This game is full of toxic negativity

AndosAndos Join Date: 2003-10-17 Member: 21742Members Posts: 266 Advanced user
I'm back after a year or two not playing NS2 - and boy is the servers full of whiny pros....

All time is spent by these super-veterans lecturing everybody that they are retards, idiots for not doing what they want and cursing people for not going in the direction they want people to go - and this was on a rookie friendly server....
I simply can't understand why they spend 80% of the time whining over people not doing what they want instead of simply: Telling people what they want them to actually do!
If I politely try and tell them this all hell erupts and there is nothing but bad mojo on the voice-chat for a few minutes.

I know I'm a noob. I know I suck.
Yelling at me is not gonna make me feel welcome back into the game or make me any better at it.

Please - think of the noobs
NordicKasharicSquishpokePOOPFACEKouji_San
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  • SquishpokePOOPFACESquishpokePOOPFACE -21,248 posts (ignore below) Join Date: 2012-10-31 Member: 165262Members, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 1,653 Advanced user
    It is known
    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to play Natural Selection 2. The gameplay is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of military strategy and advanced mathematics you won't even win a single game. Theres also the game's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into the game. The maps and artwork draw heavily from Riddley Scott's Alien franchise, for instance. The players understand this stuff, they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depth of the game, to realise that it's not just great, that it also says something about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Natural Selection 2 truly ARE idiots. of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in the Marines' existential catchphrase "how do I get to be so good", which itself is a cryptic reference to the high degree of intelligence required to play the game as intended. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion when spectating a game. What fools... how I pity them. And, yes, by the way, i DO have a Fade tatoo. And no, you cannot see it. it's for the ladies' eyes only, and even then they have to demonstrate that they are within 50 hive skill points of my own (preferable lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid.
    NordicKouji_San
  • AeglosAeglos Join Date: 2010-04-06 Member: 71189Members Posts: 622 Advanced user
    edited October 24
    Unfortunate but true. It's even worse than you think. It's not just the top players but its across the spectrum from T1 to T7. Not sure how it compares to other games but it has been rather unpleasant. You should mute the key offenders for a better experience.

    Edit - Forums are so dead that Nordic is awesoming everyone who posts? :D
    NordicKouji_San
  • SquishpokePOOPFACESquishpokePOOPFACE -21,248 posts (ignore below) Join Date: 2012-10-31 Member: 165262Members, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 1,653 Advanced user
    Yea
    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to play Natural Selection 2. The gameplay is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of military strategy and advanced mathematics you won't even win a single game. Theres also the game's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into the game. The maps and artwork draw heavily from Riddley Scott's Alien franchise, for instance. The players understand this stuff, they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depth of the game, to realise that it's not just great, that it also says something about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Natural Selection 2 truly ARE idiots. of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in the Marines' existential catchphrase "how do I get to be so good", which itself is a cryptic reference to the high degree of intelligence required to play the game as intended. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion when spectating a game. What fools... how I pity them. And, yes, by the way, i DO have a Fade tatoo. And no, you cannot see it. it's for the ladies' eyes only, and even then they have to demonstrate that they are within 50 hive skill points of my own (preferable lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid.
    NordicKouji_San
  • NordicNordic Long term camping in Kodiak Join Date: 2012-05-13 Member: 151995Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 4,771 Advanced user
    edited October 24
    I am only awesomeing squishes post and those that are awesome.
    Post edited by Nordic on
    From my perspective UWE has been trying to both with what little resources they have given to the game. They don't have an AAA budget, let alone an indie game budget. They have the budget of a game that has been out 6 years. I want to say, don't half ass two things, whole ass one thing. I just don't think they have the resources to do it. Unlike many of the people on the forums, I guess I am just happy they are at least trying even though I may not like what they end up doing.
    Kouji_SanSquishpokePOOPFACE
  • FrozenFrozen New York, NY Join Date: 2010-07-02 Member: 72228Members, Constellation Posts: 1,479 Advanced user
    Shoot the hive.
    mattji104
    NordicKouji_San
  • NordicNordic Long term camping in Kodiak Join Date: 2012-05-13 Member: 151995Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 4,771 Advanced user
    Frozen wrote: »
    Shoot the hive.

