<!--QuoteBegin--z.x. bogglestiensky+Aug 7 2003, 08:00 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (z.x. bogglestiensky @ Aug 7 2003, 08:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> *waves at the Americans from England, then thinks about Tony Blair and George Bush's relationship.*
damn. it'll be over here next.
*moves to Scotland, then waves to the Americans and the English* <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Er, Scotland may have its own devloved parliament but its still under Westminster controll. Still we can always declare independance and they cant touch us. Anyone I'd recomend Europe. You can move to all EU countries freely and get a job without any papewr work.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Infinitum *waves at the Americans from Australia*
Nemesis Zero *waves at the Americans from Germany.*
Comprox *waves at the Americans from Canada*
TychoCelchuuu *waves at Americans from Seattl... crap*
Dirty Harry Potter *waves at america from Denmark, hoping they will once destroy themselves...*
Jay123 *Waves at Americans from Scotland* <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What's with all the waveing? Yes, I see the sarcasm in it, but I, for one, wouldn't want those responsible for such a program to think even for a second they have supporters from around the globe.
*flips the bird at those Americans responsible, from Canada*
Hope Tony Bliar doesn't get any ideas about this when him and George are "spending friendly time" together. Everyone is waving so.. *Waves at everyone in America. Slowly walks to Scotland.*
<!--QuoteBegin--Sycophant+Aug 7 2003, 12:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sycophant @ Aug 7 2003, 12:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What's with all the waveing? Yes, I see the sarcasm in it, but I, for one, wouldn't want those responsible for such a program to think even for a second they have supporters from around the globe.
*flips the bird at those Americans responsible, from Canada* <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> we are not supporting, we are saying "hello, look at us we are free from your crazy government, they cant do anything, have fun!"
if we were supporting we would be saying *cheers the american goverment on from <country>*, speaking of which...
Nemesis Zero *waves at the Americans from Germany.*
Comprox *waves at the Americans from Canada*
TychoCelchuuu *waves at Americans from Seattl... crap*
Dirty Harry Potter *waves at america from Denmark, hoping they will once destroy themselves...*
Jay123 *Waves at Americans from Scotland* _____________________________________ I say: Heaven forbid anything be taken seriously . . . it's like here is a topic that could be taken seriously but no, all these people not from America just are like ha ha ha you fools, while all the people from America are like omg our country sucks I want to leave it forever! *sigh*
<!--QuoteBegin--Jin-Roh+Aug 7 2003, 12:42 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jin-Roh @ Aug 7 2003, 12:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--NSPlayaGirl+Aug 7 2003, 12:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NSPlayaGirl @ Aug 7 2003, 12:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think it's sad how all you americans want to just "flee to Canada," or move to some other country because of this (even if you are just joking). For school we had to go to a "Big Brother Technologies" seminar, which was basically a 3 hour talk on how little privacy we have in the U.S. Hearing things like this can be nerve racking but there are good things that come out of this stuff.... there has to be, or else they wouldn't have those kinda data banks. I mean this kinda crap the government pulls can be pretty damn scarry and intimidating but still, the U.S. is still a rockin' place to live. Be proud of where you're from. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
--Jane <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> damn straight. you just say it in a more positive manner than i do. and less b*tchy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> this is like danes moving to Sweden to get a lower Tax rate, and generally cheaper stuff, but i would never do that - they talk funny mommy /me puts finger in mouth and hides behind mommy D:
<!--QuoteBegin--Dirty Harry Potter+Aug 11 2003, 06:08 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dirty Harry Potter @ Aug 11 2003, 06:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Jin-Roh+Aug 7 2003, 12:42 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jin-Roh @ Aug 7 2003, 12:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--NSPlayaGirl+Aug 7 2003, 12:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NSPlayaGirl @ Aug 7 2003, 12:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think it's sad how all you americans want to just "flee to Canada," or move to some other country because of this (even if you are just joking). For school we had to go to a "Big Brother Technologies" seminar, which was basically a 3 hour talk on how little privacy we have in the U.S. Hearing things like this can be nerve racking but there are good things that come out of this stuff.... there has to be, or else they wouldn't have those kinda data banks. I mean this kinda crap the government pulls can be pretty damn scarry and intimidating but still, the U.S. is still a rockin' place to live. Be proud of where you're from. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
--Jane <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> damn straight. you just say it in a more positive manner than i do. and less b*tchy. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> this is like danes moving to Sweden to get a lower Tax rate, and generally cheaper stuff, but i would never do that - they talk funny mommy /me puts finger in mouth and hides behind mommy D:<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> As funny as that comment was... I give up with this post. *Sigh*
I mean couldn't, say Iran or Canada or Norway, declare that people are being oppressed in USA and start operation "USA freedom" and so forth. Attack USA without declaration of war because you don't need one if you are just freeing some people from a horrible dictator(Bush in this case).
