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YojimboYojimbo Advanced userEngland Join Date: 2009-03-19 Member: 66806Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 1,247 Advanced user
Hey all,
Glad to see NS2 is still thriving! What's new in NS2 world now days?

Glad to see familiar faces are still around, are there any dramatic changes made since nearly 2 years ago?

Be great to play with you all again :)

Yojimbo
Today's rookies are tomorrow's vets.

“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

George Carlin.
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  • YojimboYojimbo Advanced user England Join Date: 2009-03-19 Member: 66806Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 1,247 Advanced user
    Hey Mephillies how's things! I remember you well :) glad to see you still going strong
    Today's rookies are tomorrow's vets.

    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

    George Carlin.
  • NordicNordic Advanced user Long term camping in Kodiak Join Date: 2012-05-13 Member: 151995Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 4,743 Advanced user
    edited May 5
    The forums are all but dead. They recently had a controversial patch which is the only reason the forums have any recent activity. You could literally look through the last 10 newest threads in this subforum to see how it is.

    The game isn't dead yet. The population is about the same..

    Discord is king for NS2 discussion now.

    Official NS2 Discord
    https://discord.gg/UyzfF4H

    NSL Discord
    https://discord.gg/aVdDwVC

    House of Awesome Discord
    https://discord.gg/6QXrnFn

    The Thirsty Onos Discord
    https://discord.gg/kAxuSXY

    Wooza Discord
    https://discord.gg/0v5uwb6jDlQ7tKWs

    Ibis Discord
    https://discord.gg/6geUu8J

    Russian Discord
    https://discord.gg/cTau9FS

    Gorge Selection Discord
    https://discord.gg/ubRWNkC

    DMD Discord
    https://discordapp.com/invite/FMGTMVH

    Tishka Discord
    https://discord.gg/n4477ra

    NS1 Discord
    https://discord.gg/ZUSSBUA

    What was the TGNS community Discord
    https://discord.gg/V68k5C5

    Nordic's Hideout Discord
    https://discord.gg/JN9JZHh
    From my perspective UWE has been trying to both with what little resources they have given to the game. They don't have an AAA budget, let alone an indie game budget. They have the budget of a game that has been out 6 years. I want to say, don't half ass two things, whole ass one thing. I just don't think they have the resources to do it. Unlike many of the people on the forums, I guess I am just happy they are at least trying even though I may not like what they end up doing.
    KasharicYojimbo
  • VetinariVetinari Advanced user Join Date: 2013-07-23 Member: 186325Members, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver Posts: 3,465 Advanced user
    The forums are run by Nordic at this point.
    formerly known as F0rdPrefect

    I am good Onos
    skav2
  • NordicNordic Advanced user Long term camping in Kodiak Join Date: 2012-05-13 Member: 151995Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 4,743 Advanced user
    Vetinari wrote: »
    The forums are run by Nordic at this point.

    It is the one bridge I can't burn and I lack the self discipline to just walk away. It is still fun to fight the good fight for 8v8 on these irrelevant forums. Us dedicated few scream at each other while no one listens.
    From my perspective UWE has been trying to both with what little resources they have given to the game. They don't have an AAA budget, let alone an indie game budget. They have the budget of a game that has been out 6 years. I want to say, don't half ass two things, whole ass one thing. I just don't think they have the resources to do it. Unlike many of the people on the forums, I guess I am just happy they are at least trying even though I may not like what they end up doing.
    VetinariBeigeAlert
  • SquishpokePOOPFACESquishpokePOOPFACE Advanced user -21,248 posts (ignore below) Join Date: 2012-10-31 Member: 165262Members, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 1,627 Advanced user
    edited May 6
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    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to play Natural Selection 2. The gameplay is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of military strategy and advanced mathematics you won't even win a single game. Theres also the game's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into the game. The maps and artwork draw heavily from Riddley Scott's Alien franchise, for instance. The players understand this stuff, they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depth of the game, to realise that it's not just great, that it also says something about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Natural Selection 2 truly ARE idiots. of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in the Marines' existential catchphrase "how do I get to be so good", which itself is a cryptic reference to the high degree of intelligence required to play the game as intended. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion when spectating a game. What fools... how I pity them. And, yes, by the way, i DO have a Fade tatoo. And no, you cannot see it. it's for the ladies' eyes only, and even then they have to demonstrate that they are within 50 hive skill points of my own (preferable lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid.
  • NintendowsNintendows Advanced user Join Date: 2016-11-07 Member: 223716Members, Squad Five Blue Posts: 379 Advanced user
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    Ah I see you play on @TISHKA_DRONT 's servers! He currently runs the only 8v8 servers :smiley:
    SquishpokePOOPFACE
  • NordicNordic Advanced user Long term camping in Kodiak Join Date: 2012-05-13 Member: 151995Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 4,743 Advanced user
    Nintendows wrote: »
    E I G H T V E R S U S E I G H T
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    Ah I see you play on @TISHKA_DRONT 's servers! He currently runs the only 8v8 servers :smiley:

