Tsa Dumb?

Lt_HendricksonLt_Hendrickson Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14761Members
2. Questions

1. Why is the TSA too stupid to remember how they upgraded stuff and have to reupgrade stuff every mission and

2. Why doesn't the TSA send a squad of 20 heavy marines in to everyship and instantly wipe out the aliens. Hey its a tiny investment the TSA need simple make and it'll save them tons or res every mission and not mention tons of lives every mission.
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  • AeaAea Join Date: 2003-10-09 Member: 21552Members
    But then it would be boring, why don't all the aliens start all upgraded too?
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    because its a game
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    Simple answer? Read the backstory.

    Long answer: The TSA are on a tight budget. Very few corporations or governments even *like* them, though the people love 'em to pieces. They can afford to send copies of software detailing the construction of given structures, but cannot justify sending along expensive equipment. In short, the structures and equipment they make are the 'fee' they charge a ship for clearing it of Kharaa, as they use ship resources to make them. They slot their equipment specs into the Comm Chair, and work from there with what they can lay their hands on.
  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    A novel won't make a good multiplayer game. The story itself, if you ignore those loopholes, is very good.
  • steamedhamssteamedhams Join Date: 2002-11-30 Member: 10333Members, Constellation
    I thought nano-sludge was supposed to be unlimited
  • TyphonTyphon Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1899Members
    1. when you 'upgrade' something its not like your having a machine acutally do research on how to create a certain technology like phase tech or improved armor or something. The 'research' in this game is actually the machine <b>teaching</b> the civilian grade nano-stuff how to make these military-grade things. Thats why you have to 're-research' everything every game, you actually KNOW the technology, but you have to teach the nanogrid of the environment to produce these higher tech things.

    2. Tight budget. The TSA simply cant afford to have every ship fully equipped. It would weigh too much, cost too much to create, and would require far more res than they have access to. Therefore, they have to draw up on the stations nano-sludge to 'finance' their gear.
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    <!--QuoteBegin--STEAMEDHAM+Oct 9 2003, 04:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (STEAMEDHAM @ Oct 9 2003, 04:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I thought nano-sludge was supposed to be unlimited <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Think about that from a logical standpoint.

    A> Where does the MASS come from, to make more nano-sludge? It doesn't appear out of thin air.

    B> Originally, res nodes had a limited amount of sludge, and each gave at their own rate. This was taken out as it led to a late-game resource choke, most of the time.

    C> If nano-sludge were unlimited/free, then the frontiersmen WOULD pretty easily just make all their gear and take it with them. As it stands, a deep-space ship just has such a large store of it, it's *effectively* unlimited.
  • Cleric_EpochCleric_Epoch Join Date: 2003-06-26 Member: 17714Members, Constellation
    edited October 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->A> Where does the MASS come from, to make more nano-sludge? It doesn't appear out of thin air.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    In theroy it should. Nanobots should be able to make the atoms in the air into anything they were programed to by addin or removing electrons and/or protons/neutrons. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Epoch666+Oct 9 2003, 07:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Epoch666 @ Oct 9 2003, 07:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->A> Where does the MASS come from, to make more nano-sludge? It doesn't appear out of thin air.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    In theroy it should. Nanobots should be able to make the atoms in the air into anything they were programed to by addin or removing electrons and/or protons/neutrons. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    owned <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Black Mage+Oct 9 2003, 08:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Black Mage @ Oct 9 2003, 08:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Epoch666+Oct 9 2003, 07:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Epoch666 @ Oct 9 2003, 07:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->A> Where does the MASS come from, to make more nano-sludge? It doesn't appear out of thin air.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    In theroy it should. Nanobots should be able to make the atoms in the air into anything they were programed to by addin or removing electrons and/or protons/neutrons. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    owned <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Agreed. (You might consider <i><b>pwned</b></i> however...)
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    That'd also take a large amount of time - arguably long enough to make a facility overrun with kharaa to the point where destroying it would be more cost effective.
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    edited October 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Cold-NiTe+Oct 9 2003, 07:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Oct 9 2003, 07:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Black Mage+Oct 9 2003, 08:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Black Mage @ Oct 9 2003, 08:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Epoch666+Oct 9 2003, 07:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Epoch666 @ Oct 9 2003, 07:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->A> Where does the MASS come from, to make more nano-sludge? It doesn't appear out of thin air.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    In theroy it should. Nanobots should be able to make the atoms in the air into anything they were programed to by addin or removing electrons and/or protons/neutrons. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    owned <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Agreed. (You might consider <i><b>pwned</b></i> however...) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    nah it could only be pwned if he said:
    "but what about <b>thick</b> air?"
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    considering the super-low density of molecules, or 'mass' of the gas we call air it'd not only take a long time but you'd probably need deprive the ship of a breathable atmosphere just to make a shotgun <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    The TSA can't be that intelligent though; most of their recruits training seems to revolve around wedging their member in the armoury and fufilling their empty chamber needs <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AeaAea Join Date: 2003-10-09 Member: 21552Members
    <span style='color:orange'>*me points to 2nd reply</span>
  • Big_Chief_Brown_BottomBig_Chief_Brown_Bottom Join Date: 2003-01-22 Member: 12584Members
    edited October 2003
    every game that pits players vs players have upgrades that have to be upgraded from scratch every round. it is just the way things are.
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Geminosity+Oct 9 2003, 07:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Oct 9 2003, 07:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> considering the super-low density of molecules, or 'mass' of the gas we call air it'd not only take a long time but you'd probably need deprive the ship of a breathable atmosphere just to make a shotgun <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    The TSA can't be that intelligent though; most of their recruits training seems to revolve around wedging their member in the armoury and fufilling their empty chamber needs <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ... i think armorys should come standard with spikes .... <i>pain</i>
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Black Mage+Oct 9 2003, 08:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Black Mage @ Oct 9 2003, 08:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Cold-NiTe+Oct 9 2003, 07:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Oct 9 2003, 07:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Black Mage+Oct 9 2003, 08:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Black Mage @ Oct 9 2003, 08:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Epoch666+Oct 9 2003, 07:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Epoch666 @ Oct 9 2003, 07:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->A> Where does the MASS come from, to make more nano-sludge? It doesn't appear out of thin air.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    In theroy it should. Nanobots should be able to make the atoms in the air into anything they were programed to by addin or removing electrons and/or protons/neutrons. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    owned <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Agreed. (You might consider <i><b>pwned</b></i> however...) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    nah it could only be pwned if he said:
    "but what about <b>thick</b> air?" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ahh, now that would indeed by <b><i>pwned</i></b>.