    My ex girlfriend used to make fun of me yelling shoot the hive so much. I don't know why it is so hard for people to all focus on the biggest thing in the room.
    From my perspective UWE has been trying to both with what little resources they have given to the game. They don't have an AAA budget, let alone an indie game budget. They have the budget of a game that has been out 6 years. I want to say, don't half ass two things, whole ass one thing. I just don't think they have the resources to do it. Unlike many of the people on the forums, I guess I am just happy they are at least trying even though I may not like what they end up doing.
    Kouji_San
  • MephillesMephilles Germany Join Date: 2013-08-07 Member: 186634Members, NS2 Map Tester Posts: 958 Advanced user
    tbf I don't see many T7 players that are toxic. Atleast when I see them playing they might do some play calls but generally they don't give a fuck in pubs
    return to zero
    Kouji_San
  • SquishpokePOOPFACESquishpokePOOPFACE -21,248 posts (ignore below) Join Date: 2012-10-31 Member: 165262Members, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 1,653 Advanced user
    Nordic wrote: »
    Frozen wrote: »
    Shoot the hive.

    My ex girlfriend used to make fun of me yelling shoot the hive so much. I don't know why it is so hard for people to all focus on the biggest thing in the room.

    Because it's an elephant. Ignoring the obvious is one of the most hysterical group activities you can participate in
    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to play Natural Selection 2. The gameplay is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of military strategy and advanced mathematics you won't even win a single game. Theres also the game's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into the game. The maps and artwork draw heavily from Riddley Scott's Alien franchise, for instance. The players understand this stuff, they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depth of the game, to realise that it's not just great, that it also says something about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Natural Selection 2 truly ARE idiots. of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in the Marines' existential catchphrase "how do I get to be so good", which itself is a cryptic reference to the high degree of intelligence required to play the game as intended. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion when spectating a game. What fools... how I pity them. And, yes, by the way, i DO have a Fade tatoo. And no, you cannot see it. it's for the ladies' eyes only, and even then they have to demonstrate that they are within 50 hive skill points of my own (preferable lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid.
    Kouji_San
  • AeglosAeglos Join Date: 2010-04-06 Member: 71189Members Posts: 622 Advanced user
    Nordic wrote: »
    Frozen wrote: »
    Shoot the hive.

    My ex girlfriend used to make fun of me yelling shoot the hive so much. I don't know why it is so hard for people to all focus on the biggest thing in the room.

    Lack of trust. It is also the thing that has the longest time to kill.
    Mephilles wrote: »
    tbf I don't see many T7 players that are toxic. Atleast when I see them playing they might do some play calls but generally they don't give a fuck in pubs

    Its not T7 players that are toxic. It is toxic players that are T7. Also, some people might be cordial amongst their peers but snobs to people below them. It really isn't a rank thing, there are toxic T1 players too.
    NordicSquishpokePOOPFACEKouji_San
  • The_Welsh_WizardThe_Welsh_Wizard Join Date: 2013-09-10 Member: 188101Members, Reinforced - Supporter Posts: 773 Advanced user
    Nordic wrote: »
    Frozen wrote: »
    Shoot the hive.

    My ex girlfriend used to make fun of me yelling shoot the hive so much. I don't know why it is so hard for people to all focus on the biggest thing in the room.

    Because the Hive is most of the time what you should shoot last.
    Kouji_San
  • Ripper2fgRipper2fg Germany Join Date: 2014-01-10 Member: 192936Members, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 1 Fully active user
    I saw a lot of T5 + T6 players blaming others for "not listening etc." even if they are T1/T2.

    People seem to forget that its still a public game. There fore is Comp and the NSL in my Opinion.

    I am relativly aware from such behavior and ignore those people.

    Best Example: A few days ago there was an T6 (on the edge to T7) and after a win he got promoted. The Round after he lost (as Marine) and he was absolutly yelling at people "who didn't listen" and "who are s*it, and suck at aiming". Nearly everybody was T0 to T3. Those people are toxic as hell and should be blamed.

    There is mostly a discussion after you lose a round, but you should always stay in a normal language range.
    NordicSquishpokePOOPFACEKouji_San
  • SquishpokePOOPFACESquishpokePOOPFACE -21,248 posts (ignore below) Join Date: 2012-10-31 Member: 165262Members, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 1,653 Advanced user
    NS2 destroys chill pills
    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to play Natural Selection 2. The gameplay is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of military strategy and advanced mathematics you won't even win a single game. Theres also the game's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into the game. The maps and artwork draw heavily from Riddley Scott's Alien franchise, for instance. The players understand this stuff, they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depth of the game, to realise that it's not just great, that it also says something about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Natural Selection 2 truly ARE idiots. of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in the Marines' existential catchphrase "how do I get to be so good", which itself is a cryptic reference to the high degree of intelligence required to play the game as intended. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion when spectating a game. What fools... how I pity them. And, yes, by the way, i DO have a Fade tatoo. And no, you cannot see it. it's for the ladies' eyes only, and even then they have to demonstrate that they are within 50 hive skill points of my own (preferable lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid.
    NordicKouji_San
  • BeigeAlertBeigeAlert Texas Join Date: 2013-08-08 Member: 186657Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts Posts: 2,829 admin
    Ripper2fg wrote: »
    I saw a lot of T5 + T6 players blaming others for "not listening etc." even if they are T1/T2.

