jimmeh!+Nov 7 2003, 11:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jimmeh! @ Nov 7 2003, 11:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> IMHO, the GC is the best one <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I have a GC too but the X-Box is so much better in design (Right down to the clips on the controller leads that detatch if you jerk your console too hard to having the hard drive <b>BEST CONSOLE IDEA EVER!!!!</b>
And then theres the MP3 ripping, really nice frontend, X-Box live, etc etc etc.
Sure the GC has some nice stuff (Like Viewtiful Joe and F-Zero GX) but the X-Box just does the whole console thing better.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeh, but the point is you can do that all on a PC, so why do you need to spend an extra £100+ to do it on a XBox?
<!--QuoteBegin--uranium - 235+Nov 7 2003, 02:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (uranium - 235 @ Nov 7 2003, 02:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I tried to install Sim City 4, rush hour, but there's some goofy glitch were it totally FUBARS on many people's systems. The whole game itself just works wrong. Nothing graphic, but windows pop up where they shouldn't be, certain game aspects don't work, etc.
So I ask EA about it.
Me: I'm having this issue. Blah blah, this is what's wrong, here's my dxdiag.txt.
EA: Please attach dxdiag.txt
Me: I did in my first message. Fine here.
EA: Try closing down background applications.
Me: Okay, that has nothing to do with the problem, but fine.
Me: Didn't work. Next.
EA: Be sure you meet the minimum requirements.
Me: Did you even read my dxdiag?
EA: Try disabling hardware acceleration.
Me: My god that has nothing to do with the problem!
EA: Sorry, we've exhausted our support solutions. Please buy more EA games in the future. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That's what I love about Microsoft. They have a way to solve every possible problem that could arise with their products. I was playing Dungeon Siege a while ago, just about to enter the chamber of the Goblin Mech, when the game crashes and my PC restarted, on it's own. After it restarted, I tried to start the game, but it froze at the initial loading screen. Needless to say, I wasn't happy. After unistalling, reinstalling, patching, and repeating the process 3 times, I swallowed my pride and called tech support. Within 6 minutes I got the game back up and running, and it's been critical error free for 5 monthes. If DS had been made by EA, I would have driven an M1A1 into their offices long ago.
I had some silly problem with my pagefile... so I went to microsoft support. Couldn't find anything in their FAQs or whatever, so I got ready to send an email. Then I saw this 'live chat'. This service was brand-spanking new.
I had some silly problem with my pagefile... so I went to microsoft support. Couldn't find anything in their FAQs or whatever, so I got ready to send an email. Then I saw this 'live chat'. This service was brand-spanking new.
About 5 minutes later I was done. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I assume you fixed the problem and didn't mail a pipe-bomb to Microsoft headquarters.
<!--QuoteBegin--Rellix+Nov 7 2003, 11:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rellix @ Nov 7 2003, 11:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Nomble+Nov 7 2003, 11:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nomble @ Nov 7 2003, 11:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The biggest flaws made by EA is they ruined the C&C logo. Look at renegade. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Look what happend after TS, RA2 was so cheesy and over the top it made propaganda seem like normal TV. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Atleast you could enjoy them , well I did. Renegade can't be fun.
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Because Windows users always have the best pr0n, duh.
I would have to say EA, Windows XP is stable as a rock despite what any ignorant linux zealot might try to say. Microsoft has also put out alot of great games over the years, and they gave us DirectX which makes games like HL2 possible in the first place.
Yeah IE might have security vulnerubilities, thats why I use Mozilla, yeah Windows might have security vulnerabilities, thats why I keep it patched and have a firewall up. In fact the only thing I hate MS for is not integrating PNG support into Internet Explorer.
If you want to waste your time punching in archaic console commands and recompiling kernels your free to do so, I'll just be here jamming around in Vice City and leveling up my Kensai in Baldurs Gate 2.
EDIT: <b>EA sucks.</b>
Or start making a extremly small and unneeded expansion pack to BF1942 and see that nobody plays it cuase it's so usless make another thats asmuch as usless and should been two bigger patches. Which would have made the bf1942 community grow double it's size in my opinion.
