Linux Is Evil!111!1

DiabolusCaligoDiabolusCaligo Join Date: 2003-09-05 Member: 20585Members, Constellation
in Linux Server Support
<div class="IPBDescription">HD screws itself on shutdown...</div> Perhaps it's just my computer, or maybe just RH9, but for some reason, Linux is screwing itself...

So I have a bunch of server software running off of RH9. I have the whole damn thing installed... EVERYTHING...

Now, the server worked fine when it was running, but I went to tweak some settings and passwords and crap, and when I went to shutdown, it... never shut down... it just stayed on, with the damn blinking white underscore, and some crap about how it's trying to halt the system and shutting off it's hard drive. So after leaving it there for an hour, just thinking it was taking it's time, I decided to unplug the ****.

When I started it up again, it failed to start a bunch of services, and mentioned that a portion of the hd was screwed up.

I've formatted and reinstalled several times, and the same problem has happened...

I'm about to throw the damn thing out the window!11!1 (huh huh... windows...)

Windows ain't great as a server, especially since I run apache on the same box as well...
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  • Jim_has_SkillzJim_has_Skillz Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12475Members, Constellation
    Running linux is not for newbies, although it can be learned easily with a moderate amount of time doing so.

    If you think your harddrive is the problem, start anew with a new harddrive. Harddrives aren't that expensive, just get a new one thats like 60 gbytes, doesn't have to be more than that, its just a server.
    If it still doesn't work with the software, then it is your fault.
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  • verboseverbose Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9968Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--DiabolusCaligo+Oct 14 2003, 06:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DiabolusCaligo @ Oct 14 2003, 06:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> When I started it up again, it failed to start a bunch of services, and mentioned that a portion of the hd was screwed up.

    I've formatted and reinstalled several times, and the same problem has happened... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Can you be more specific, so that we can help? There are numerous possibilities here, from filesystem corruption, to partition table corruption, to disk failure, to controller failure, etc. Just installing Windows won't help you if you're got a hardware failure on your hands. The error messages, verbatim down to the punctuation, tell us a lot. The installation procedure that you used helps. Basically, there is no such thing as "too much information."
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  • VadakillVadakill The Almighty BSO Join Date: 2002-04-02 Member: 373Members, NS1 Playtester
    Linux is amazingly robust when dealing with software and even file system problems. I would bet that the problem you are seeing has to do with a hardware failure of some kind, it sounds like ahard disk or disk controller problem. Don't blame linux for your hardware problems, you don't blame windows when hardware fails do you?
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  • predatory_kangaroopredatory_kangaroo Join Date: 2003-01-12 Member: 12225Members
    I do, especially when it pops up one of those "Delayed write failed" messages... I copy a file onto my thumbdrive, tell it to make it safe to remove it, then once it says it's ok, I take it out and it pops up that damn box...
    Then it corrupts my thumbdrive :'(

    I once ran scandisk on my hard-drive and it completely ate the partition table (don't ask me how, that shouldn't even be possible).

    But back to the point - depending on what kind of file system you were using and what error messages you are getting, the solution could be anything - from a simple fsck, to deleting the disk partition table and starting afresh, or the much more drastic buying a new hard-drive.

    All I can say is that I hope you didn't have any important data on there, and that you tell us those error messages before you throw that drive out the window
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  • DiabolusCaligoDiabolusCaligo Join Date: 2003-09-05 Member: 20585Members, Constellation
    it was a filesystem corruption... it's not controller or hardware failure crap...

    I'm not that much of a newbie to Linux, I just tend to suck without a GUI...

    I'll probably just get a whole new damn server with RH10 when it comes out or maybe mandrake, unless that's crap...
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  • verboseverbose Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9968Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--DiabolusCaligo+Oct 15 2003, 02:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DiabolusCaligo @ Oct 15 2003, 02:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it was a filesystem corruption... it's not controller or hardware failure crap... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    A failing controller, cable, motherboard, memory, or other part can cause filesystem corruption though. Unless you're running a bleeding-edge version of a filesystem, it's probably a hardware or driver problem that resulted in the corruption.
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  • DiabolusCaligoDiabolusCaligo Join Date: 2003-09-05 Member: 20585Members, Constellation
    well... I suppose... but it used to work...it seems that ever since like... a month ago it suddenly started this rampage of crashes on shut down... the Filesystem is ext3 or something with a 3 in it. I can't remember... I should probably research this more, shouldn't I... <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • verboseverbose Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9968Members, Constellation
    I'm not current on my ext3 news, but last I knew, it was still a little buggy. Your problem may be simply a filesystem software bug. Probably safer to just use ol' rock-solid ext2, or a known stable version of ReiserFS. That means you're probably looking at a complete format and reinstall though.
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  • DiabolusCaligoDiabolusCaligo Join Date: 2003-09-05 Member: 20585Members, Constellation
    maybe it's the NS server software that's screwing HD...

    I had a CS server when it was working...

    hrmmm... ::ponders::

    Perhaps if I had the Natural Selection source code I could make my own damn compile!1!

    Speaking of NS source code, will this game ever be open-source?
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  • ObsidianAthemeObsidianAtheme Join Date: 2003-01-16 Member: 12360Members
    I doubt it, but you never know. Maybe in a few years, or when they move on to the HL2 engine.

    It would be REALLY nice to see the previous versions of the mod as well, to see how it progressed, and what kinds of techniques they used to pull down the server CPU usage over time. The servers run so much better now!
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  • CatCopCatCop Join Date: 2003-08-28 Member: 20296Members, Constellation
    roon1 mtehy have lin0rx111!!111
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  • DiabolusCaligoDiabolusCaligo Join Date: 2003-09-05 Member: 20585Members, Constellation
    I think the reason Flayra is holding the code is because he's scared we'll sell his work....

    also, I think it would be easier to make hacks if the source was released....

    I think...

    **** I WANT IT NOW!! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • CatCopCatCop Join Date: 2003-08-28 Member: 20296Members, Constellation
    Or maybe once we have the code we might eat flayra...
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