Cheating Death
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Join Date: 2003-05-05 Member: 16075Members
Join Date: 2003-05-05 Member: 16075Members
<div class="IPBDescription">What does it do/beneficial?</div> I downloaded cheating death, and ever since i got it I wondered, What does it do? It doesn't enhance gameplay, and it is constantly being updated. I just don't know why we need it besides kicking hacks? Is this supposed to be in off-topic?
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It's something that lets us be assured that hacks aren't being used, even though if people want to cheat enough then they will.
Kicking them requires detecting them first. C-D doesn't detect anything, it disables key features of cheats so they don't work anymore. You run the program to prove that you are not cheating.
Its not bad to kicking cheats... dont you think?
it forces people to accept that you are not cheating,
and it just makes you look like u are genuine in general (thats very vague).
and it allows u onto some pretty good server. without being kicked
so its pretty useful
BACK! BACK EVIL KITAE!
*HISS! RAWR!*
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in a nutshell thou, it makes it so that cheats don't help you. They will still "work" as in they will still run, but they won't do you any good.
Ex, CD can tell if somone is not visible due to a wall being in the way, if this is so, it makes believe the person is behind you (outside your Field of View), so *if* you were using a wall hack, the walls still appear transparent, but no one will appear to be behind it
The bad thing is that sometimes it laggs on some computers <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> like mine . I've tried the help of C-D but still laggs a bit.
Honestly ? The first use of it is to prevent new or non - regular players from entering good public servers , to make them have to play NS at least 9 hours per day before being able to play with elitist "veterans". It also helps counterstrike converts rambos remain unchallenged by actual cheaters when they use pistol scripts while staying crouched.
Cheating Death really clears any pub server's filth , since only the most courageous player will contact the server admin to retrieve the right CD version after being kicked 2047 times because of reserved slots. HL guard and other server mods couldn't perform such a task.
for sure, nothing is 100%, ive seen one or two cheaters using certain kinds of cheats that CD cant stop, but for blockinh 95% of the working cheats, it is invaluable.
CD works. maybe not 100% but thats no reason to dis it.
<!--QuoteBegin--Trini+ May 12 2003, 01:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Trini @ May 12 2003, 01:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The bad thing is that sometimes it laggs on some computers? like mine . I've tried the help of C-D but still laggs a bit.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
C-D only sends 22 BYTES... now if that laggs your comp then you need new internet.... it sends that so that the server will know what C-D knows (basically if you are cheating or not) unfortunaly people still hack C-D but luckily soon enough C-D will have an update that fixes that. now if the cheaters wanna create a new hack like every week.... then they need to go back to school <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
also, every time the middle digit changes (version 2.10.1 versus version 2.9.1) the information it sends to the server changes, so OGC is going to ahve to update their hack every time CD updates, which isnt likely to happen.
BACK! BACK EVIL KITAE!
*HISS! RAWR!* <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can see we are failing to keep the ignorance at bay.
one big paragraph... thnx
<i><b>i would say about 80% of the popular servers i join have at least 2 hacker on at all times!!!....</b></i>
dont play on badly admined servers then, or join only CDreq servers <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
<b><i>we all know how hard it is to fly let alone bite at the same time with such accuracy as a lerk</i></b>
Anyone with jump bound to a key that isn't mouse2 shouldn't have too much dificulty flying and biting at the same time, same goes for jping.