In my lifetime I have only ever purchased one game. Supposedly vaunted to be the best WW2 FPS ever - Battlefield 1942. It sucked, big time. Weapons were identical no matter what team you chose, damage was unrealistic and it had the netcode from hell. Add to this the fact that the models look like they have been done on a graphics calculator, and I was sorely disappointed. But I could see the modding potential for this game, and with creations like DC, EoD, FH and Galactic Conquest, it started to become fun for me.
But then I noticed how little many of these mods were moving forward, sure they changed a lot of things but the seriously "cool" additions were lacking. So I head to the forums. I'm not entirely sure when BF42 was released, but it was a while ago. And they STILL havent released an SDK, and in the event that they do, I bet they'll never update it in a million years.
As much as I hate valve for what they did to DoD, they are outstanding in community support. EA reek of corporate fat cats. BF42 will be dead in two years, because at some stage its going to stop being profitable, and if you have a look at their website it says they reserve the right to pull the plug on online support with 90 days notice. I love the feeling of security that gives me.
also EA ruined C&C, they added jetpacks to BF1942 and they never stop with the sims games.
So I ask EA about it.
Me: I'm having this issue. Blah blah, this is what's wrong, here's my dxdiag.txt.
EA: Please attach dxdiag.txt
Me: I did in my first message. Fine here.
EA: Try closing down background applications.
Me: Okay, that has nothing to do with the problem, but fine.
Me: Didn't work. Next.
EA: Be sure you meet the minimum requirements.
Me: Did you even read my dxdiag?
EA: Try disabling hardware acceleration.
Me: My god that has nothing to do with the problem!
EA: Sorry, we've exhausted our support solutions. Please buy more EA games in the future.
So I ask EA about it.
Me: I'm having this issue. Blah blah, this is what's wrong, here's my dxdiag.txt.
EA: Please attach dxdiag.txt
Me: I did in my first message. Fine here.
EA: Try closing down background applications.
Me: Okay, that has nothing to do with the problem, but fine.
Me: Didn't work. Next.
EA: Be sure you meet the minimum requirements.
Me: Did you even read my dxdiag?
EA: Try disabling hardware acceleration.
Me: My god that has nothing to do with the problem!
EA: Sorry, we've exhausted our support solutions. Please buy more EA games in the future. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
ROFL <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Thats the funniest thing ive heard all day
So I ask EA about it.
Me: I'm having this issue. Blah blah, this is what's wrong, here's my dxdiag.txt.
EA: Please attach dxdiag.txt
Me: I did in my first message. Fine here.
EA: Try closing down background applications.
Me: Okay, that has nothing to do with the problem, but fine.
Me: Didn't work. Next.
EA: Be sure you meet the minimum requirements.
Me: Did you even read my dxdiag?
EA: Try disabling hardware acceleration.
Me: My god that has nothing to do with the problem!
EA: Sorry, we've exhausted our support solutions. Please buy more EA games in the future. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You: Uhh I'm having a problem with Sim City 4
EA: You bought Sim City 4, retail version 1.0, you should be expecting a patch shortly to fix all issues.
You: But why isn't it working properly?
EA: Because it isn't patched yet, duh.
You: But I mean I paid money for the game didn't I, shouldn't it work?
EA: Well technically it does, you see the dev team was just about half way done with it, but we were starting work on Sims Try out Beastiality, so we had to cut production short, besides there are so many other quality EA products out there why fret over one game?
You: Name one.
EA: Thank you for calling tech support *click*
If anything I love Microsoft, they gave me the X-Box which is one of the best designed consoles perhaps I'd go as far as saying the best designed one at the moment. They gave us Windows and DirectX which without we wouldn't have games like Half-Life 2 like mentioned but we also wouldn't have Flash, Shockwave and all the other "Cool-Stuff" that we currently have.
Microsoft only has the security issues exposed because it is the most used OS <b>BELIEVE IT OR NOT EVERY OS HAS SECURITY FLAWS!!!!</b> the fact is we don't know about them because the OS is not so widespread and therefore doesn't have as many "Script-Kiddies" trying to hack in somehow.
