A Gun Question

BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
What exactly is a 'twenty-two'? Is it a rifle or something?
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  • Ph0enixPh0enix Join Date: 2002-10-08 Member: 1462Members, Constellation
    It's a calibre. .22 of an inch.
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    Or a 22mm bullet.. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SBV+Jun 27 2003, 12:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SBV @ Jun 27 2003, 12:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Or a 22mm bullet.. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    beat me to it heh
  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    Right. Thanks for that.
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SBV+Jun 27 2003, 12:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SBV @ Jun 27 2003, 12:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Or a 22mm bullet.. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    last time I checked 22mm was around 9 inches...

    a "twenty two" is .22 INCHES in reference to it's diameter, NOT 22mm.
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    Last time i checked, 22mm was 2.2cm.
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--SBV+Jun 27 2003, 01:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SBV @ Jun 27 2003, 01:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Last time i checked, 22mm was 2.2cm. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Haha. Pwned. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> Yes, 22 mm is 2.2 CM. Pistol bullet, I suppose?
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SBV+Jun 27 2003, 12:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SBV @ Jun 27 2003, 12:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Last time i checked, 22mm was 2.2cm. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    woops, my bad on the decimal place.. but regaurdless 2.2cm is almost and inch in diameter, which is off by a factor of 4 or so.
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--404NotFound+Jun 27 2003, 12:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (404NotFound @ Jun 27 2003, 12:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--SBV+Jun 27 2003, 12:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SBV @ Jun 27 2003, 12:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Or a 22mm bullet..  <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    last time I checked 22mm was around 9 inches...

    a "twenty two" is .22 INCHES in reference to it's diameter, NOT 22mm. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It was joke lamer, 22mm is huge arsed ammo used by apaches and such.
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--CForrester+Jun 27 2003, 12:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Jun 27 2003, 12:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--SBV+Jun 27 2003, 01:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SBV @ Jun 27 2003, 01:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Last time i checked, 22mm was 2.2cm. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Haha. Pwned. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> Yes, 22 mm is 2.2 CM. Pistol bullet, I suppose? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    that would be an .86 calibur bullet.. currently the largest handgun (and most rifle) round is .50 calibur (or half an inch)
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+Jun 27 2003, 12:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Jun 27 2003, 12:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--404NotFound+Jun 27 2003, 12:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (404NotFound @ Jun 27 2003, 12:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--SBV+Jun 27 2003, 12:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SBV @ Jun 27 2003, 12:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Or a 22mm bullet..  <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    last time I checked 22mm was around 9 inches...

    a "twenty two" is .22 INCHES in reference to it's diameter, NOT 22mm. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It was joke lamer, 22mm is huge arsed ammo used by apaches and such. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I can't detect sarcasm in text. If you ask a serious question with no hint of a joke then I assume that it's real ignorance when factual errors are made.
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    I added the "heh" how much of a joke indicator do you need, jesus.....

    I was replying on the assumption that SBV was joking, and if he wasn't oh well.
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    Children, children. Play nice, now. You wouldn't want the moderators to lock this thread and temp ban you guys, now would you? Now run along and play in the sand box. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    (Note: Just kidding about the sand box thing. You'll get sand in your pance, and nobody likes that.)
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    That wasn't even flamey, and what did nem say about playing moderator hmmm?
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    *fires a 22 mm handgun*
    *watches his hand get torn apart and the gun leave a dent in the wall behind him*
  • SaltySalty Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6970Members
    <img src='http://www.outlandsales.com/new_tracer.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+Jun 27 2003, 01:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Jun 27 2003, 01:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That wasn't even flamey, and what did nem say about playing moderator hmmm? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That wasn't my intention. It was just an attempt at getting you to stop arguing, so that the moderators wouldn't have to, and would have less stress on them.
  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    .22... Isn't that like the eqivalent of 9mm? I find it very annoying to convert the American calibers into the metric system. You're not going to see a 22mm handgun any time soon. I recently visited an Army/Navy surplus store where they were selling inert 20mm rounds. I picked one up, it was about 10cm long and 3cm wide at the largest point. Wouldn't want to get hit by one of those. As for the Apache, I beleive they use a 70mm cannon that most people simply call a machine gun because it's automatic.
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--TommyVercetti+Jun 27 2003, 12:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Jun 27 2003, 12:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> .22... Isn't that like the eqivalent of 9mm? I find it very annoying to convert the American calibers into the metric system. You're not going to see a 22mm handgun any time soon. I recently visited an Army/Navy surplus store where they were selling inert 20mm rounds. I picked one up, it was about 10cm long and 3cm wide at the largest point. Wouldn't want to get hit by one of those. As for the Apache, I beleive they use a 70mm cannon that most people simply call a machine gun because it's automatic. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yah your right I was thinking of the police choppers whose names alude me right now, apaches use ammo longer than your hand that turn people into lunchable meat in a matter of seconds.