    People seem to forget that its still a public game. There fore is Comp and the NSL in my Opinion.

    I am relativly aware from such behavior and ignore those people.

    Best Example: A few days ago there was an T6 (on the edge to T7) and after a win he got promoted. The Round after he lost (as Marine) and he was absolutly yelling at people "who didn't listen" and "who are s*it, and suck at aiming". Nearly everybody was T0 to T3. Those people are toxic as hell and should be blamed.

    There is mostly a discussion after you lose a round, but you should always stay in a normal language range.

    Yea unfortunately experienced players yelling at their less experienced teammates and blaming them for a loss (regardless of whether or not they deserve it) is very common. I wish server ops/admins/moderators were less tolerant of this behavior... there's simply no good reason to let these people continue to ruin the experience of others, just on the off chance that they grow a spine -- just kick/ban them and move on.
    KasharictwiliteblueKouji_San
  • AeglosAeglos Join Date: 2010-04-06 Member: 71189Members Posts: 622 Advanced user
    BeigeAlert wrote: »
    Ripper2fg wrote: »
    I saw a lot of T5 + T6 players blaming others for "not listening etc." even if they are T1/T2.

    People seem to forget that its still a public game. There fore is Comp and the NSL in my Opinion.

    I am relativly aware from such behavior and ignore those people.

    Best Example: A few days ago there was an T6 (on the edge to T7) and after a win he got promoted. The Round after he lost (as Marine) and he was absolutly yelling at people "who didn't listen" and "who are s*it, and suck at aiming". Nearly everybody was T0 to T3. Those people are toxic as hell and should be blamed.

    There is mostly a discussion after you lose a round, but you should always stay in a normal language range.

    Yea unfortunately experienced players yelling at their less experienced teammates and blaming them for a loss (regardless of whether or not they deserve it) is very common. I wish server ops/admins/moderators were less tolerant of this behavior... there's simply no good reason to let these people continue to ruin the experience of others, just on the off chance that they grow a spine -- just kick/ban them and move on.

    Inexperienced players can be just as toxic. If they don't blame the team, then they blame the other team ("stacking") and even the game (imbalanced). Great job perpetuating bias against your most dedicated players though. Maybe take a look at the shiny yellow border you have?
    Kouji_San
  • KasharicKasharic Hull, England Join Date: 2013-03-27 Member: 184473Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, NS2 Community Developer Posts: 685 Advanced user
    Aeglos wrote: »
    BeigeAlert wrote: »
    Ripper2fg wrote: »
    I saw a lot of T5 + T6 players blaming others for "not listening etc." even if they are T1/T2.

    People seem to forget that its still a public game. There fore is Comp and the NSL in my Opinion.

    I am relativly aware from such behavior and ignore those people.

    Best Example: A few days ago there was an T6 (on the edge to T7) and after a win he got promoted. The Round after he lost (as Marine) and he was absolutly yelling at people "who didn't listen" and "who are s*it, and suck at aiming". Nearly everybody was T0 to T3. Those people are toxic as hell and should be blamed.

    There is mostly a discussion after you lose a round, but you should always stay in a normal language range.

    Yea unfortunately experienced players yelling at their less experienced teammates and blaming them for a loss (regardless of whether or not they deserve it) is very common. I wish server ops/admins/moderators were less tolerant of this behavior... there's simply no good reason to let these people continue to ruin the experience of others, just on the off chance that they grow a spine -- just kick/ban them and move on.

    Inexperienced players can be just as toxic. If they don't blame the team, then they blame the other team ("stacking") and even the game (imbalanced). Great job perpetuating bias against your most dedicated players though. Maybe take a look at the shiny yellow border you have?

    LOL, I've played with a LOT of people over the past 7 years... the "newbie" that is toxic is as rare as unicorn shit.. the toxic T7 is a common sight.

