Now That Ns Is Going To Reach Rts

ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody's near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">levels of Strategy quality....</div> Does that mean you'll have to...

A) Fork out £20 extra in 3 months, as they release an 'expansion pack'

*Expansion Pack : Noun. A group of patches, generally which should have been released free as they would comprise intelligent beta testing anyway, compiled onto a CD & released with a rehash campaign & several units that were orignally phased out for <b>a reason</b>


*Cough* Blizzard *Cough Cough*
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  • CobyCoby Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8210Members
    edited April 2003
    I may start a conversation if you tell me what is "rts" <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    [EDIT]You finally changed the damned "pokemon" avatar of yours Shockwave <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    RTS = Real Time Strategy

    Flayra stated numerous time that "NS will always be free", but nobody here will be angry at you if you send him the dough anyway..
  • PetitMortePetitMorte Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7232Members
    Real Time Strategy


    post++
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->*Expansion Pack : Noun. A group of patches, generally which should have been released free as they would comprise intelligent beta testing anyway, compiled onto a CD & released with a rehash campaign & several units that were orignally phased out for a reason<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Obviously the "reason" was to suck more money out of people. GG Blizzard. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CobyCoby Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8210Members
    edited April 2003
    Thank you, I should've known that...

    *bangs head on the table*
  • Ben128Ben128 Join Date: 2002-06-21 Member: 808Members, Constellation
    Dont take this too harshly, but you were not force to pay money to buy an expansion. So no use comparing it to that, and also, NS is in a totally different Ocean, let alone a different boat than any other current RTS.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    By the way, I'm currently playing through the Brood War campaigns again. Personally, I'll take a Blizzard expansion pack over 90% of the full price games out there.
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    Don't get me wrong, Blizzard makes quality products, but the whole wc3 thing left a bad taste in my mouth. The way it went from a massive game to 3 races and an expansion pack. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • PegenatorPegenator Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11269Members
    What's wrong with earning your money?

    (By charging for updates? Well, if you ask me, if you BUY an update you must be really stupid.
    That makes me stupid, because I am going to by the WC3 addon.)
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    no expansion pack is worse than 'the Sims' line of trash. Basically you pay £40 for the same game every time, but with a new 'feature'
  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    edited April 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The way it went from a massive game to 3 races and an expansion pack<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What now ?

    Well you gotta admire their ability to stay on the top ten list of sold PC games with at least one title at all times for several years selling packeted junk <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You finally changed the damned "pokemon" avatar of yours Shockwave<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Did I? I never had a Pokemon one....

    On the slightly serious slant of this thread, I generally find expansions to be quite bad, for the above reasons. And they do 'force' you to buy it, if you play any multiplayer, (not just Bliz) because have you (for example)

    Tried to find a decent game of Shogun with people who don't use Mongol Invasion? It just doesn't happen.
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Shockwave+Apr 16 2003, 10:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Apr 16 2003, 10:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You finally changed the damned "pokemon" avatar of yours Shockwave<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Did I? I never had a Pokemon one.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sad when people can't tell an Eva from a pikachu...
  • DrSuredeathDrSuredeath Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8217Members
    You will bash the Sims over my dead body

    <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DaxxDaxx Join Date: 2002-04-16 Member: 460Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--Shockwave+Apr 16 2003, 08:29 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Apr 16 2003, 08:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Does that mean you'll have to...

    A) Fork out £20 extra in 3 months, as they release an 'expansion pack'

    *Expansion Pack : Noun. A group of patches, generally which should have been released free as they would comprise intelligent beta testing anyway, compiled onto a CD & released with a rehash campaign & several units that were orignally phased out for <b>a reason</b>


    *Cough* Blizzard *Cough Cough* <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sorry, but I'm not really following you here. You've never paid for NS, so why would you have to pay for "updates".


    Hell, NS <b>is</b> and expansion pack, for Half Life. Sure you can donate to the team, but afaik there are no plans to make it a pay game.
  • DizzyOneDizzyOne BASS&#33; Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9095Members
    Every expansion I have buyed before was very satisfying (especially multiplayer), like W2: beyond the darkportal, SC: broodwar, D2: LOD and a few others i forgot, so why would <b>this</b> addon be a waste of ur cash?
  • KazyrasKazyras Join Date: 2002-11-23 Member: 9722Members
    War2: BTDP was a horrific expansion multiplayer-wise solely because it contained that thrice damned friends.pud which greatly popularized money maps. =[
  • BarxBaronBarxBaron Join Date: 2003-02-02 Member: 13031Members
    edited April 2003
    wc3 is crap compared to star craft......sad but true

    its still not even balanced ......and thats sad......we are talking about blizzard which is the best RTS maker balance wise imo (SC:BW was practically perfect)
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    *Sigh*

    I miss the days where people took a light hearted dig <b>lightly</b>.