<b><i>there isnt a single hack that will work with CD this is a fact!</i></b>
There are plenty of things that you're not supposed to do in NS that work with CD. SBhopping etc.
you know those people that just dont seem to miss and follow your every move and use just the right amount of ammo to kill you every time....ok well these people are hacking and thats a fact!
have you ever had a lurk swoop in and bite you while he was flying at full speed, and we all know how hard it is to fly let alone bite at the same time with such accuracy as a lerk...well this guy is hacking plane and simple.
i would personally like to see the ns community make it mandatory for all ns servers to use CD but i know theres no way in hell this will ever happen, because certain clans would all of a sudden lose a lot of so called L337 members.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hmmm.. Just a reminder that sometimes that ammo-rationing marine or that fly-by-bite lerk is actually skilled. Yes, I know its hard for most of you guys to believe, but there are people in the world that are actually good at playing video games. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
<span style='color:red'><b>I've seen far more false accusations of hacking than actual hackers. This insecurity is more hurtful to the community that the hackers themselves.</b></span>
Hacking isn't as widespread as he claims, trust a reputable source on this. Please be sure you don't use this thread as an excuse for accusing every skilled player you see of hacking.
about 80% of the popular servers i join have at least 2 hacker on at all times
these people are hacking and thats a fact!
there isnt a single hack that will work with CD this is a fact! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
*Sigh*
Kids
Oh, and please don't misuse the term hacker. Most cheaters can't hack as they aren't very intelligent.
Hacking isn't as widespread as he claims, trust a reputable source on this. Please be sure you don't use this thread as an excuse for excusing every skilled player you see of hacking. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I so agree with that...
Huh? Virtually all CD clients are backwards compatible with older server versions, so a user who wants it just gets the newest one. (For obvious reasons, the reverse does not hold true.)
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've tried the help of C-D but still laggs a bit. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Have you tried the cd_fps cvars and such? As for CD impacting net performance... The sock puppets take over here.
<!--c1--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->Server Sock:"Are you running CD? Prove it... tell me the answer to... This question."
Client Sock: "Uh... The answer is 48. And I could only know that if I'm either the real CD or I'm a hacked version."
Server Sock: "Okay... you're clear... But what if you *were* a hacked version or a cheat to bypass the security?"
Client Sock: "Then it's your fault for not updating yourself to get the *new* question-and-answer codes."
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That's all it does---hardly any detailed or lengthy communication.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->cuz CD dont stop speedhacks, his guns put out more shells than his teammates, no amount of skill can make the LMG cone spray more accurate if you know what i mean. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actually, it does stop several outdated speedhacks. I'm not sure about the current situation however. As for putting out more shells... Have you actually done any research on your own here? With my FPS capped down to 30 or so, it takes something like 9.68 seconds for me to empty an HMG on full-auto.... At 100 FPS, it takes me 7.77 seconds. Oh my goodness! I'm cheating <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> As for the cone... even if he had a cheat the only way to make the cone spray less in NS would be to exploit a bug on the server---you just can't do it from clientside... I'd say it's in your mind.
Kind of sad that not only are they too bad at the game they need to cheat, they're ALSO too bad at understanding/learning to 'hack' themselves. Double failure really.
Oh, and CD is intended to stop the lagging script kiddies. It will not stop that 2% of 'real' hackers, nor will it prevent those script kiddies that keep up to date. You know how long it takes after a CD update for the hacks to get updated? Maybe 30 seconds.
Try this:
When you play, people greet you, never accuse you, listen to you. The occasionnal accuser notices nobody else even suspects you, in fact they might even defend you.
Now say you have work to do, something any excuse. Change your name and join the same server. You'll notice that (even if you get the exact same playstyle, etc...) you are accused, ignored and only so few players don't think you're cheating. With the exact same ratio/helpfulness/tactics, you get from respected to accused.
Now next time you accuse someone of cheating, please know what you're talking about.
No-one needs an excuse for being skilled, surely? :P
Comm: "head to cargo bay for me"
Player: "Where is that?" *pow* *pow* 5 skulks dead.
Alien1: "OMG WTH M4D H4X!!!!2@#@1one!"
Comm: "..."
Player: "oh you mean one of those big rooms with one of those invisable things in it? Gimme one of those blue things to it."
Chances are most "cheaters" wouldn't know the map to the slightest degree.
But then i've only seen one player do this, and this is roughly how that conversation took place.