Which Is Worse, Microsoft Of Electronic Arts?

NecroNecro <insert non-birthday-related title here> Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1118Members
<div class="IPBDescription">hmm</div> Which is worse, a program coded by Microsoft or a product published by Electronic Arts?

imho the worst POSSIBLE (although slightly OT) would be:

MS coded product released by EA only avaliable via download from AOL


your views?
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  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->[10:48] <Khaim|Laptop> OMG... aol 10.0 coded by ms released by ea
    [10:48] <Comprox> MS coded product released by EA only avaliable via download from AOL
    [10:48] <Necro-> a program coded by ms, published by ea and for chat interface they use AOL<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That is all.
  • garry_Dgarry_D Join Date: 2003-10-31 Member: 22154Members, Constellation
    yeha microsoft really sucks their products really suck thats why 98% of the world uses them.

    Lets jump on the M$ sucks bandwaggon though.
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    edited November 2003
    Microsoft releases rather stable programs if you ask me, and they are slightly more complex then games, so you have to give them a little bit of breathing room for mistakes. Microsoft has major security flaws but that can be countered by a smart user, EA just releases utter crap, and no matter how much you know about computers you can't fix a horribly bugged game.

    Also Microsoft patches come out about 50 million times faster than EA patches, and at least MS doesn't port Mac OS's and pass them off as PC : P
  • pielemuispielemuis Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 72Members, NS1 Playtester
    Both companies are just trying to make money, nothing wrong with that. Sure MS's software has security flaws, but do you seriously think all those unix variants are perfectly secure? It just makes more sense to look for and exploit security flaws in the most popular operating systems in the world. And as for EA, that's just a publisher as far as I know, so I'd say the software houses that actually wrote the games are responsible for them being crap. Sure EA may pressure them to release early, but a crap game is still a crap game.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    The thread somehow doesn't seem to aim on what the Disc. forum is for. <span style='color:white'>***Moved.***</span>
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--pielemuis+Nov 7 2003, 01:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pielemuis @ Nov 7 2003, 01:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Both companies are just trying to make money, nothing wrong with that. Sure MS's software has security flaws, but do you seriously think all those unix variants are perfectly secure? It just makes more sense to look for and exploit security flaws in the most popular operating systems in the world. And as for EA, that's just a publisher as far as I know, so I'd say the software houses that actually wrote the games are responsible for them being crap. Sure EA may pressure them to release early, but a crap game is still a crap game. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    EA doesn't so much pressure as take what the dev team has so far and push it out the door. Then have the devs start working on a patch to fix the game in a month or two after the sales get done, if the game doesn't sell EA completlely drops the project and moves on to it's next massively produced game. You bought an EA game that didn't sell well? Don't expect any support.
  • ang3lang3l Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22116Members, Constellation
    MS Bandwagon is right. You all **** and compain that MS has the worse coding of any company. But give me one personal example of how you know it sucks. MS didnt get to the top by "crappy coding". They did the time, and put the effort in to get their. Windows is one of the most solid operating systems out their. I luv all of MS programs, and their hardware is just as good, but dont get me wrong i like apples also. Each OS has their +'s. I hear 14 year olds who dont know how to run a computer install a program that **** up their os, so now it crashes ever 5 min, and they turn and blame it on the OS. Well learn wth you are doing first. You guys are no better then all those adults place blame on "Video games", "Music", and "TV". Sorry if i hurt any ones feelings but this is my personal opinion.
  • FamFam Diaper-Wearing Dog On A Ball Join Date: 2002-02-17 Member: 222Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Microsoft's software supplies demand, and is generally rather good on usability and functionality. And personally, I find non-microsoft products much easier to crash. Sure, they do a few things wrong, but who doesnt? Perhaps one day I can be like Bill Gates. Successful, rich, and providing a service which the world needs.

    EA plays on peoples addictions to further their profit, but thats fair game in a capitalist society.
  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    EA is much worse. They are cashcows.

    Microsoft, if you ever go to their help site, hooo-boy do they have an option for every little bug to get fixed.

    And yes, they do have security issues, but so does everything. it's just that Windows security holes get much more screen time because it is the biggest OS.
  • NecroNecro &lt;insert non-birthday-related title here&gt; Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1118Members
    imho EA is far worse, microsoft atleast supports its products.

    ea does not. a few examples:

    cnc generals - need i say more?
    mohaa - sdk released TWO YEARS after the initial release
    any sport game - need i say more?
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    edited November 2003
    I think i'm perfectly justified in hating microsoft thank you very much.

    Why?

    No, it's not because they make buggy products, it's because they make products that cost loads and you can't run a computer without!

    Windows XP costs £200. We had to get it so that we could have a shared internet connection. Then we realised you can only install windows XP on ONE computer that you own.

    So if I want to install XP on MY computer, I need to shell out £200.

    I think i'll stick to 98 thank you very much.

    *Edit* As for the <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->MS coded product released by EA only avaliable via download from AOL<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->, there is something worse.