    Hi.

    I see that you understand why we must fight the good fight then. Tishka shouldn't be the only 8v8.
    From my perspective UWE has been trying to both with what little resources they have given to the game. They don't have an AAA budget, let alone an indie game budget. They have the budget of a game that has been out 6 years. I want to say, don't half ass two things, whole ass one thing. I just don't think they have the resources to do it. Unlike many of the people on the forums, I guess I am just happy they are at least trying even though I may not like what they end up doing.
  • SquishpokePOOPFACESquishpokePOOPFACE Advanced user -21,248 posts (ignore below) Join Date: 2012-10-31 Member: 165262Members, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 1,627 Advanced user
    His server actually isn't bad, and I have played on it twice in the last few days. All hail Lord Tishka
    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to play Natural Selection 2. The gameplay is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of military strategy and advanced mathematics you won't even win a single game. Theres also the game's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into the game. The maps and artwork draw heavily from Riddley Scott's Alien franchise, for instance. The players understand this stuff, they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depth of the game, to realise that it's not just great, that it also says something about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Natural Selection 2 truly ARE idiots. of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in the Marines' existential catchphrase "how do I get to be so good", which itself is a cryptic reference to the high degree of intelligence required to play the game as intended. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion when spectating a game. What fools... how I pity them. And, yes, by the way, i DO have a Fade tatoo. And no, you cannot see it. it's for the ladies' eyes only, and even then they have to demonstrate that they are within 50 hive skill points of my own (preferable lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid.
  • YojimboYojimbo Advanced user England Join Date: 2009-03-19 Member: 66806Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 1,247 Advanced user
    I heard a horrifying rumor gorge tunnels are removed!?
    Today's rookies are tomorrow's vets.

    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

    George Carlin.
    Nintendows
  • .trixX..trixX. Advanced user Budapest Join Date: 2007-10-11 Member: 62605Members Posts: 856 Advanced user
    Yojimbo wrote: »
    I heard a horrifying rumor gorge tunnels are removed!?

    LIES AND DECEPTION!
    ...they got moved to the commander.
    NO Cyril, when they're dead they're just hookers!
    Vetinari
  • KasharicKasharic Advanced user Hull, England Join Date: 2013-03-27 Member: 184473Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, NS2 Community Developer Posts: 683 Advanced user
    Yojimbo wrote: »
    I heard a horrifying rumor gorge tunnels are removed!?

    In general, its only horrifying to those that don't actually play the game... those that do saw the necessity as it wasn't uncommon to see 3 Tunnels up securing 2/3 of a map within the first 2 - 3 minutes of a round.

    It was moved to the commander to limit how many you can have at a time by tying them to how many hives you have, while also applying the limitation of needing infestation.
    Meph isn't an NSL admin anymore!

    #blameHefty
    VetinariNintendowsSupaFred
  • NordicNordic Advanced user Long term camping in Kodiak Join Date: 2012-05-13 Member: 151995Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 4,743 Advanced user
    Let's see how many off topics nin will give me.