    To accuse a dev of perpetuating bias is hilarious... I think what you'll actually see here is a Dev admiting a fault within the community he is a member of and constantly and consistantly works his ass off to improve and provide for... feel free to step down from your soapbox sometime.
    Meph isn't an NSL admin anymore!

    #blameHefty
    Kouji_San
  • NordicNordic Long term camping in Kodiak Join Date: 2012-05-13 Member: 151995Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 4,771 Advanced user
    I have commonly seen toxic inexperienced players, but not as commonly as t7's. T7 players also play a lot more often so they may be more visible. Regardless of how skilled the player is, it is a fault within the community. We are not as bad as LOL but bad is bad.
    From my perspective UWE has been trying to both with what little resources they have given to the game. They don't have an AAA budget, let alone an indie game budget. They have the budget of a game that has been out 6 years. I want to say, don't half ass two things, whole ass one thing. I just don't think they have the resources to do it. Unlike many of the people on the forums, I guess I am just happy they are at least trying even though I may not like what they end up doing.
    KasharicKouji_San
  • aeroripperaeroripper Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42471NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation Posts: 2,415 mod
    Nordic wrote: »
    Frozen wrote: »
    Shoot the hive.

    My ex girlfriend used to make fun of me yelling shoot the hive so much. I don't know why it is so hard for people to all focus on the biggest thing in the room.

    Because it's an elephant. Ignoring the obvious is one of the most hysterical group activities you can participate in

    Marines walk into an alien hive and avoid looking at it like it's the eye of sauron and then proceed to shoot everything else, especially gorges.
    Kouji_San
  • AeglosAeglos Join Date: 2010-04-06 Member: 71189Members Posts: 622 Advanced user
    Kasharic wrote: »
    Aeglos wrote: »
    BeigeAlert wrote: »
    Ripper2fg wrote: »
    I saw a lot of T5 + T6 players blaming others for "not listening etc." even if they are T1/T2.

    People seem to forget that its still a public game. There fore is Comp and the NSL in my Opinion.

    I am relativly aware from such behavior and ignore those people.

    Best Example: A few days ago there was an T6 (on the edge to T7) and after a win he got promoted. The Round after he lost (as Marine) and he was absolutly yelling at people "who didn't listen" and "who are s*it, and suck at aiming". Nearly everybody was T0 to T3. Those people are toxic as hell and should be blamed.

    There is mostly a discussion after you lose a round, but you should always stay in a normal language range.

    Yea unfortunately experienced players yelling at their less experienced teammates and blaming them for a loss (regardless of whether or not they deserve it) is very common. I wish server ops/admins/moderators were less tolerant of this behavior... there's simply no good reason to let these people continue to ruin the experience of others, just on the off chance that they grow a spine -- just kick/ban them and move on.

    Inexperienced players can be just as toxic. If they don't blame the team, then they blame the other team ("stacking") and even the game (imbalanced). Great job perpetuating bias against your most dedicated players though. Maybe take a look at the shiny yellow border you have?

    LOL, I've played with a LOT of people over the past 7 years... the "newbie" that is toxic is as rare as unicorn shit.. the toxic T7 is a common sight.

    To accuse a dev of perpetuating bias is hilarious... I think what you'll actually see here is a Dev admiting a fault within the community he is a member of and constantly and consistantly works his ass off to improve and provide for... feel free to step down from your soapbox sometime.

    You're a joke. This is exactly the type of bias that has been perpetuated. Toxic people are toxic. There is a portion of people who become stuck up afterwards but that is not the entire population. Also, your idea that a developer cannot damage their own community is hilarious and apparently unicorn shit is rather common too. Feel free to leave the herd sometime.
    Nordic wrote: »
    I have commonly seen toxic inexperienced players, but not as commonly as t7's. T7 players also play a lot more often so they may be more visible. Regardless of how skilled the player is, it is a fault within the community. We are not as bad as LOL but bad is bad.

    Statistically unlikely. There are barely a handful of T7s. The same people doing it often doesn't mean there are more of them. More incidents maybe, but definitely not more players. Otherwise we might as well blacklist all Brits because of that one player and his smurfs.