Don't like Microsoft? Fine, go play with another OS. Fact is most of what you'll be doing was spawned on a Windows platform. And you'll be missing out on such stuff as Half-Life 2.
Without Windows computing suddenly becomes very boring.
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IMHO, the GC is the best one
To get an X-Box :
Defrag your pc
Insert decent game pad
Play game
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Because only teenagers play the sims, and most teenagers are dumb **** who'll buy anything? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wow this teenager hangs on to cash and makes it into the top 3% of the country brain wise.
Its more probably that parents see children playing the Sims or the adverts on tv and get the child it seeing as its a hell of a lot less violent than most decent games.
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Look what happend after TS, RA2 was so cheesy and over the top it made propaganda seem like normal TV.
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I have a GC too but the X-Box is so much better in design (Right down to the clips on the controller leads that detatch if you jerk your console too hard to having the hard drive <b>BEST CONSOLE IDEA EVER!!!!</b>
And then theres the MP3 ripping, really nice frontend, X-Box live, etc etc etc.
Sure the GC has some nice stuff (Like Viewtiful Joe and F-Zero GX) but the X-Box just does the whole console thing better....
Windows, IE, Xbox, Microsoft Hardware, at least one of their games.
And how many REALLY tried Linux.
Note, this isn't to say they are the best, it's just to get numbers and see if people really know what they're talking about, or are just people waving a tux flag because pengins are cool and think billy has silly glasses, even if they spend 90% of their computer time on microsoft's turf.
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Voice of Reason!
(though probably Linux probably has less issues indeed)
Also note the SIMPLICITY of the Windows. Though the Linuxes are catching up, you don't want to use a prompt and enter values to change the bg color, or to install a program, etc.. Windows has auto-detect drivers, have most support, and is overall accessible by EVERYBODY, which is probably why people attack it, as EVERYBODY has it.
That is all.
Microsoft: Anti-cometative buisness practices, convicted monopolists, is a corporation, <b>KILLED BUNGIE (RIP)</b>.
EA: Horrible support for their games, is a corporation, <b>IS PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATH OF LOOKING GLASS!!!</b>
hmm... . since they both managed to kill great game companies, that makes them equally hateable. However, MS's anti-competative nature directly affects my day to day life, so they win the hate award. With EA in a very close second mind you.
Don't even try to contend that Bungie isn't dead, because it is. Everything that originally made them who they were has been stripped from them except their name. RIP Bungie :'(
Whether it be EA games, or EA sports,
I loved the need Need For Speed series, I must have have played countless soccer matches on FIFA 98, etc
Ill probably get NFS Underground too. I played BF1942 and its mods for a long time. I played the Comand and Conquer series for untold amounts of hours since my early ventures into PC games when I was younger.
As for Microsft, the mechwarrior series, Halo, (as a game in itself not nessicarily its console to PC port crap) and lot sof others,
Im a big Freelancer fan. Both single and online. Ive been building up my character for the longest time online.
I once had a problem with some video codecs ( i had installed some 3rd party codecs and it overwrote ones needed for Freelancer. MS support was very helpful, and helped me figure out how to fix it. Microsoft had even thought ahead to put the video codecs on the game CD just incase the problem I ran into happened.
So yea, security issues, they can be fixed, I really havnt run into any huge problems with either of these companies. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Whether it be EA games, or EA sports,
I loved the need Need For Speed series, I must have have played countless soccer matches on FIFA 98, etc
Ill probably get NFS Underground too. I played BF1942 and its mods for a long time. I played the Comand and Conquer series for untold amounts of hours since my early ventures into PC games when I was younger.
As for Microsft, the mechwarrior series, Halo, (as a game in itself not nessicarily its console to PC port crap) and lot sof others,
Im a big Freelancer fan. Both single and online. Ive been building up my character for the longest time online.