    I like chocolate.
    From my perspective UWE has been trying to both with what little resources they have given to the game. They don't have an AAA budget, let alone an indie game budget. They have the budget of a game that has been out 6 years. I want to say, don't half ass two things, whole ass one thing. I just don't think they have the resources to do it. Unlike many of the people on the forums, I guess I am just happy they are at least trying even though I may not like what they end up doing.
  • SquishpokePOOPFACESquishpokePOOPFACE Advanced user -21,248 posts (ignore below) Join Date: 2012-10-31 Member: 165262Members, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 1,627 Advanced user
    Same
    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to play Natural Selection 2. The gameplay is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of military strategy and advanced mathematics you won't even win a single game. Theres also the game's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into the game. The maps and artwork draw heavily from Riddley Scott's Alien franchise, for instance. The players understand this stuff, they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depth of the game, to realise that it's not just great, that it also says something about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Natural Selection 2 truly ARE idiots. of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in the Marines' existential catchphrase "how do I get to be so good", which itself is a cryptic reference to the high degree of intelligence required to play the game as intended. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion when spectating a game. What fools... how I pity them. And, yes, by the way, i DO have a Fade tatoo. And no, you cannot see it. it's for the ladies' eyes only, and even then they have to demonstrate that they are within 50 hive skill points of my own (preferable lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid.
  • SquishpokePOOPFACESquishpokePOOPFACE Advanced user -21,248 posts (ignore below) Join Date: 2012-10-31 Member: 165262Members, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 1,627 Advanced user
    No it isn't. There is a huge lack of 8v8 evangelism on his discord
    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to play Natural Selection 2. The gameplay is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of military strategy and advanced mathematics you won't even win a single game. Theres also the game's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into the game. The maps and artwork draw heavily from Riddley Scott's Alien franchise, for instance. The players understand this stuff, they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depth of the game, to realise that it's not just great, that it also says something about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Natural Selection 2 truly ARE idiots. of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in the Marines' existential catchphrase "how do I get to be so good", which itself is a cryptic reference to the high degree of intelligence required to play the game as intended. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion when spectating a game. What fools... how I pity them. And, yes, by the way, i DO have a Fade tatoo. And no, you cannot see it. it's for the ladies' eyes only, and even then they have to demonstrate that they are within 50 hive skill points of my own (preferable lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid.
    Nordic
  • TheriusTherius Advanced user Join Date: 2009-03-06 Member: 66642Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Supporter Posts: 750 Advanced user
    I sort of forgot this game and you people existed.
    NordicKasharicSquishpokePOOPFACEjrgn
  • jrgnjrgn Advanced user Join Date: 2006-11-03 Member: 58289Members Posts: 141 Advanced user
    .trixX. wrote: »
    Yojimbo wrote: »
    I heard a horrifying rumor gorge tunnels are removed!?

    LIES AND DECEPTION!
    ...they got moved to the commander.
    ...and the comm is a tunnel! ;D
  • jrgnjrgn Advanced user Join Date: 2006-11-03 Member: 58289Members Posts: 141 Advanced user
    Nordic wrote: »
    Vetinari wrote: »
    The forums are run by Nordic at this point.

    It is the one bridge I can't burn and I lack the self discipline to just walk away. It is still fun to fight the good fight for 8v8 on these irrelevant forums. Us dedicated few scream at each other while no one listens.
    Almost evangelic. For discord. 8 vs 8 won't work on pubs. I respect that you are wrong.

  • SquishpokePOOPFACESquishpokePOOPFACE Advanced user -21,248 posts (ignore below) Join Date: 2012-10-31 Member: 165262Members, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 1,627 Advanced user
    jrgn wrote: »
    Nordic wrote: »
    Vetinari wrote: »
    The forums are run by Nordic at this point.

