Gorging To Rack Up Kills

Error404

<div class="IPBDescription">something I hate</div> <u>Something I really hate</u>
<i>My RANT, I had enough</i>


and bugs me no end, is the number of players who choose to go gorge in the early game just to rack up Offence Chamber Kills (OCKs, I call them for short). It's the most selfish thing you can do, and if I admined any of these servers, I would without doubt of mind kick these guys.

Like the other day, I played on a map where we seemed to have 2 defence chambers for what seemed like ages, yet as I wandered around the map I found massive walls of offence chambers. We had 3, sometimes 4 gorges, on our 10 a-side game, and saw that one gorge didn't even budge from his wall of lame and I swear I saw this guy spent the whole game healing his wall of lame.

Meanwhile, I do my usual hit and run, harassing the marines, taking down PGs, etc, while these gorges are happily healing their OCK mines... but not me. I ask for healing, these gorges ignore me. Worse thing is, anyone that comes along and starts shooting their precious wall of lame, I see the red circle and go to protect it, I get a load of bullets in me, and just as the guy is about to go down to my last bit, the bl00dy OC gets the kill. The gorge gets my kill, and doesn't even heal me.

What usually happened in these games, was that the kharaa ended up with a really high kill count, yet we lost in the end because the marines just sat back took it easy, got enough res, teched up and became invincible.

IMHO, OCKs are the cheapest kills you can get, anyone can get them, thats probably why unskilled players choose to go Gorge.

My advice, if you're admin, kick any gorge that loves the look of his scoreboard too much.



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90PoundWuss

Thats what I like about the marine scoreboard. You cant see your score, only the rank, so it keeps you from getting too cocky (ala CS). It also helps them act as a team. So maybe that would be a good idea for the Kharaa score board in 1.1 as well??? Eh??

That_Annoying_Kid

gorges who do that should be shot, if your the gorge, anyone else goes to gorge without prior permission should get a good yelling at, unless they have a justifable reason
"some people should be slapped with raw bacon until there crying"
that quote pops into mind

TheGlow

Whats also annoying are people turning into gorge for the slightly faster res gain to go lerk or fade.
Obviously if you have to do that, the teams res isnt that great yet. I find that cheap.

Talnoy

i think they should just not get the kill for an OCK <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

Forlorn

<!--QuoteBegin--pittlord2692+Mar 18 2003, 03:07 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pittlord2692 @ Mar 18 2003, 03:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i think they should just not get the kill for an OCK <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Aye, the commander don't get a kill when a turret kills an alien.

Minstrel_Knight

<!--QuoteBegin--90PoundWuss+Mar 17 2003, 02:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (90PoundWuss @ Mar 17 2003, 02:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Thats what I like about the marine scoreboard. You cant see your score, only the rank, so it keeps you from getting too cocky (ala CS). It also helps them act as a team. So maybe that would be a good idea for the Kharaa score board in 1.1 as well??? Eh?? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Marine scoreboard is not arranged by rank.

TheGlow

Marines are just random. go to console and type status and itll tell you the marines kills. The marines I think just have no order. not by ping, kills, death, nothing.

MMZ_Torak

Ok people, say it with me, "kill totals mean nothing". I do agree with everthing else said here. Gorges the randomly build OC's or just camp their OC's for kills should be fed to the marines. People that go gorge to save for fade are worse.

see-you-in-disney-land

Burn/kill/maim/slaughter THEM ALL!

Problem is noone has the heart to do that to those cute little gorges......

taboofires

If dropping ocs all over results in lots of kills, the marine team sux. They should learn their lesson the first time around.

If you're playing against bots, this is true, but who cares? The bots don't really fight back all that much.

KoniaX

[QUOTE]thats probably why unskilled players choose to go Gorge.


I agree with everything you said except for this. Usually ( on the servers I play on) only skilled players go gorge. Maybe you're just playing on the wrong server or something, but in my experience, only good players go gorge.

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EvenFlow

<!--QuoteBegin--Error404:+Mar 17 2003, 02:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Error404: @ Mar 17 2003, 02:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> thats probably why unskilled players choose to go Gorge.

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I agree with everything you've except for this, I've been gorging a lot lately because I feel I cannot get any better as a skulk, next progression for me will be giving comm'ing a go, this adds variaty to my game and I'll hopefully end up being an ' all-rounder'.

In most cases there is usually no need for OC's in the early game, nothing irritates me more than seeing OC's all over the place and no DC's
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Rue

w8 a sec....ur not talking about saving for fades or lerks ect, but ur talking about people just building OC's for the kills? isnt that the point? , if there gorge builds a wall of lame that stops them getting to ur hive and he stays with it all match getting OCK then thats fine as long as hes got it in a good location , as for the not healing you thing thats just a N00b player for you but cant realy be helped. this isnt realy seen much tho but i think u should find a new server.

Anyway i try not to play aliens much because if u have a n00b commander then u can kick him , if u have 6 noob gorges...then...well u can.... lose?

Takel

The major beef about this issue is the fact that the walls of lame are doing nothing BUT grabbing a stray kill. They are not helping the team directly as evident by the fact that the gorges don't even heal any team members who come to help...

I am strongly in the camp to have kill counts removed so I can't really comment on that without it being totally biased (ok if you want my opinion it's this: Remove the kill/death counts totally. hell, I would love to have the death messages trimmed down to "Some Poor Player" killed by "insert weapon name here" to further remove the frag competition)


Through basic maths work, 1/4 of the team should be gorges to have a 50% split of gorges getting the res and the rest of the team getting res. The gorges are not hampered by this ratio unless it is over 25% gorge. Likewise, they do not gain if the ratio is less than 25%. Of course, that would be quite drastic since you would have less fighting power and you'll be in effect investing a huge amount of resources to tech and not fight, though if you could get more res towers....
More than 25% gorge and there will be not only less res for each gorge but there will be less res flow to the rest of the team, thus, a crappy start