I once had a problem with some video codecs ( i had installed some 3rd party codecs and it overwrote ones needed for Freelancer. MS support was very helpful, and helped me figure out how to fix it. Microsoft had even thought ahead to put the video codecs on the game CD just incase the problem I ran into happened.
So yea, security issues, they can be fixed, I really havnt run into any huge problems with either of these companies. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes you did play C&C in your youth. BEFORE EA FUBARED IT!!!
EA: Horrible support for their games, is a corporation, <b>IS PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATH OF LOOKING GLASS!!!</b>
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Un fortunatly I know, there also part of the mess up of the licence in bielf that the following people or groups own the SS licence:
Orgin
EA
Looking Glass
The other one that helped make SS1
Irritational Games
And The Original desgine (James Warner?)
Then EA sold their part and wouldnt say who to.
But i guess i get a "welcome to captlism" speach, and how its fair in the world of wallstreet that people are allowed to lock you into property standards, basicly try to **** up the internet by forceing people to use IE's own 'standards' by pushing their web publishing technolgy on companys and end users, and then attempt to blatently make it incompatable with any other browser thats W3 compatable.
*shrug* maybe i'm just slightly bitter.
as far as consoles are concirned, i like all of the offerings, all 3 of them have their own strenths and weaknesses, althogh EA does have some problems with other platforms, most exclusive content goes the way of the PS2 - for example, network play on SSX3(i love the past two games), its PS2 only when the gamecube and x-box can easerly support it, even cooler would be the ablity to play the game between diff platforms... *rant* oh well...
and on the linux side, at the moment, you can do most things via GUI, gnome and kde have taken great steps in userblity, personally i favor gnome, in terms of user friendly its ahead of kde (its like a poor man's aqua).
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I have a GC too but the X-Box is so much better in design (Right down to the clips on the controller leads that detatch if you jerk your console too hard to having the hard drive <b>BEST CONSOLE IDEA EVER!!!!</b>
And then theres the MP3 ripping, really nice frontend, X-Box live, etc etc etc.
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Yeh, but the point is you can do that all on a PC, so why do you need to spend an extra £100+ to do it on a XBox?
GC gamers are most unique, however I don't like the controller for sports games.
X-box games have 50% chance of becoming a PC game.
Ps2 basically has original games, and games from other consoles get converted to it.
Yeah... and they released the crappy generals... Poor westwood.
No more good C&C!!
So I ask EA about it.
Me: I'm having this issue. Blah blah, this is what's wrong, here's my dxdiag.txt.
EA: Please attach dxdiag.txt
Me: I did in my first message. Fine here.
EA: Try closing down background applications.
Me: Okay, that has nothing to do with the problem, but fine.
Me: Didn't work. Next.
EA: Be sure you meet the minimum requirements.
Me: Did you even read my dxdiag?
EA: Try disabling hardware acceleration.
Me: My god that has nothing to do with the problem!
EA: Sorry, we've exhausted our support solutions. Please buy more EA games in the future. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's what I love about Microsoft. They have a way to solve every possible problem that could arise with their products. I was playing Dungeon Siege a while ago, just about to enter the chamber of the Goblin Mech, when the game crashes and my PC restarted, on it's own. After it restarted, I tried to start the game, but it froze at the initial loading screen. Needless to say, I wasn't happy. After unistalling, reinstalling, patching, and repeating the process 3 times, I swallowed my pride and called tech support. Within 6 minutes I got the game back up and running, and it's been critical error free for 5 monthes. If DS had been made by EA, I would have driven an M1A1 into their offices long ago.
I had some silly problem with my pagefile... so I went to microsoft support. Couldn't find anything in their FAQs or whatever, so I got ready to send an email. Then I saw this 'live chat'. This service was brand-spanking new.
About 5 minutes later I was done.
I had some silly problem with my pagefile... so I went to microsoft support. Couldn't find anything in their FAQs or whatever, so I got ready to send an email. Then I saw this 'live chat'. This service was brand-spanking new.
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I assume you fixed the problem and didn't mail a pipe-bomb to Microsoft headquarters.
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Atleast you could enjoy them , well I did. Renegade can't be fun.