    And Big Chief, is there really any need to insult him, he asked a serious question, he just did not consider the consequences of the question if things were truly logical.
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    As for "why don't aliens"-

    Its simple energy conservation. Why create large free roaming animals when all threats are gone?

    Why spawn onos when perhaps a skulk will do?




    Follow the logic from there.
  • a_civiliana_civilian Likes seeing numbers Join Date: 2003-01-08 Member: 12041Members, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead
    edited October 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Epoch666+Oct 9 2003, 09:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Epoch666 @ Oct 9 2003, 09:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->In theory it should. Nanobots should be able to make the atoms in the air into anything they were programed to by addin or removing electrons and/or protons/neutrons.  <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    They're not <i>that</i> small. They're nanobots, meaning their size is on the order of 10^-9 meters. The size of a subatomic particle, on the other hand, is on the order of 10^-15 meters. That's a million times smaller.

    [edit]
    However, the nanobots wouldn't have to directly manipulate the particles in order to convert one substance to another, so it <i>would</i> be possible for them to convert air into nanosludge.

    Anyway, that's not creating mass out of thin air, because the mass already exists (in the form of thin air). The mass is merely being rearranged.
    [/edit]
  • GlissGliss Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14800Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    edited October 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Big Chief Brown Bottom+Oct 9 2003, 06:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Big Chief Brown Bottom @ Oct 9 2003, 06:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> every game that pits players vs players have upgrades that have to be upgraded from scratch every round. it is just the way things are. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Why must you flame? It was a serious question, and it was a perfectly normal one.



    Whoa, civilian, where did <i>that</i> come from?
  • EidolanEidolan Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8694Members
    Chould't the nano's just start a nuclear reaction if they CHOULD move things that small?
  • EidolanEidolan Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8694Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Necrosis+Oct 9 2003, 09:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necrosis @ Oct 9 2003, 09:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> As for "why don't aliens"-

    Its simple energy conservation. Why create large free roaming animals when all threats are gone?

    Why spawn onos when perhaps a skulk will do?




    Follow the logic from there. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The aliens in there "true" form are just a buch of cells foating around, but when they sence the marines they start to "mass" and from larger live forms (hives, skulks ect ect).
  • EidolanEidolan Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8694Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Typhon+Oct 9 2003, 07:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Typhon @ Oct 9 2003, 07:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 1. when you 'upgrade' something its not like your having a machine acutally do research on how to create a certain technology like phase tech or improved armor or something. The 'research' in this game is actually the machine <b>teaching</b> the civilian grade nano-stuff how to make these military-grade things. Thats why you have to 're-research' everything every game, you actually KNOW the technology, but you have to teach the nanogrid of the environment to produce these higher tech things.