    That is besides the point though. Experienced players are usually T3/4 and above. Not sure why we are limiting the discussion to T7s.
  • SquishpokePOOPFACESquishpokePOOPFACE -21,248 posts (ignore below) Join Date: 2012-10-31 Member: 165262Members, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 1,653 Advanced user
    Be the change you want to see
    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to play Natural Selection 2. The gameplay is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of military strategy and advanced mathematics you won't even win a single game. Theres also the game's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into the game. The maps and artwork draw heavily from Riddley Scott's Alien franchise, for instance. The players understand this stuff, they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depth of the game, to realise that it's not just great, that it also says something about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Natural Selection 2 truly ARE idiots. of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in the Marines' existential catchphrase "how do I get to be so good", which itself is a cryptic reference to the high degree of intelligence required to play the game as intended. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion when spectating a game. What fools... how I pity them. And, yes, by the way, i DO have a Fade tatoo. And no, you cannot see it. it's for the ladies' eyes only, and even then they have to demonstrate that they are within 50 hive skill points of my own (preferable lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid.
    NordicKouji_San
  • SquishpokePOOPFACESquishpokePOOPFACE -21,248 posts (ignore below) Join Date: 2012-10-31 Member: 165262Members, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 1,653 Advanced user
    Put a rubber ducky on your desk and yell at that smug yellow ducker instead of at your team
    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to play Natural Selection 2. The gameplay is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of military strategy and advanced mathematics you won't even win a single game. Theres also the game's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into the game. The maps and artwork draw heavily from Riddley Scott's Alien franchise, for instance. The players understand this stuff, they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depth of the game, to realise that it's not just great, that it also says something about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Natural Selection 2 truly ARE idiots. of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in the Marines' existential catchphrase "how do I get to be so good", which itself is a cryptic reference to the high degree of intelligence required to play the game as intended. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion when spectating a game. What fools... how I pity them. And, yes, by the way, i DO have a Fade tatoo. And no, you cannot see it. it's for the ladies' eyes only, and even then they have to demonstrate that they are within 50 hive skill points of my own (preferable lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid.
    twiliteblueNordicKouji_San
  • SquishpokePOOPFACESquishpokePOOPFACE -21,248 posts (ignore below) Join Date: 2012-10-31 Member: 165262Members, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 1,653 Advanced user
    Speak up against bullies and teach people how to mute/votekick
    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to play Natural Selection 2. The gameplay is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of military strategy and advanced mathematics you won't even win a single game. Theres also the game's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into the game. The maps and artwork draw heavily from Riddley Scott's Alien franchise, for instance. The players understand this stuff, they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depth of the game, to realise that it's not just great, that it also says something about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Natural Selection 2 truly ARE idiots. of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in the Marines' existential catchphrase "how do I get to be so good", which itself is a cryptic reference to the high degree of intelligence required to play the game as intended. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion when spectating a game. What fools... how I pity them. And, yes, by the way, i DO have a Fade tatoo. And no, you cannot see it. it's for the ladies' eyes only, and even then they have to demonstrate that they are within 50 hive skill points of my own (preferable lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid.
    NordicKouji_San
  • SquishpokePOOPFACESquishpokePOOPFACE -21,248 posts (ignore below) Join Date: 2012-10-31 Member: 165262Members, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 1,653 Advanced user
    And above all else support hong kong
    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to play Natural Selection 2. The gameplay is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of military strategy and advanced mathematics you won't even win a single game. Theres also the game's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into the game. The maps and artwork draw heavily from Riddley Scott's Alien franchise, for instance. The players understand this stuff, they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depth of the game, to realise that it's not just great, that it also says something about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Natural Selection 2 truly ARE idiots. of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in the Marines' existential catchphrase "how do I get to be so good", which itself is a cryptic reference to the high degree of intelligence required to play the game as intended. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion when spectating a game. What fools... how I pity them. And, yes, by the way, i DO have a Fade tatoo. And no, you cannot see it. it's for the ladies' eyes only, and even then they have to demonstrate that they are within 50 hive skill points of my own (preferable lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid.
    NordicKouji_San
  • NordicNordic Long term camping in Kodiak Join Date: 2012-05-13 Member: 151995Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 4,771 Advanced user
    edited October 31
    Natural Selection 2 is by far the most toxic game. I have skilled players on my right yelling at me because I am unable or unwilling to play how they want me to play. I have low skill players on the left of me dying to a strain line skulk, the skulk yelling at me because I hack and could kill him, and a comm yelling at the team because we aren't winning because I can't carry hard enough. The team is yelling at the comm because we are losing. The same thing is happening on the aliens because neither team is defending lanes, and nobody has res. Both teams are trying to concede.

    ...