That's what I'm wondering. Where goes the line of oppression?
AsranielJoin Date: 2002-06-03Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
"waves to the american from the top of a mountain in switzerland"
hehe *g*, well, i always said it, bush will take the USA down, but well well, you voted for him, its your problem. But im shure Mr. Evil will come very fast to us and close that topic because were nopt allowed to talk about american politics and.. yea well, how great bush is.. ;-) But im shure Mr. Evil can explain us why "the Matrix" is great for america and the security of everyone that lives there.
<!--QuoteBegin--Spooge+Aug 11 2003, 02:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spooge @ Aug 11 2003, 02:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Send over the troops. But don't expect them to come back. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Who's sending troops now? I'm just wondering wouldn't it be a "legimate" reason to attack USA.
<!--QuoteBegin--Asraniel+Posted on Aug 11 2003, 02:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Asraniel @ Posted on Aug 11 2003, 02:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->But im shure Mr. Evil can explain us why "the Matrix" is great for america and the security of everyone that lives there. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This isn't discussion forums indeed but if you noticed MonsE already commented...or sort of commented on the issue already.
tankefuglOne Script To Rule Them All...Trondheim, NorwayJoin Date: 2002-11-14Member: 8641Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
I am from Norway and declare that USA is oppressing its people. I'll start operation "Frihetens undulat!" any time soon.
But on a more serious note: I see the sad comedy of the paranoid US every day in the media. "Patriot" has become the word of the brainwashed, and I've got a disgust for the use of flags in every possible occation. Operation "enduring freedom" is a cliché (And I won't even mention freedom fries. Oh, bugger.), and Total Information Awareness on top of it all just makes the comedy complete.
Who would not laugh?
Then there is "Be proud of your country!". Sure, be that. But that does not make every political action right. "There must be a good reason..." is also the argument of the naïve.
The most terrifying part of it all is that US got such a influence over the rest of the world, that whatever happens over the atlantic from here <i>will</i> have consequences for us, in one or another way. Yes, that scares me.
AsranielJoin Date: 2002-06-03Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
well spoken, i cannot see flags any more, even our own swiss flag is a problem for me. Shure, be proud to be in your country but just because someone says the he is it to it doesent mean that everything hes doing is right... I wont make any comparisaion here, but a long time ago.. in a european country there was also someone that said that he is a patriot and he loves hes country.. we all know what happend. But well, i dont mind if the american have things like "the Matrix" or this funny patriotic act (hey, its theyr choice), as long as they dont come tu us europeans with it
MATRIX (incidentally I hate contrived acronyms) is just a system consolidating a load of info enforcement agencies could get if they wanted anyway. I'm I missing something here ?
For those of you waving to americans from canada, or americans thinking of moving to canada, do know that canada long had such a database. It contained more entries than living canadian citizens (they dont take you out even if you died), and has over 2000 items per entry (they have over 2000 piece of info about you).
You think the Matrix is scary? Welcome to Canada! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Please note that this database has been dismantled a while ago, but the mere existance of it is interesting enough.</span>
/me grabs a gun. DIDNT EXPECT THAT NOW DIDJA!? <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
Im confused why are people that are worried about thier first amendment leaving the US for nations where certian channels get banned such as NASA tv, or where if you say something that is against what most people believe about the holocaust you go to jail for, "incitement to hatred"?
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<!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
damn. it'll be over here next.
*moves to Scotland, then waves to the Americans and the English*
damn. it'll be over here next.
*moves to Scotland, then waves to the Americans and the English* <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Er, Scotland may have its own devloved parliament but its still under Westminster controll.
Still we can always declare independance and they cant touch us.
Anyone I'd recomend Europe. You can move to all EU countries freely and get a job without any papewr work.