    It is the one bridge I can't burn and I lack the self discipline to just walk away. It is still fun to fight the good fight for 8v8 on these irrelevant forums. Us dedicated few scream at each other while no one listens.
    Almost evangelic. For discord. 8 vs 8 won't work on pubs. I respect that you are wrong.

    LMFAO! 8v8 on TA's wonitor shows even win rates across the board, with the exception of captains (with sample size too small).


    https://imgur.com/MvTeUvx
    Low skill 8v8
    http://wonitor.hashtagawesome.net/configurator.html#x=winner&y=count&map_mt=ns2_*&numPlayers_ge=16&averageSkill_ge=3000
    High skill 8v8
    Show me a sngle server with even win rates for anything above 8v8 or else stay mired in shame and disrespect




    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to play Natural Selection 2. The gameplay is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of military strategy and advanced mathematics you won't even win a single game. Theres also the game's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into the game. The maps and artwork draw heavily from Riddley Scott's Alien franchise, for instance. The players understand this stuff, they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depth of the game, to realise that it's not just great, that it also says something about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Natural Selection 2 truly ARE idiots. of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in the Marines' existential catchphrase "how do I get to be so good", which itself is a cryptic reference to the high degree of intelligence required to play the game as intended. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion when spectating a game. What fools... how I pity them. And, yes, by the way, i DO have a Fade tatoo. And no, you cannot see it. it's for the ladies' eyes only, and even then they have to demonstrate that they are within 50 hive skill points of my own (preferable lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid.
  • NordicNordic Advanced user Long term camping in Kodiak Join Date: 2012-05-13 Member: 151995Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 4,743 Advanced user
    jrgn wrote: »
    Nordic wrote: »
    Vetinari wrote: »
    The forums are run by Nordic at this point.

    It is the one bridge I can't burn and I lack the self discipline to just walk away. It is still fun to fight the good fight for 8v8 on these irrelevant forums. Us dedicated few scream at each other while no one listens.
    Almost evangelic. For discord. 8 vs 8 won't work on pubs. I respect that you are wrong.

    8v8 has worked great for pubs in the past. In fact it was the best. It is harder to keep an 8v8 server seeded though, if there are bigger servers. It is a tragedy of the commons scenario.
    From my perspective UWE has been trying to both with what little resources they have given to the game. They don't have an AAA budget, let alone an indie game budget. They have the budget of a game that has been out 6 years. I want to say, don't half ass two things, whole ass one thing. I just don't think they have the resources to do it. Unlike many of the people on the forums, I guess I am just happy they are at least trying even though I may not like what they end up doing.
  • NordicNordic Advanced user Long term camping in Kodiak Join Date: 2012-05-13 Member: 151995Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 4,743 Advanced user
    I am sorry my fellow 8v8 zealot but winrates are not very meaningful. Even winrates shouldn't be the objective. Quality and fun gameplay should be, which is why 8v8 is best.
    From my perspective UWE has been trying to both with what little resources they have given to the game. They don't have an AAA budget, let alone an indie game budget. They have the budget of a game that has been out 6 years. I want to say, don't half ass two things, whole ass one thing. I just don't think they have the resources to do it. Unlike many of the people on the forums, I guess I am just happy they are at least trying even though I may not like what they end up doing.
  • SquishpokePOOPFACESquishpokePOOPFACE Advanced user -21,248 posts (ignore below) Join Date: 2012-10-31 Member: 165262Members, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 1,627 Advanced user
    Yes but clearly non-8v8 heathens do not care for fun nor quality, but instead play abysmal 10v10+ rounds and then whine about imbalance.