    Too many games are like this. Why is it in ns2 that you need to play 9 bad or horrible games just to get one good one? Why can't the devs focus on fun? Not any fun, my fun which is different than your fun probably. Why do the devs keep catering to the competitive scene or casual players? Why can't we both increase and lower the skill ceiling? Why does no one make ns2 graphs in excel anymore? Why did blind, mendasp, Samus, and others have to go? Why can't I leave? Why is Tishka the way he is? Why can't we lower ping times so that interp shooting around corners doesn't happen?

    Oh and what the hell happened to per team hive skill values?
    From my perspective UWE has been trying to both with what little resources they have given to the game. They don't have an AAA budget, let alone an indie game budget. They have the budget of a game that has been out 6 years. I want to say, don't half ass two things, whole ass one thing. I just don't think they have the resources to do it. Unlike many of the people on the forums, I guess I am just happy they are at least trying even though I may not like what they end up doing.
    SquishpokePOOPFACEKouji_San
  • MephillesMephilles Germany Join Date: 2013-08-07 Member: 186634Members, NS2 Map Tester Posts: 958 Advanced user
    edited October 31
    @Nordic Don't know where you play but when I play pub games it is mostly chill

    return to zero
    Kouji_San
  • NordicNordic Long term camping in Kodiak Join Date: 2012-05-13 Member: 151995Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 4,771 Advanced user
    When I play, games are mostly hot hot hot!
    From my perspective UWE has been trying to both with what little resources they have given to the game. They don't have an AAA budget, let alone an indie game budget. They have the budget of a game that has been out 6 years. I want to say, don't half ass two things, whole ass one thing. I just don't think they have the resources to do it. Unlike many of the people on the forums, I guess I am just happy they are at least trying even though I may not like what they end up doing.
    Kouji_San
  • FrozenFrozen New York, NY Join Date: 2010-07-02 Member: 72228Members, Constellation Posts: 1,479 Advanced user
    Nordic wrote: »
    Frozen wrote: »
    Shoot the hive.

    My ex girlfriend used to make fun of me yelling shoot the hive so much. I don't know why it is so hard for people to all focus on the biggest thing in the room.

    Because the Hive is most of the time what you should shoot last.

    This is why games take an hour. For no reason.
    mattji104
    NordicKouji_San
  • WakeWake Join Date: 2003-03-05 Member: 14351Members, Constellation Posts: 722 Advanced user
    Hi there, gosh, it's been 16 years now lol. Can't believe it, 16 years !

    Elitism is inherent to a very rich but very demanding game , the best multiplayer game I ever played, but at some point, it become pretty much closed to new players.
    What would be your chances to learn tennis if your very first matches were only against the top 50 players ?

    Same thing happened to NS1.
    I quited because first of all, I play to have fun, hearing people raging, insulting each others is not fun.

    But I miss it, it is so unique !
    Freak out
    Kouji_San
  • YojimboYojimbo England Join Date: 2009-03-19 Member: 66806Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 1,248 Advanced user
    Ahhhh but the toxicity is what keeps us coming back :-)
    Today's rookies are tomorrow's vets.

    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

    George Carlin.
  • MoFo1MoFo1 United States Join Date: 2014-07-25 Member: 197612Members Posts: 727 Advanced user
    It's pointless to try to point out the toxicity as there are too many veterans that will come out of the woodwork to proclaim "THERE IS NO TOXICITY IN NS2!!!" to defend their beloved game.

    We've even had toxic server owners with friends who regularly broke their server's singular rule of "don't be a douche"

    Try to speak up about the toxicity and they call you a liar, point out how they're wrong and they ban you from their server, lie about your actions, and convince their developer friends that YOU are the toxic one. Then you end up getting wrongfully banned from the steam discussions board.


    Fortunately that server owner and his server are no longer around, which has led to slightly less toxicity overall. But sadly NS2 still has one of the most toxic communities of any multiplayer game I've ever played.

    Kasharic wrote: »
    LOL, I've played with a LOT of people over the past 7 years... the "newbie" that is toxic is as rare as unicorn shit.. the toxic T7 is a common sight.


    This is unfortunately VERY true, though I would amend it to include the tier 6 players.. THEY are the most toxic imo


  • NordicNordic Long term camping in Kodiak Join Date: 2012-05-13 Member: 151995Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 4,771 Advanced user
    We all know how easily you are upset Mofo.
    From my perspective UWE has been trying to both with what little resources they have given to the game. They don't have an AAA budget, let alone an indie game budget. They have the budget of a game that has been out 6 years. I want to say, don't half ass two things, whole ass one thing. I just don't think they have the resources to do it. Unlike many of the people on the forums, I guess I am just happy they are at least trying even though I may not like what they end up doing.
    Yojimbo
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