    Oh, and for Suredeath...

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You will bash the Sims over my dead body
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Where would you like the bullethole?
  • rsdrsd Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13405Members
    I think anyone who seriously enjoys NS would happily pay for it, I know I would. There has never been another game I have played so much.
  • fewfew Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15128Members
    edited April 2003
    yah considering that the download for the "new" blizzard expansion pack<span style='color:yellow'> beta</span> is about 6.78 megs in total size tells us a little, that i do not know


    edit: had to put blizzard in there...
  • fewfew Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MMZ>Torak+Apr 16 2003, 08:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MMZ>Torak @ Apr 16 2003, 08:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Don't get me wrong, Blizzard makes quality products, but the whole wc3 thing left a bad taste in my mouth.  The way it went from a massive game to 3 races and an expansion pack. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    theres 4 races dare buddy <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> humans, orkz, night elves, and undead <span style='color:yellow'> hehehehe <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--></span>
  • KeyserKeyser Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13591Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Shockwave+Apr 16 2003, 01:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Apr 16 2003, 01:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You will bash the Sims over my dead body
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Where would you like the bullethole? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    My thoughts exactly, thats not a very wise comment to make <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    hey i forked out £20 for brood war when it came out... I still play it on occasion lol
  • CowswinCowswin Join Date: 2003-03-17 Member: 14623Banned, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Keyser59+Apr 16 2003, 03:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Keyser59 @ Apr 16 2003, 03:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Shockwave+Apr 16 2003, 01:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Apr 16 2003, 01:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You will bash the Sims over my dead body
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Where would you like the bullethole? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    My thoughts exactly, thats not a very wise comment to make <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Bullethole? I think I'd use a wooden spoon to carve the heart out of a Sim lover.

    Bleh, my wife loves the Sims, go fig, silly girls <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CutterJoeCutterJoe Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11594Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Twisted Master+Apr 16 2003, 05:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Twisted Master @ Apr 16 2003, 05:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Keyser59+Apr 16 2003, 03:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Keyser59 @ Apr 16 2003, 03:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Shockwave+Apr 16 2003, 01:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Apr 16 2003, 01:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You will bash the Sims over my dead body
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Where would you like the bullethole? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    My thoughts exactly, thats not a very wise comment to make <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Bullethole? I think I'd use a wooden spoon to carve the heart out of a Sim lover.

    Bleh, my wife loves the Sims, go fig, silly girls <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    HA HA HA yea twisted my wife loves that junk too. I really dont get trying to control a computer generated person that doesnt speak any known language. But oh well I think sims is a sad attempt at a game but thats just my opinion <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • XaniethXanieth Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7280Members
    The Sims is the game for people who can't play real games.
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--few+Apr 16 2003, 03:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (few @ Apr 16 2003, 03:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> yah considering that the download for the "new" blizzard expansion pack<span style='color:yellow'> beta</span> is about 6.78 megs in total size tells us a little, that i do not know


    edit: had to put blizzard in there... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's a patch that allows you to connect to the beta servers and download the rest of the expansion pack as a patch.
  • CalantusCalantus Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14823Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Coby+Apr 16 2003, 08:34 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Coby @ Apr 16 2003, 08:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Thank you, I should've known that...

    *bangs head on the table* <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Heh, I've played RTS's for ages and I didn't get it. I thought it was RTs (Resource Towers) and I was like "WTH? What does this have to do with expansion packs". Heh, RTS should be all in caps IMO, never would have thought of it before, but now with NS... gah.

    btw, nothing wrong with expansion packs. SC:BW has already been brought up and that is posibly the best expansion pack ever. I'd also bring AoK:TC to the table. If ever there was a good expansion pack, it was this one.

    Also, you guys are forgetting that these developers and publishers, are companies. You're not going to get free updates forever ya'know. Buying that expansion secures an extra year or so of updates. Otherwise the developer would just drop the damn thing. It's capitolist, and it aint nice, but that's the way it works. People need to eat, and developers are people too. So there.
  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    Puts a knife in Dr.Suredeath's back while (s)he's thinking about where to get the bullethole
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