Subnautica: Below Zero Story Changes and Save Games - Subnautica

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  • Sith_Empire_IncSith_Empire_Inc Members Join Date: 2020-03-31 Member: 259403Posts: 2 Fully active user
    I like dangerous areas that force you to get out and swim for certain items😬😬😬😐☹🤢🤮🤮
  • Pavman2448Pavman2448 Members Join Date: 2018-12-05 Member: 245159Posts: 2 Fully active user
    So, how would I be able to get the development version of below zero? I use the Epic Games Launcher and I don't get the option to get the development version. Anyone know how to get it?
    Vladimir78
  • narfblatnarfblat Utah, USAMembers, Forum Moderators, Forum staff Join Date: 2016-05-15 Member: 216799Posts: 722 mod
    Unfortunately, it's steam only. If I remember correctly, Epic only allows one version.
    Subnautica stuff:
    Official Subnautica discord chat: https://discord.gg/subnautica
    For updates on Console progress for both Subnautica and Below Zero, check the favro page, here.
    How to clear your Cache, by 0x6A7232.
    How to use console commands.
    Stuck, and just want to most recent base/Cyclops? Use "Warpme" command. Want to get out of the ceiling? Press F1 and note your camera postion. First number is North/South, second number is up/down, and third is East/West. Reduce the 2nd number by 10, then use "warp x y z" (where x, y, and z are the position you want to be).
  • HaliosHalios OzMembers Join Date: 2015-11-27 Member: 209514Posts: 254 Advanced user
    Catsy wrote: »
    Oh good grief. Look at all these buzzwords pretending to be constructive feedback. It's remarkable how un-self-consciously threatened some people get by being "forced" to play as a female character, let alone a (quelle horreur!) non-white character.

    "inane babbling vagina monologues"
    "leftist woke / intersectionality / social justice ideology"
    "none white male character with an agenda"

    Protip: the only people here with an agenda that is not "have fun with Subnautica" are those bleating out loaded right-wing nonsense like the above.

    I'm as economically left as you can be without falling off the scale. Though so embarrassed and horrified by a lot of the evil crap spewed by today's mainstream left that I increasingly don't want to be associated with them.

    Gay.

    Not white.

    Not christian.

    I don't think of it this way but technically could qualify as having several disabilities.

    In a game of special snowflake bingo, I'd be very hard to beat.

    The original dialog for the game really was inane babbling vagina monologues.

    Women really don't just sit around all day talking about vaginas. And especially not at work. The dialog was neither realistic nor positive for women. It was cringeworthy and awful on multiple levels.
    helix427 wrote: »
    I am a white male, and there is currently an extreme amount of hatred for white males in the popular culture of the western world, in conjunction with the leftist woke / intersectionality / social justice ideology.

    Although Subnautica Below Zero does not appear to directly attack white males based on what I have read, woke ideology generally does. Consequently, the fact that it is full of woke ideology as well as a ridiculous amount of "woke drivel" as described above made me refrain from buying the game, or else I would have in a heartbeat.

    I had suspected this effect might be in play here because of IPs which took diversity to a really bad place like the new Star Wars and Star Trek. Which has hurt not just those IPs, but the cause of diversity.

    I'm glad you spoke up.

    And you have my sympathies and support.

    For what it's worth, I've copped much more and worse discrimination because of my gender than my skin colour, sexuality etc.

    That said, I just watched a youtube vid of the new intro and it's fabulously devoid of vagina talk.

    While it's possible they could still slip that stupidity in later, personally I'm inclined to believe that they've realised this was a mistake and have corrected it. Sneakily slipping in at the end would permanently put a lot of people off the company, effectively killing them.
  • M_QM_Q Members Join Date: 2020-05-02 Member: 260603Posts: 4 Fully active user
    edited May 3
    I don't know how the discussion devolved into politics, but I didn't like the verbosity of Below Zero. Playing as any possible gender -- who cares about that. Subnautica was a soothing survival experience without any needless voice-overs or comments that didn't add to the plot or atmosphere.

    The conversation with Al-An, aka Alan, your "new alien pet buddy" made me cringe. Good thing they didn't name him B-Ob I guess. The protagonist is all like, "ah I just had a life-threatening accident and then an alien invaded my brain, kewl, now, I JUST HAVE TO GIVE IT A NAME". Seriously, Disney?

    Hey, it's the devs' choice of how they will handle the new game and things were improved in the latest update, but I really don't think that corny dialog lines was something that was missing from the first game, or was the reason people loved it in the first place.
  • D_H_TD_H_T [email protected]Members Join Date: 2020-05-05 Member: 260709Posts: 1 Freshly registered user
    edited May 5
    Well since we're doing that, regretably...
    Right winger here, white, straight, christian.
    I really don't care about my character's gender and race nor do I think it's a bad thing if it comes up in the story (Not that I felt like it did). Likewise the story is fine to me and corny dialogues never stopped a game for being great. (Metal Gear, Devil May Cry and such).

    Booting the game the first time I realized the char was female and my only reaction was probably something like 'aight',and I went on with my playthrough, utterly unafected. I don't think I even reacted when I saw the black skin on her hands.