    Of course there's always the 150 mm ammo.

    <img src='http://www.army-technology.com/contractor_images/royal_ordnance/royal2s.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--TommyVercetti+Jun 27 2003, 01:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Jun 27 2003, 01:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> .22... Isn't that like the eqivalent of 9mm? I find it very annoying to convert the American calibers into the metric system. You're not going to see a 22mm handgun any time soon. I recently visited an Army/Navy surplus store where they were selling inert 20mm rounds. I picked one up, it was about 10cm long and 3cm wide at the largest point. Wouldn't want to get hit by one of those. As for the Apache, I beleive they use a 70mm cannon that most people simply call a machine gun because it's automatic. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nope. 5.56MM.

    .223 == 5.56 == standard NATO rifle round diameter. 20MM would be nearly 1 inch (12.7MM == .50 caliber). Because the caliber system came long before the metric system (and long before America, euro-goons - it's european), it is the standard that the metric was adopted to.

    The Apache Helicopter uses a 25MM chain-driven cannon. The use of the word cannon versus machine gun is largely blurred. Usually when a shell-launching weapon stops being man-portable, it becomes referred to a cannon. At least in my experience as an infantryman.

    Carry on, draft dodgers...
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Jun 27 2003, 01:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Jun 27 2003, 01:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--TommyVercetti+Jun 27 2003, 01:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Jun 27 2003, 01:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> .22... Isn't that like the eqivalent of 9mm? I find it very annoying to convert the American calibers into the metric system. You're not going to see a 22mm handgun any time soon. I recently visited an Army/Navy surplus store where they were selling inert 20mm rounds. I picked one up, it was about 10cm long and 3cm wide at the largest point. Wouldn't want to get hit by one of those. As for the Apache, I beleive they use a 70mm cannon that most people simply call a machine gun because it's automatic. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nope. 5.56MM.

    .223 == 5.56 == standard NATO rifle round diameter. 20MM would be nearly 1 inch (12.7MM == .50 caliber). Because the caliber system came long before the metric system (and long before America, euro-goons - it's european), it is the standard that the metric was adopted to.

    The Apache Helicopter uses a 25MM chain-driven cannon. The use of the word cannon versus machine gun is largely blurred. Usually when a shell-launching weapon stops being man-portable, it becomes referred to a cannon. At least in my experience as an infantryman.

    Carry on, draft dodgers... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hey man I was up to my chest in rice paddies wadding through mud with my m-16 above my head with no orders other than to stay alive and keep the perimeter from collapsing. I watched my buddies die face down in the mud, I lost my foot cause I stepped on a VC crap stick, and damn near got my face blown off after some volunteer stuck a mortar round into a tube that was almost melting.


