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Dread

<!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+May 20 2003, 06:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ May 20 2003, 06:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Dern rapscallions, this'all teech ye's to paw my appals! *boom* Come back here you's varments! *boom*

Umm the law differs from state to state, but yep in a lot of them it's legal to shoot trespassers. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
sorry for OT still but...you call USA a country of justice? Hell, now I know never to go there without proper Kevlar.

dr_d

Where's the lack of justice in shooting someone who enters your home illegally, in most cases to take your things without consent, and mostly likely willing to harm you to get them. People are violent everywhere just face it, and America has some of the greatest personal freedoms. I enjoy being able to be a citizen here and able to completely disagree with the goverment's policies, with the country's corperate infrastructure, protest against things openly, even make indirect threats against the goverment, and after all that still be able to own a firearm. In some countries the first two can get you killed/deported, and the third one can easily get you arrested.


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Legionnaired

I don't care wether you let me defnd my home with a gun or a sword, I'm doing so with the biggest weapon I can. Not because I'm violent, because I'm protective. Or, at least, I believe people should be able to. I personally don't own a gun and probably never will.

Oh, and....

Prawned.

<a href='http://www.msnbc.com/news/914527.asp?cp1=1' target='_blank'>http://www.msnbc.com/news/914527.asp?cp1=1</a>

<a href='http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3042907.stm' target='_blank'>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3042907.stm</a>

Moquiao

omg dont diss barney!

Salty

<!--QuoteBegin--Nemesis Zero+May 20 2003, 11:49 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ May 20 2003, 11:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Plus, imagine hearing real loud Metal for (seemingly) 24/7. Believe me, it'd get to your nerves. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Didn't some police officers in Germany threaten another German citizen with torture in order to get information out of him?

<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->sorry for OT still but...you call USA a country of justice? Hell, now I know never to go there without proper Kevlar. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Well if your going to be breaking into somebodies home then don't come.

eggmac

<!--QuoteBegin--Salty+May 20 2003, 11:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Salty @ May 20 2003, 11:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
Didn't some police officers in Germany threaten another German citizen with torture in order to get information out of him?

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yep.

Okabore

<!--QuoteBegin--eggmac+May 20 2003, 05:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eggmac @ May 20 2003, 05:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Salty+May 20 2003, 11:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Salty @ May 20 2003, 11:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
Didn't some police officers in Germany threaten another German citizen with torture in order to get information out of him?

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yep. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Real question is: Did he get away with it and will the ones in the US get away with it?
The important thing is not wheter people do this thing or not. I'm sad to say that people probably allways will do mean, cruel and evil things to each other. The important thing is wheter or not they can go unpunished for what they did.

Salty

<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Deputy Chief of Police Daschner personally acknowledged the order to use force in the record of the investigation, and informed the public prosecutor’s office about his action. He defended his behaviour with reference to a “justifiable emergency”. In several interviews, he stressed that in a comparable situation he would do the same again. Moreover, in an interview with the magazine Focus he called for a change in the law. “The use of force as a last means, in order to save lives, must also be permitted during interrogation,” Daschner said. “For some time, many criminal investigators have been calling for an appropriate change in the law.”<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

--http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/mar2003/tort-m08.shtml

And yes I do know the site is socialist biased.

Burr

umm, the home invasion thing I think at least in Ohio you can shoot them if

A: You think they have a gun/weapon
B: If they don't have a gun but they have you cornered

Of cousre, its for a judge to decide if it was self defense or not.