Marine Muzzle Flash
smokey_green
Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10765Members
Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10765Members
<div class="IPBDescription">a little too 20th century???</div> I mean come on. We have sonic cannons, motion tracking, armor practically from the movie alien, turrets that shoot at targets, but when it comes to suppressing muzzle flash, you just can't do it.
BAH!!!!!!
There needs to be a secondary function to disable it, but have a penalty taken on thier damage. Its not hard to totally get rid of the flash (which, I have already done) so i'm sure i'm not the only one, and being as this is probably a touchy issue to those not able to edit a simple ------ I won't provide a download.
So... NS creators. Get rid of muzzle flash, make a penalty, or enable checking of you know what along with the model checking in a pure server. The ladder of which I don't think you can do - so get rid of the muzzle flash altogether.
I don't believe in cheating in online games (maybe diablo 2) but the flash is something that is just out of place in a 30th century arsenal.
BAH!!!!!!
There needs to be a secondary function to disable it, but have a penalty taken on thier damage. Its not hard to totally get rid of the flash (which, I have already done) so i'm sure i'm not the only one, and being as this is probably a touchy issue to those not able to edit a simple ------ I won't provide a download.
So... NS creators. Get rid of muzzle flash, make a penalty, or enable checking of you know what along with the model checking in a pure server. The ladder of which I don't think you can do - so get rid of the muzzle flash altogether.
I don't believe in cheating in online games (maybe diablo 2) but the flash is something that is just out of place in a 30th century arsenal.
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nope, but i've seen todays arsenal where flash supressors are commonplace
This is considered cheating in NS.
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almost as bad as removing the skulk teeth...hell like we can see any better with that "torch" on the end of our LMGs....
NS is near future coil, <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->, doubtfully any later then the 23rd century.
Personally I have yet to notice a muzzle flash. I'll have to check it out today while I'm playing (I'm such a tool). I know for a fact about the skulk biting problem, the trick is to guess where the marine is headed, and to have a higher ping than him <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
The only time I shoot is when I know I'll hit or get close, and then you just follow the guy until he keels over, I guess that's why I don't notice a flash.
This brings up a better question.. Should cheats be allowed? Modding the servers seems to be pretty popular (voogru, some other places), and many people consider them cheats. Maybe someone should start a thread about the ethics of "cheating" and what is or isn't cheating..
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hmm...and maybe cheating is ok in...oh what's that other game...oh yeah NS
For crying out loud...if you cheat in diablo 2 and cheat in NS, it makes me wonder what your definition of cheating in online games is...hmm
(/me dons turban, closes eyes, and rubs temples, a la Carnack)
The game . . . will . . . . die?
I've seen a flash suppressor on a fully automatic rifle. Not in just a game either, military basic training, M-16, fully auto. You know what? You're right, there is flash on the rifle. <b>HOWEVER</b>, the suppressor has <b>specifically</b> been designed so that it doesn’t interfere with the soldiers ability to see/aim at his intended target (I wont even go into how the flash on a M-16 is nothing in comparison to the flash in the game). The flash that is seen in the game is COMPLETELY out of place for a nano-technology society where equipment can (and is) “teleported” when/where it’s needed.
<i>Any</i> society that is more technologically advanced than we are should have weapons that are better than the ones we used close to 30 years ago…
If servers change stuff, I don't care. the admin can set up the server however they want. Everyone abides by the changed rules. If you don't like it, then you can just change to a normal server.
But people cheating is different. Only the cheater gets to use the "changed rules". Three words...KICK AND BAN
Um, maybe they wanted to design the game this way? I think it looks fine and runs decently (not great, the pings are still waay too high, but at least now I can play 8vs8 instead of 4v4)
Easy solutions that will make everybody happy:
1) no muzzle flash
2) just replace all guns with a rocket launcher that instantly kills everything on the map except your team
That should about do it. Also, I would like to be able to run faster and fly without requiring a jetpack. Thanks.
Answer? Because the guns just don't "Feel" right without them. There are many (MANY) games where this was the major problem (I name UT2003's Rocket Launcher for this) and it's made a lot of people not like the game, because the weapons don't feel like they have any "kick"
And weapons that "feel" weak, don't get used.
Skulks eyes should not be in their mouth, and muzzle flash shouldn't be as big as it is in NS.
Vision is already limited by our monitors not allowing us to have peripheral vision.
Change the skulk model to be more like the onos where they can see their nose or something. Change marine moded so flash doesn't take up half the viewable screen.
It's not like we want the guns muted, or the models completely removed, just shrink the flash down to a managable size.
The thing about the skulk view is totally bogus. Who cares if you are looking through the mouth. Yes we figured out skulks have eyes on the outside of their head smarty, but really who cares.
Skulks eyes should not be in their mouth, and muzzle flash shouldn't be as big as it is in NS.
Vision is already limited by our monitors not allowing us to have peripheral vision.
Change the skulk model to be more like the onos where they can see their nose or something. Change marine moded so flash doesn't take up half the viewable screen.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Agreed 100%
(muzzle flash does seem a bit too big though)
I used to have this kick @$$ pulse rifle sound from AvP but the stupid consitency wouldnt allow me to use it...
If you guys are going to use consistency checks, check for a RANGE... e.g. with models check for parts of the model sticking outside the accepted hitbox. For sounds check for extreme loudness/quietness... ect.
Just check for extremes.
IMO The consistency checks make the game less enjoyable for the modders.
BTW I dont care if people remove the teeth of a skulk, I think the skulk's teeth are awesome how they are, no reason to change it. If people want to change the skulks teeth to something else let them.
They will be the ones missing out.
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a)Suck
b)Play NS in 640x800 resolution
c)Suck
Oh and yeah turning the muzzle flash off shouldnt be considered cheating hey niether should spiked models, and that ogc thing? No thats just a "game enhancer!"
[edit]And the skulk teeth view is one of the coolest things ive seen in an FPS for awhile, removing it would be a crime against humanity, besides skulks would be too strong.
You mean this isn't set in the 20th century!?!?!
YOU MEAN THIS ISNT REAL!?!?!
YOU MEAN IT'S ONLY A GAME!?!?!
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*Torak takes out a pen and puts a 0 on the end of everyone of his own bills.*
I don't think THAT'S cheating either. I mean really, I'm only modifying *my* bills, not yours..........
A buddy of my runs an NS server and I wont play there anymore because they used an NS Admin program to alter the game. This **obscenity** me off. So if I wont even play on a server that a good friend runs, then what does that tell you?
Ah well. My only interest in this post is the fact that someone like Smokey_green who has probably never done a mod would offer such an opinion on everything NS has done wrong instead of just suggesting some things that might make the game better.
Ah well, that's just me.
And skulks' teeth are cool as he||.
Stop whining.