*Waves again to The Americains From Scotland*
Infinitum
*waves at the Americans from Australia*
Nemesis Zero
*waves at the Americans from Germany.*
Comprox
*waves at the Americans from Canada*
TychoCelchuuu
*waves at Americans from Seattl... crap*
Dirty Harry Potter
*waves at america from Denmark, hoping they will once destroy themselves...*
Jay123
*Waves at Americans from Scotland*
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What's with all the waveing? Yes, I see the sarcasm in it, but I, for one, wouldn't want those responsible for such a program to think even for a second they have supporters from around the globe.
*flips the bird at those Americans responsible, from Canada*
Everyone is waving so..
*Waves at everyone in America. Slowly walks to Scotland.*
*flips the bird at those Americans responsible, from Canada* <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
we are not supporting, we are saying "hello, look at us we are free from your crazy government, they cant do anything, have fun!"
if we were supporting we would be saying *cheers the american goverment on from <country>*, speaking of which...
*cheers the american goverment on from England*
Infinitum
*waves at the Americans from Australia*
Nemesis Zero
*waves at the Americans from Germany.*
Comprox
*waves at the Americans from Canada*
TychoCelchuuu
*waves at Americans from Seattl... crap*
Dirty Harry Potter
*waves at america from Denmark, hoping they will once destroy themselves...*
Jay123
*Waves at Americans from Scotland*
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I say: Heaven forbid anything be taken seriously . . . it's like here is a topic that could be taken seriously but no, all these people not from America just are like ha ha ha you fools, while all the people from America are like omg our country sucks I want to leave it forever! *sigh*
--Jane
i though that word got censored on the swear filter.
what does it mean? does anyone on these forums know what "serious" means?
please help
/poorattemptathumour
i see your point Jane, but you cant expect a bunch of hormonally super-saturated immature blokes to take anything seriously
--Jane <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
damn straight. you just say it in a more positive manner than i do. and less b*tchy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
this is like danes moving to Sweden to get a lower Tax rate, and generally cheaper stuff, but i would never do that - they talk funny mommy /me puts finger in mouth and hides behind mommy D:
--Jane <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
damn straight. you just say it in a more positive manner than i do. and less b*tchy. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
this is like danes moving to Sweden to get a lower Tax rate, and generally cheaper stuff, but i would never do that - they talk funny mommy /me puts finger in mouth and hides behind mommy D:<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
As funny as that comment was... I give up with this post. *Sigh*
--Jane <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
I mean couldn't, say Iran or Canada or Norway, declare that people are being oppressed in USA and start operation "USA freedom" and so forth. Attack USA without declaration of war because you don't need one if you are just freeing some people from a horrible dictator(Bush in this case).
That's what I'm wondering. Where goes the line of oppression?
hehe *g*, well, i always said it, bush will take the USA down, but well well, you voted for him, its your problem. But im shure Mr. Evil will come very fast to us and close that topic because were nopt allowed to talk about american politics and.. yea well, how great bush is.. ;-)
But im shure Mr. Evil can explain us why "the Matrix" is great for america and the security of everyone that lives there.
Who's sending troops now? I'm just wondering wouldn't it be a "legimate" reason to attack USA.
<!--QuoteBegin--Asraniel+Posted on Aug 11 2003, 02:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Asraniel @ Posted on Aug 11 2003, 02:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->But im shure Mr. Evil can explain us why "the Matrix" is great for america and the security of everyone that lives there. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This isn't discussion forums indeed but if you noticed MonsE already commented...or sort of commented on the issue already.
But on a more serious note: I see the sad comedy of the paranoid US every day in the media. "Patriot" has become the word of the brainwashed, and I've got a disgust for the use of flags in every possible occation. Operation "enduring freedom" is a cliché (And I won't even mention freedom fries. Oh, bugger.), and Total Information Awareness on top of it all just makes the comedy complete.
Who would not laugh?
Then there is "Be proud of your country!". Sure, be that. But that does not make every political action right. "There must be a good reason..." is also the argument of the naïve.
The most terrifying part of it all is that US got such a influence over the rest of the world, that whatever happens over the atlantic from here <i>will</i> have consequences for us, in one or another way. Yes, that scares me.
MATRIX (incidentally I hate contrived acronyms) is just a system consolidating a load of info enforcement agencies could get if they wanted anyway. I'm I missing something here ?
You think the Matrix is scary? Welcome to Canada! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Please note that this database has been dismantled a while ago, but the mere existance of it is interesting enough.</span>