<!--QuoteBegin--Obliterater+Apr 19 2003, 03:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Obliterater @ Apr 19 2003, 03:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Is it a good idea to pump unit production? I have it maxed out at 17 for my fortress, and currently have 125 soldiers.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Maxing the unit production has worked great for me - I'm currently at 220+ after about 10 days of playing. I've got my Fortress, Ladders, 100+ turns stockpiled, and 17 units per day + whatever mercenaries I can manage to buy.
I intend to make Talesin beg for mercy. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> (jk!) <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
PulseTo create, to create and escape.Join Date: 2002-08-29Member: 1248Members, Constellation
edited April 2003
<!--QuoteBegin--Obliterater+Apr 19 2003, 06:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Obliterater @ Apr 19 2003, 06:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I can usualy manage to grab a few, but often there gone by the time my screen refreshes.
Is it a good idea to pump unit production? I have it maxed out at 17 for my fortress, and currently have 125 soldiers. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Refresh until theres only 1 or 2 minutes left then time it and buy your mercs without refreshing the page, thats how I get all of mine.
Arharhar-har-har, finally got my dynamite, and stronghold. On top of that I bought myself 2 steeds. Now my attack/defence bonus is 5865 / 3760. And I got 25 on defence, 32 on attack, and the rest on all-purpose. Now to find myself a new arch-enemy, becasue I think my old one stopped playing.
You guys suxors! I've only got 37 dwarves, and I already have a stronghold and battering ram with fully trained soldiers, and high level spies to boot! Man by the time I reach 50 dwarves, I'll probably have dynamite!
<!--QuoteBegin--Error404:+Apr 21 2003, 02:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Error404: @ Apr 21 2003, 02:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You guys suxors! I've only got 37 dwarves, and I already have a stronghold and battering ram with fully trained soldiers, and high level spies to boot! Man by the time I reach 50 dwarves, I'll probably have dynamite! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> When you get 9 units/hour the number of units goes up pretty fast. And send me your in-game name and well see if I suxors!
Yay I got my stronghold, and an officer <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
now to sit back and horde attack turns while pumping unit production to max.
TalesinOur own little well of hateJoin Date: 2002-11-08Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
Take care not to grow too large for your pond, before building up your defense. A Stronghold is all well and good, but there are sub-30 armies with attack bonuses in the 30-50K range. A stronghold (and all the upgrades before it lumped together) will grant you a total of 3000 defense bonus. Piddly, compared to what you'll need to survive in the larger world.
yay, I gots me a fortress! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
PulseTo create, to create and escape.Join Date: 2002-08-29Member: 1248Members, Constellation
Sorry to tell you this 404 but SiLeNcEr-7>Error404 <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> We joined at within the same hour, and now I consider you to be a sort of unnoficial competitor, and I got everything you got before you, and then I increased my unit production because you had more than me <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> This is because Humans pwn j00 all! I guess thats not the right thing to say considering I've gotten the majority of my money from humans but anyway <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> to you!
TalesinOur own little well of hateJoin Date: 2002-11-08Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
Spies are for those who don't want to unneccessarily waste attacks. And Syco, start investing some of that cash... I wanna take it away from you, but it's a waste of attacks, only getting 8K per. :b
Did somebody slaughter a goat in here? No, seriously, I wanna know. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> ::hides a goat leg::
Goats? What.. you gotta be kidding.. there hasent been a goat around here for years!
Did somebody slaughter a goat in here? No, seriously, I wanna know. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Not just yet, but gimme a minute...
Right now I find it very tempting to attack the top three officers so I can take the first spot. Can you defend against 10000 attack power, can you? can you?
could you guys help me out? I want to start increasing my unit production besides link clicking and/or also get some defence. Should I save to get the Stockade or should i save for the link on the main page that says increase unit production button(and what does this button do exactly or increase it by). Or you could tell me what strats you used when you started. Thank you to anyone that responds because ive never played a game like this and dont really know what im doing strat wise.(ive got the jist of the game though) <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Talesin+Apr 23 2003, 05:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Talesin @ Apr 23 2003, 05:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I can, easily. And smack back with double. Thing is, you don't gain rank by attacking people.. it's by your number of soldiers. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You're not one of them, Talesins.