    MS coded expansion-pack for The Sims released by EA only available via download on AOL via Fileplanet. *edit*
  • RenegadeRenegade Old school Join Date: 2002-03-29 Member: 361Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+Nov 7 2003, 10:01 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Nov 7 2003, 10:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Also Microsoft patches come out about 50 million times faster than EA patches, and at least MS doesn't port Mac OS's and pass them off as PC : P <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    dr.d is just about the only sane person in this forum. Everyone else wants to hop on the "Lets hate Microsoft" or the "Lets hate Electronic Arts" bandwagon. If not for them we wouldn't have games like Dungeon Siege, The Medal of Honor Series, Age of Empires, Halo, Rise of Nations, etc...
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    EA are certainly unscrupulous, but Fifa 2004 and SSX3 are damn fine games so I can at least appreciate them handling the publishing side of things.
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    a program coded by aol published by m$ only available for download through ea



    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    EA Games suck more, they killed Westwood <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    I don't want to knock on Gates after all the charity he has done. Whatever your issues with a little bug in an OS may be, donating a large amount of money to help others probably over-rides that.


    So, i guess it's EA for me.
  • RellixRellix Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13572Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    EA wins hands down, they were first to start raising prices yet the best off publisher, they offer the worst support I'v ever seen (even steam offers more). If they publish a good idea (which they do once every while) they milk the idea until its review % goes from 90% to 30%.

    EA want maximum prfoits less service.
    MS want good profits maximum service, just look at X-box selling at a loss.
  • ang3lang3l Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22116Members, Constellation
    So o well you gotta pay for a product. Welcome to the real world. And considering the time they have put in to this product to develop it, and the amount of people behind the development of it to this day requires a lot of money. Second of all, you can run a computer with out Windows just fine. You just can run windows with out windows bro. Its call DOS, MS must be doing something right if they are able to get all the other software companys to make their products for this OS. If you dont like windows go get a free UNIX download, or maybe a mac OS. But you still are making a good point form what i see, just that you dont like opening up your wallet.

    As for EA, i doint really have any problems with them seeing as what they have done or will do has effect me. Other then that fact i dont agree wtih their sports game, i personal luv their sports game. FIFA is i think by far the best soccer game out their.
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    I'd have to say after the 50th The Sims expansion pack EA win hands down. How they think they can get away with selling the same game with a slightly different feature or theme over and over and over again is beyond me.

    Some of the games they have published arent so bad though.
  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--supernorn2000+Nov 7 2003, 04:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (supernorn2000 @ Nov 7 2003, 04:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'd have to say after the 50th The Sims expansion pack EA win hands down. How they think they can get away with selling the same game with a slightly different feature or theme over and over and over again is beyond me.

    Some of the games they have published arent so bad though. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Because only teenagers play the sims, and most teenagers are dumb **** who'll buy anything?
  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    For all of you microsoft apologists, ask yourself why there are still currently 30 known and unpatched vulnerabilities in Internet Explorer.
  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jimmeh!+Nov 7 2003, 04:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jimmeh! @ Nov 7 2003, 04:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Because only teenagers play the sims, and most teenagers are dumb **** who'll buy anything? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I love the way you generalize whole age groups. Really, it's rather noble.
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    edited November 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--moultano+Nov 7 2003, 04:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Nov 7 2003, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> For all of you microsoft apologists, ask yourself why there are still currently 30 known and unpatched vulnerabilities in Internet Explorer. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    beacuse i run firebird?

    nice one mojo ... i woulda had him, had you not had that scrawny little twelve-year-old-i-think-im-13.37 with a squeaky voice flamer [/irony]
  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--moultano+Nov 7 2003, 04:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Nov 7 2003, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> For all of you microsoft apologists, ask yourself why there are still currently 30 known and unpatched vulnerabilities in Internet Explorer. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Someone should let them know about it then? You don't have to use IE, you know.
  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--MrMojo+Nov 7 2003, 04:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Nov 7 2003, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Jimmeh!+Nov 7 2003, 04:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jimmeh! @ Nov 7 2003, 04:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Because only teenagers play the sims, and most teenagers are dumb **** who'll buy anything? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I love the way you generalize whole age groups. Really, it's rather noble. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I detect a hint of sarcasm.

    I myself am a teenager, and 9/10 of my mates play The Sims.

    9/10 of them like it.

    9/10 of them love it.

    I have not met a single person older than 17 who plays The Sims.
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    this is gonna get locked if this keeps up...
  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jimmeh!+Nov 7 2003, 04:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jimmeh! @ Nov 7 2003, 04:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--MrMojo+Nov 7 2003, 04:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Nov 7 2003, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Jimmeh!+Nov 7 2003, 04:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jimmeh! @ Nov 7 2003, 04:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Because only teenagers play the sims, and most teenagers are dumb **** who'll buy anything? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I love the way you generalize whole age groups. Really, it's rather noble. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I detect a hint of sarcasm.

    I myself am a teenager, and 9/10 of my mates play The Sims.

    9/10 of them like it.

    9/10 of them love it.

    I have not met a single person older than 17 who plays The Sims. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh good, you noticed. I was afraid you **** teenagers would just let it slide.
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    edited November 2003
    what if we just said that m$, ea, and aol all suck (in no order) but we have no choice but to accept their existance ... for now <!--emo&::siege::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='siege.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    That is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've heard today. You don't have to accept. Don't use the product. Wow, I came up with a solution already ! And yes, a company wants to make money. That's their goal. They honestly don't care about you, just like you don't care about them.

    Don't give me that "oh, the majority uses it, but I'm too much of a free thinker" ****, either. You're not special, you aren't a free thinker.
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    i dont use aol, i dont care that it exists, i accept the fact that it exists, i do something less productive with my time, like posting about what could possibly be done to aol on the forums that i frequent
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