    Stop assuming that just because of our race and gender we'll hate the game, Robin or the story. Likewise stop assuming every negative comment is motivated my racism or sexism, this just sounds like a cheap deflection attempt.

    I actually want to see where this is going, I'm interested in the story, and yeah I guess dialogues can't exactly be written as well as in Half-Life (for exemple, Alyx's dialogues were just fantastic) in every game, and that's fine.

    Lastly, I saw someone write that: " There are definitely themes of misogyny and Mexican historical grievances throughout the original after all ..."
    No. Misoginy against whom? Ryley only ever spoke with the Leviathan, and that's it. And "Mexican historical grievances"? Come on now, just because he's hispanic doesn't mean he's here to make a political statement. Or that he's mexican.
    What I'm trying to say is stop trying to assign arbitrary labels to things and people when there's no need to. Humans are humans, and I love humanity as a whole. I'd hate to see people ironicaly divide it under the guise of "tolerance".
  • ChudovishChudovish RuMembers Join Date: 2016-07-01 Member: 219418Posts: 36 Advanced user
    Yeah. Devs might noticed that all that ladies&gentlemen hated smth about main character (MC).
    Summ:
    1. It doesnt matter he or she the MC is. Cant remember any of that conversations from Subnautica 1 exept "give us the choise please".
    2. Race, ideology or sexual self-determination of MC may broke game experience for the part of community. Dont be sharp here and all be grateful.
    3. More human behavior. Its fu**** scary when an alien get under your skin. Normal human not acting like Robin. And if she speaks then it might be more emotional. "Oh, you here, in my head. Ok." Thats not enough.
    4. More logic in plot. Datapads in S1 were super, now its more walkie-talkie. You made it great once, fingers crossed you made it again. Al-An is more human-type than Robin. And how he learn her language first time? Again - that guys who wrote all that stuff in S1 - if you fired them then hire again, that was good.
    5. More water. Yes, we all understand why you making the ground level. But still not clear why we need to explore it or make a base - there is only one thing there and then we make our way back underwater. Last time I was there about 7 minutes - on a PRAWN that was easy.
    6. Weather conditions is great. More of that may give ground level a bit of interest.
    Scrap english
  • AliradicaliAliradicali Members Join Date: 2019-02-12 Member: 250862Posts: 6 Fully active user
    For what it's worth, I didn't notice any overt political messages in Below Zero, but the decision to have a more talkative protagonist struck me as a poor one. Even with better dialogue, every time your character speaks it's a reminder that you're playing as a character in a video game. One thing that made Subnautica so immersive is that the game barely characterises Riley, there's no dialogue and you only see his shadow, blurry reflections and his hands and feet. It' very easy to slip into Riley as an avatar, much more so than with Robin, who is constantly making inane small-talk, reminding you that you're playing as someone else.
  • Dzima92Dzima92 LithuaniaMembers Join Date: 2020-05-18 Member: 261142Posts: 1 Freshly registered user
    edited May 18
    can i play non steam game is it mean crack? or this illegal
  • narfblatnarfblat Utah, USAMembers, Forum Moderators, Forum staff Join Date: 2016-05-15 Member: 216799Posts: 722 mod
    edited May 23
    The real game is only on Epic or Steam. Steam has some benefits for Below Zero, as it has the Experimental mode and prior versions available. (On epic, if the current version is broken, you just have to wait until the fix is released.) Edit: I think it's also on Discord.

    Playing cracked version is illegal, and can give you viruses and malware. Not worth it saving $20 and ruining a PC worth a few hundred or more.
    Post edited by narfblat on
    Subnautica stuff:
    Official Subnautica discord chat: https://discord.gg/subnautica
    For updates on Console progress for both Subnautica and Below Zero, check the favro page, here.
    How to clear your Cache, by 0x6A7232.
    How to use console commands.
    Stuck, and just want to most recent base/Cyclops? Use "Warpme" command. Want to get out of the ceiling? Press F1 and note your camera postion. First number is North/South, second number is up/down, and third is East/West. Reduce the 2nd number by 10, then use "warp x y z" (where x, y, and z are the position you want to be).
  • princess123princess123 Members Join Date: 2020-05-22 Member: 261249Posts: 1 Freshly registered user
    Dear Devs,
    In hopes that you actually read fan comments, please note this comment as sincere feedback. I loved Subnautica, one of my favorite games of all time, helped me address my insane fear of deep water. I thought the first one was brilliant. My feedback for Below Zero: the dialogue breaks that beautiful dark immersion that you created so well in the previous game. In hindsight, you should have kept with the same dialogue and storytelling style, you shouldnt have changed that because it was already perfect. Also, there was a certain humor in some of the item descriptions which is now absent, and I miss it. Also, I was hoping for new bioms, under the surface seems uninovative, like you didnt try to improve the most vital aspect of the game: underwater. No deep sea luminescence? No underwater ice caves? Ice surface is cool, would definitely keep exploring. Just seems like you went the wrong direction in some of your major changes. Seems like you didnt stay true to your original, brilliant creation, which is usually the danger of making sequels. The new concept Below Zero icey subnautica sequal sounds so amazing, will definitely keep playing and loving. Fingers crossed that you take feedback into consideration. Thank you dev team: keep creating!
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