PulseTo create, to create and escape.Join Date: 2002-08-29Member: 1248Members, Constellation
edited April 2003
I would upgrade to stockade, it increases unit production, AND gives you higher defence, which you need when you get a bigger army, upgrade unit production adds 1 extra soldier every 24 hours, as do all the stronghold upgrades.
Oh, and Talesin... He's NSArmy's biggest enemy right now, feel free to loot and pillage him for all eternity, no one's stopping you <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
TalesinOur own little well of hateJoin Date: 2002-11-08Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
Silencer, I haven't taken Comprox's lunch money for a long time now. Though if anyone tries to poek me, I may have to bring my elfish army o' dewm to bear upon him... as only one of his officers are big enough for me to hit, and I can virtually assure that none of 'em can hit me. Yet.
I'd recommend saving up for the defensive Siege upgrades all the way up to Stronghold before starting in on Unit Production. Also, upgrading your Offense ability cannot be overstated. You NEED to take other people's money, as someone will ALWAYS be stronger than you, and able to take yours. Case in point, I just managed to lift over 800,000gp from my peers, and dumped it straight into Unit Production (as I can't upgrade my Siege Defense any higher). Now am getting 17 units a day, for less than ten minutes' work. ^_^
Am at power 70ish (it's been fluxuating all day as I'd attack, lose mercs, then buy more mercs) and have just today maxed out my seige capabilities! I've also got unit production up to 9 per day. I think for my next attack run (when I save up, oh... let's say 120 attacks) I'll dump it ALL into spy training, then buy a few more spies. After that, I'll finally have to start buying the smaller upgrade things.
Just clicked the links of a few of our newest members.
I do wonder though... if I can max my seige out already, why hasn't NS_Army done so also? Comprox doesn't even have a Stronghold yet...
I hate to keep bothering you guys with quesiton, but I have afew more...
I have an army size right now of about 52 soldiers how many of them or what percent should I make attack units if I wanted to attack someone and be safe? I know the more the better but whats like a safe percent to have?
If I put my king of chaos url thing in my signature for the ns forums is that legal?
Last, how do my officers help me out? How do I know how many soldiers Im getting from them? i think i read somewhere its like 1 for every 2 or something
thanx to anyone that answers
My link:http://www.kingsofchaos.com/page.php?id=629719
<!--QuoteBegin--Aries86+Apr 25 2003, 02:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aries86 @ Apr 25 2003, 02:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I have an army size right now of about 52 soldiers how many of them or what percent should I make attack units if I wanted to attack someone and be safe? I know the more the better but whats like a safe percent to have?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It's mostly a mathematical and personal preference thing.
Every 1 soldier you have trained in either attack or defense counts as 2.5 units in that role, but that 1 soldier can no longer help out in the other task.
For example, let's say you take all your 50 soldiers and train them as attackers - you'll have the equivalent of 125 soldiers when you attack, but you'll have no defenders. Training those 50 soldiers will also cost you about 100,000 gold.
If you decide to train only 25 instead of 50, you'll have approximately 87 attackers and 25 defenders. The cost is a slightly more managable 50,000 gold.
Training the remaining 25 'all-purpose' soldiers to defense will give you the equivalent of 62 attack and 62 defense troops.
I don't think there's any 'best way' to balance it - that's where the personal preference thing comes in. If you want an attack force that can usually take down a beast 2 or 3 times your size, go with 100% offensive (but remember that you'll be defenseless).
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Is it a good idea to pump unit production? I have it maxed out at 17 for my fortress, and currently have 125 soldiers.
Maxing the unit production has worked great for me - I'm currently at 220+ after about 10 days of playing. I've got my Fortress, Ladders, 100+ turns stockpiled, and 17 units per day + whatever mercenaries I can manage to buy.