    I merely speak the truth to their hearts, so they may listen and repent
    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to play Natural Selection 2. The gameplay is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of military strategy and advanced mathematics you won't even win a single game. Theres also the game's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into the game. The maps and artwork draw heavily from Riddley Scott's Alien franchise, for instance. The players understand this stuff, they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depth of the game, to realise that it's not just great, that it also says something about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Natural Selection 2 truly ARE idiots. of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in the Marines' existential catchphrase "how do I get to be so good", which itself is a cryptic reference to the high degree of intelligence required to play the game as intended. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion when spectating a game. What fools... how I pity them. And, yes, by the way, i DO have a Fade tatoo. And no, you cannot see it. it's for the ladies' eyes only, and even then they have to demonstrate that they are within 50 hive skill points of my own (preferable lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid.
  • AeglosAeglos Advanced user Join Date: 2010-04-06 Member: 71189Members Posts: 618 Advanced user
    Nordic wrote: »
    jrgn wrote: »
    Nordic wrote: »
    Vetinari wrote: »
    The forums are run by Nordic at this point.

    It is the one bridge I can't burn and I lack the self discipline to just walk away. It is still fun to fight the good fight for 8v8 on these irrelevant forums. Us dedicated few scream at each other while no one listens.
    Almost evangelic. For discord. 8 vs 8 won't work on pubs. I respect that you are wrong.

    8v8 has worked great for pubs in the past. In fact it was the best. It is harder to keep an 8v8 server seeded though, if there are bigger servers.
    It is a tragedy of the commons scenario.

    Fixed that for you.
  • MephillesMephilles Advanced user Germany Join Date: 2013-08-07 Member: 186634Members, NS2 Map Tester Posts: 955 Advanced user
    I never see an active 8v8 server. If I would I'd probably join them
    return to zero
    Kasharic.trixX.
  • .trixX..trixX. Advanced user Budapest Join Date: 2007-10-11 Member: 62605Members Posts: 856 Advanced user
    Mephilles wrote: »
    I never see an active 8v8 server. If I would I'd probably join them

    Hmm... it's as if most of the playerbase preferred 12v12 :P
    NO Cyril, when they're dead they're just hookers!
    jrgn
  • AeglosAeglos Advanced user Join Date: 2010-04-06 Member: 71189Members Posts: 618 Advanced user
    Lol, disagrees but complete inability to form an argument.
  • NordicNordic Advanced user Long term camping in Kodiak Join Date: 2012-05-13 Member: 151995Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow Posts: 4,743 Advanced user
    Aeglos wrote: »
    Lol, disagrees but complete inability to form an argument.

    I have shared my argument already. No point saying it again.
    From my perspective UWE has been trying to both with what little resources they have given to the game. They don't have an AAA budget, let alone an indie game budget. They have the budget of a game that has been out 6 years. I want to say, don't half ass two things, whole ass one thing. I just don't think they have the resources to do it. Unlike many of the people on the forums, I guess I am just happy they are at least trying even though I may not like what they end up doing.
    .trixX.Nintendows
  • AeglosAeglos Advanced user Join Date: 2010-04-06 Member: 71189Members Posts: 618 Advanced user
    It's a different argument from the one which you ended with you disagreeing, doubling down but explaining nothing.

    Then, there is this.
    Nordic wrote: »
    8v8 servers are genuinely harder to keep seeded than 12v12 servers, so people will move around between different servers more frequently

    Are we assuming that all replacements are simultaneous now?

    That is besides ignoring that a major part of your argument for 8v8 depends on 8v8 being "harder to keep seeded" by the way.
  • .trixX..trixX. Advanced user Budapest Join Date: 2007-10-11 Member: 62605Members Posts: 856 Advanced user
    edited May 10
    Aeglos wrote: »
    It's a different argument from the one which you ended with you disagreeing, doubling down but explaining nothing.

    Then, there is this.
    Nordic wrote: »
    8v8 servers are genuinely harder to keep seeded than 12v12 servers, so people will move around between different servers more frequently

    Are we assuming that all replacements are simultaneous now?

    That is besides ignoring that a major part of your argument for 8v8 depends on 8v8 being "harder to keep seeded" by the way.

    So, fair and honest reasoning is frowned upon? :P

    After starting this thread, poor @Yojimbo be like:
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    NO Cyril, when they're dead they're just hookers!
    Mephilles
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