Half-life 1.1.0.9 And Naturalselection

abtmabtm Join Date: 2003-04-08 Member: 15337Members
in NS General Discussion
I have a good question. From my testing/experience with the DOD/CS development, I've noticed in HL 1.1.0.9 there is a new modified particle system to take advantage of new explosion effects and such many MODs are waiting for that to come out to take advantage of it.

Will Natural-Selection release BEFORE the patch before May 6th which is the release day, or is the team deciding to opt out of it ? Again, this isn't a beg to learn the release date of 1.1, I'm just curious wether they will be taking advatage of VALVes new technologies.
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  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    edited April 2003
    We are already taking advantate of XP-Cagey and Flay Tecnology.
    Do we really need this?
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  • abtmabtm Join Date: 2003-04-08 Member: 15337Members
    In my experience the new technologies look quite nice. And the foiliage and water effects actually breathe life into an otherwise ancient and dying engine.
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  • SillyGooseSillyGoose Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14572Members, Constellation
    /me donces

    I had no idea the new HL patch was coming out, is NS gonnause the VGUI 2.0 menu's offered in the patch?
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  • abtmabtm Join Date: 2003-04-08 Member: 15337Members
    VGUI 2.0 will NOT be available publically through SDK's or at least this is what Erik tells me, however; as always with VALVe, things do change -- and OFTEN.
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  • ElvenThiefElvenThief aka Elven Thief (ex. NS Programmer) Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8754Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I had no idea the new HL patch was coming out, is NS gonnause the VGUI 2.0 menu's offered in the patch?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    1.1.0.9 was actually a patch ago. Latest HL version is 1.1.1.0
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  • Jabba_The_HuntJabba_The_Hunt Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11850Members
    so is there a new half life patch coming out?
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  • RPGreg2600RPGreg2600 Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14578Members
    The new HL patch isn't coming out may 6.... That's when DoD retail is being released. The new HL patch will be released sometime after that. And yes, the new HL patch is going to simply kick ****.
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  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 2002-06-12 Member: 759Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--RPGreg2600+Apr 13 2003, 02:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RPGreg2600 @ Apr 13 2003, 02:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And yes, the new HL patch is going to simply kick ****. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I agree with you there.

    TFC is getting 1 way teleporters (like NS's phase gates, but it has like a 15-20 sec 'cooldown' time per player it teleports and flags/keys/etc cannot go through them.), a bit less spammy Dustbowl, some new maps, and a few balance changes (nothing too major I think).

    Hopefully we'll see a preformace upgrade to the HL engine in this next patch too. (Version 1.1.1.1 of HL)
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  • MaTTMaTT Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3033Members
    Ive played around with the HL1.1.1.1 patch an i must say it kicks some nice rear end... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Silver_FoxSilver_Fox Spammer Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 34Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    eh, if I had to guess, I'd say 1.1 will release with out it, then version 2 or 1.X will include it

    but .. I aint the big man .. so ..
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  • TAOakenshieldTAOakenshield Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4761Members
    Where did you get this info on the new HL patch ... a link of something would be much appreciated <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • fewfew Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15128Members
    i thought it was a counterstrike patch....1.6 <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • abtmabtm Join Date: 2003-04-08 Member: 15337Members
    Yea, I forgot about the patch # sorry, but the rest still applies.
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  • SillyGooseSillyGoose Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14572Members, Constellation
    if they are going to continue support for the mod version of cs I would think they would have to patch half life also.
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  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    Plus people would beat them if they stopped patching HL
    hehe
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  • ThadenThaden Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13458Members
    Acording to the DoD forums.. DOD will be released on the very same day the new HL will be released. Which is on the 6th. (Also, with a new retail DoD package which uses the new stuff.. like music during server selection.)

    But.. i dont know nothing.. so dont quote me on anything.
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  • abtmabtm Join Date: 2003-04-08 Member: 15337Members
    I think DoD retal introducing new features/maps/GUI's into it's game only for retail will set a bad prescedant for HL MODs going retail. They can't give new maps to those who pay and then maybe later on release a mappack for us who have been playing since dod_hill was being compiled, that's just NOT fair or "P.C"
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  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    This is pure speculation, but I doubt Flay's going to implement any new GUIs considering that NS doesn't use the current one.
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  • abtmabtm Join Date: 2003-04-08 Member: 15337Members
    I was merely talking about DayOfDefeat, NS looks fine the way it is.
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  • KenichiKenichi This is not a pie. Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2941Members, NS1 Playtester
    abtm, considering the sudden release of the patch, i would doubt the effects of the new patch would be implemented in time to release the patch, unless flay wishes to increase the testing period. Somehow i don't think he wants to. Of course i'm not a big man either.
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  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    1.2 people <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • KenichiKenichi This is not a pie. Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2941Members, NS1 Playtester
    Thats assuming there will be a 1.2
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  • abtmabtm Join Date: 2003-04-08 Member: 15337Members
    We need fades to toss pies instead of vomit and stuff, makes it more politically correct and cool
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  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    It's the gorges that shoot vomit
    hehe
    And OF COURSE THERE'LL BE A 1.2 !
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  • KenichiKenichi This is not a pie. Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2941Members, NS1 Playtester
    And how do you know they wont go right to 2.0? or skip 1.2 and goto 1.3. You dont know do you.
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  • DaddenDadden Join Date: 2003-01-08 Member: 12015Awaiting Authorization
    <span style='color:blue'>SACREBLUE </span>
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  • Jeb_RadecJeb_Radec Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1128Members
    you ppl are crazy... just crazy...
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  • SandrockSandrock Join Date: 2002-12-16 Member: 10905Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--Kenichi+Apr 15 2003, 11:34 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kenichi @ Apr 15 2003, 11:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And how do you know they wont go right to 2.0? or skip 1.2 and goto 1.3. You dont know do you. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And how do you know they wont go right to 1.2? or 2.4? or 6.5?

    Regardless of which version it would go into, we know it probably wont be 1.1. It would just delay the release too much.

    1.2, 2.0, whatever. Lets just call it the "next version"
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  • KenichiKenichi This is not a pie. Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2941Members, NS1 Playtester
    well i never claimed it would be any specific version, i was only pointing out the flaw in saying a specific number. As you said it should be called "next version"
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  • ExerExer Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13167Members
    On a more constructive note, can anyone point to a site that talks about the new changes for the new HL patch?
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