I intend to make Talesin beg for mercy. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> (jk!) <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Is it a good idea to pump unit production? I have it maxed out at 17 for my fortress, and currently have 125 soldiers. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Refresh until theres only 1 or 2 minutes left then time it and buy your mercs without refreshing the page, thats how I get all of mine.
[edit] w00t! I got me a stronghold! [/edit]
When you get 9 units/hour the number of units goes up pretty fast. And send me your in-game name and well see if I suxors!
now to sit back and horde attack turns while pumping unit production to max.
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Race: Human
Commander: NSArmy
Attack/Defend bonus: 8975 / 3970
/shrug
*sniff*
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Did somebody slaughter a goat in here? No, seriously, I wanna know.
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Did somebody slaughter a goat in here? No, seriously, I wanna know. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
::hides a goat leg::
Goats? What.. you gotta be kidding.. there hasent been a goat around here for years!
<a href='http://www.kingsofchaos.com/page.php?id=629719' target='_blank'>http://www.kingsofchaos.com/page.php?id=629719</a>
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<a href='http://www.kingsofchaos.com/page.php?id=630193' target='_blank'>http://www.kingsofchaos.com/page.php?id=630193</a>
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Did somebody slaughter a goat in here? No, seriously, I wanna know. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not just yet, but gimme a minute...
Can you defend against 10000 attack power, can you? can you?
<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
I want to start increasing my unit production besides link clicking and/or also get some defence. Should I save to get the Stockade or should i save for the link on the main page that says increase unit production button(and what does this button do exactly or increase it by). Or you could tell me what strats you used when you started. Thank you to anyone that responds because ive never played a game like this and dont really know what im doing strat wise.(ive got the jist of the game though) <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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my link: <a href='http://www.kingsofchaos.com/page.php?id=629719' target='_blank'>http://www.kingsofchaos.com/page.php?id=629719</a>
You're not one of them, Talesins.
Oh, and Talesin... He's NSArmy's biggest enemy right now, feel free to loot and pillage him for all eternity, no one's stopping you <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
I'd recommend saving up for the defensive Siege upgrades all the way up to Stronghold before starting in on Unit Production. Also, upgrading your Offense ability cannot be overstated. You NEED to take other people's money, as someone will ALWAYS be stronger than you, and able to take yours.
Case in point, I just managed to lift over 800,000gp from my peers, and dumped it straight into Unit Production (as I can't upgrade my Siege Defense any higher). Now am getting 17 units a day, for less than ten minutes' work. ^_^
Just clicked the links of a few of our newest members.
I do wonder though... if I can max my seige out already, why hasn't NS_Army done so also? Comprox doesn't even have a Stronghold yet...
I have an army size right now of about 52 soldiers how many of them or what percent should I make attack units if I wanted to attack someone and be safe? I know the more the better but whats like a safe percent to have?
If I put my king of chaos url thing in my signature for the ns forums is that legal?
Last, how do my officers help me out? How do I know how many soldiers Im getting from them? i think i read somewhere its like 1 for every 2 or something
thanx to anyone that answers
My link:http://www.kingsofchaos.com/page.php?id=629719
It's mostly a mathematical and personal preference thing.
Every 1 soldier you have trained in either attack or defense counts as 2.5 units in that role, but that 1 soldier can no longer help out in the other task.
For example, let's say you take all your 50 soldiers and train them as attackers - you'll have the equivalent of 125 soldiers when you attack, but you'll have no defenders. Training those 50 soldiers will also cost you about 100,000 gold.
If you decide to train only 25 instead of 50, you'll have approximately 87 attackers and 25 defenders. The cost is a slightly more managable 50,000 gold.
Training the remaining 25 'all-purpose' soldiers to defense will give you the equivalent of 62 attack and 62 defense troops.
I don't think there's any 'best way' to balance it - that's where the personal preference thing comes in. If you want an attack force that can usually take down a beast 2 or 3 times your size, go with 100% offensive (but remember that you'll be defenseless).