    /disclaimer/ none of that was true /disclaimer/
  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Jun 27 2003, 01:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Jun 27 2003, 01:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--TommyVercetti+Jun 27 2003, 01:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Jun 27 2003, 01:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> .22... Isn't that like the eqivalent of 9mm? I find it very annoying to convert the American calibers into the metric system. You're not going to see a 22mm handgun any time soon. I recently visited an Army/Navy surplus store where they were selling inert 20mm rounds. I picked one up, it was about 10cm long and 3cm wide at the largest point. Wouldn't want to get hit by one of those. As for the Apache, I beleive they use a 70mm cannon that most people simply call a machine gun because it's automatic. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nope. 5.56MM.

    .223 == 5.56 == standard NATO rifle round diameter. 20MM would be nearly 1 inch (12.7MM == .50 caliber). Because the caliber system came long before the metric system (and long before America, euro-goons - it's european), it is the standard that the metric was adopted to.

    The Apache Helicopter uses a 25MM chain-driven cannon. The use of the word cannon versus machine gun is largely blurred. Usually when a shell-launching weapon stops being man-portable, it becomes referred to a cannon. At least in my experience as an infantryman.

    Carry on, draft dodgers... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ah 5.56mm. I know about that. Cheers.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Once again, I'm in awe of the detail knowledge people can have about this kind of thing.

    You: "Yeah, that's 13.37 ammo, it's used for mounted machineguns, amphibic vehicle defense, and as makeshift toothpicks."

    Me: "That's the side pointing at the enemy, right?"
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Nemesis Zero+Jun 27 2003, 02:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jun 27 2003, 02:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Once again, I'm in awe of the detail knowledge people can have about this kind of thing.

    You: "Yeah, that's 13.37 ammo, it's used for mounted machineguns, amphibic vehicle defense, and as makeshift toothpicks."

    Me: "That's the side pointing at the enemy, right?" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    hahahaha <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> yeah.. i love this topic.. its very amusing
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jay123+Jun 27 2003, 01:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jay123 @ Jun 27 2003, 01:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Jun 27 2003, 01:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Jun 27 2003, 01:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--TommyVercetti+Jun 27 2003, 01:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Jun 27 2003, 01:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> .22... Isn't that like the eqivalent of 9mm? I find it very annoying to convert the American calibers into the metric system. You're not going to see a 22mm handgun any time soon. I recently visited an Army/Navy surplus store where they were selling inert 20mm rounds. I picked one up, it was about 10cm long and 3cm wide at the largest point. Wouldn't want to get hit by one of those. As for the Apache, I beleive they use a 70mm cannon that most people simply call a machine gun because it's automatic. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nope. 5.56MM.

    .223 == 5.56 == standard NATO rifle round diameter. 20MM would be nearly 1 inch (12.7MM == .50 caliber). Because the caliber system came long before the metric system (and long before America, euro-goons - it's european), it is the standard that the metric was adopted to.

    The Apache Helicopter uses a 25MM chain-driven cannon. The use of the word cannon versus machine gun is largely blurred. Usually when a shell-launching weapon stops being man-portable, it becomes referred to a cannon. At least in my experience as an infantryman.

    Carry on, draft dodgers... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ah 5.56mm. I know about that. Cheers. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yah space time slip stream theory. I know about that. Cheers.
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    Dont forget there is a .22 "long" and a .22 "short.

    The pistol .22 round is smaller then the .22 rifle round in terms of casing and the such.
  • BadKarmaBadKarma The Advanced Literature monsters burned my house and gave me a 7 Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8260Members
    .22 comes in differant types too. .22 LR, .22BB, .22 short,.22 magnum, .22 hornet ecetera. And I think 9mm is in the .35 ballpark. And I dont think that it's just straight metric conversion. I think .223 is measured from groove to groove and 5.56mm is measured from land to land.
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    also make note that a .223 is a rifle round that is bottlenecked to the bullet tip while a .22 (either short, long, long rifle, etc) is more of a rifle/pistol round that is much less powerful.
  • Brave_UlyssesBrave_Ulysses Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15922Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Jun 27 2003, 01:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Jun 27 2003, 01:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Carry on, draft dodgers... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
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