    2. Tight budget. The TSA simply cant afford to have every ship fully equipped. It would weigh too much, cost too much to create, and would require far more res than they have access to. Therefore, they have to draw up on the stations nano-sludge to 'finance' their gear. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ok lets look at it this way, the marines tech up all the way, pwn the aliens with there HA/HMG. So when they pack up to go home they toss all there gear out the air lock? Why not take it to the next mission. What i want to know is how the IP works. The back story says when a marine dies the IP takes a new marine from the ship and sends him there. But lets say a marine dies 10 times, that means there are 10 marines sitting on that ship, why not all come down at once instead of waiting for one to die?
  • Hida_TsuzuaHida_Tsuzua Lamarck&#39;s Heir Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 79Members, NS1 Playtester
    Sadly the problem comes down to playablity. RTSs and other games suffer the same problem. For example in C&C Generals, why doesn't the US get particle beam the GLA and call it a day? Or why does the GLA stand up and fight the way they do? They are getting rid of their greatest power for really nothing.
  • a_civiliana_civilian Likes seeing numbers Join Date: 2003-01-08 Member: 12041Members, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead
    edited October 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Eidolan+Oct 9 2003, 11:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Eidolan @ Oct 9 2003, 11:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Chould't the nano's just start a nuclear reaction if they CHOULD move things that small?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, they could initiate a fission reaction. [edit]They could also initiate a fusion reaction by using the energy released by a fission reaction.[/edit]
  • FieariFieari Join Date: 2002-10-22 Member: 1566Members, Constellation
    Actually, part of the backstory is that self-creating nanites are HEAVILY regulated with all kinds of restrictions to prevent various disasters, such as the deconstruction of an entire planet. Thus, the nanites CAN'T make more of themselves, because government regulations say you aren't allowed to program them to do that... the entire reason for nano-sludge. Which costs money. Which the TSA doesn't have. Bringing us back to the reason they have to tech up each time.
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    Why don't they recycle their weapons? Perhaps they're not licensed to carry them between jobs, as it were.
  • UnderDOGUnderDOG Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15221Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--a civilian+Oct 9 2003, 09:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (a civilian @ Oct 9 2003, 09:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They're not <i>that</i> small. They're nanobots, meaning their size is on the order of 10^-9 meters. The size of a subatomic particle, on the other hand, is on the order of 10^-15 meters. That's a million times smaller.
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    haha, funny, but i think your assuming that a "bot" is a about a meter is size, so if they have the prefix nano-, they must be 10^-9 meters
    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • A_N_T_SSpecOpsFreelancerA_N_T_SSpecOpsFreelancer Join Date: 2003-06-17 Member: 17420Members
    I belive I can sum up the answer with this example:
    The new Bond movie "Ice-fire"(or something like that)comes out.
    Audiences flock to see it. Half way through the movie Dr Evil Mc'Nevil,(hehehe) has Bond surrounded by his evil henchmen.
    Bond:"It looks like you've caught me"
    Dr Evil Mc'Nevil:"Indeed it has"
    Bond:"but tell me why do yo.." *BLAM*
    Bond falls dead as Dr Evil Mc'Nevil puts a bullet in Bond's brain.
    The movie ends with Dr Evil Mc'Nevil becoming ruler of the world.
    The ensuring riot destroyes the movie complex and chaos takes to the street.

    My point?.Dr Evil Mc'Nevil is a funny name..I mean the game wouldn't be fun if you could join and simply wipe out the Kharra in a few seconds or join the Kharra and swamp the marines with fully upgraded Onos.
  • TrojanTrojan Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4611Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--UnderDOG+Oct 10 2003, 02:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UnderDOG @ Oct 10 2003, 02:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--a civilian+Oct 9 2003, 09:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (a civilian @ Oct 9 2003, 09:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They're not <i>that</i> small.  They're nanobots, meaning their size is on the order of 10^-9 meters.  The size of a subatomic particle, on the other hand, is on the order of 10^-15 meters.  That's a million times smaller.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    haha, funny, but i think your assuming that a "bot" is a about a meter is size, so if they have the prefix nano-, they must be 10^-9 meters
    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm not so sure... But isn't that exactly what he just said?


    Also, most of this has already been answered, not only by the man. but also all the kind, kind people who have posted before me. Of course there's gonna be holes in the game and storyline, but its not totally about the storyline, that's just there to give the game a reason to be, the game itself is for fun and playing, no need to dig so deep into it <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I mean, look at quake and its storyline (found in the readme)... Just stuff show'd up so we're killing it. 'Course, atleast it has a storyline... *cough* q3a */cough*
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