Move "Concede" to commander
bork
Brest, Belarus Join Date: 2018-08-10 Member: 242760Members
When commander surrender, he should start the vote for game end. Not the team, what get emotions after each kill.
Remove concede from team, add this button to hive/CC.
If commander press it - the team can press X menu and click button, what appear there (means "i agreed, concede"). Damn my team concede when i have 5 RTs.... i tried ask, tried cry, tried medspam after first concede proposal - guys just think that gamewin is the lucky, if no - restart.
After commander pressing this button - one eject vote enough to eject and replace it to new commander if you sure, that you can get the game.
Concede allows players restart the game without punish. That's bad. If he must press F4 and wait in ready room (like ns1) or rejoin to allow other player to connect - would be great.
Better shout "F4 guys" than "let's restart"
Remove concede from team, add this button to hive/CC.
If commander press it - the team can press X menu and click button, what appear there (means "i agreed, concede"). Damn my team concede when i have 5 RTs.... i tried ask, tried cry, tried medspam after first concede proposal - guys just think that gamewin is the lucky, if no - restart.
After commander pressing this button - one eject vote enough to eject and replace it to new commander if you sure, that you can get the game.
Concede allows players restart the game without punish. That's bad. If he must press F4 and wait in ready room (like ns1) or rejoin to allow other player to connect - would be great.
Better shout "F4 guys" than "let's restart"
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It's already hard enough to get people to finish a concede vote, now you'd need to convince someone to start it as well. I don't think this is a good idea. How often have you had lost because your commander wouldn't communicate at all? You would have to play all those matches to the bitter end now.
So commander punish its often practics. I see half team + spectators wants to end the game, i sell the ips, and people ban me for 2 minutes because "there is a rules - not sell ip".
Who's right? rulewriter or 12 guys waiting for play? nvm
The rule writer... its their server, don't like it? play elsewhere.
Those 12 people waiting to play could be seeding a different server, populating instead of queuing in a system not intended for queuing.
Giving 1 person the opportunity to troll is always a bad idea and as such, should be avoided. A "team of trolls" is incredibly unlikely, and if the whole team is trolling and you're the only one that disagrees... why should there be a mechanic that panders to your whims? you are the minority in that situation.
Increase amount of votes required, or don't enable the concede option until X minutes. Typically pubs are "oh we lost 2 rt's 6 minutes in, concede bois"
Just tired of question: "why we concede? we have 5rts"
Reason is: guy was killed by high-tier skulk and except of complaining - he's convincing team to surrender...
Currently one solution is - become FUNNY comm - you start to laugh, joke and increase moral of rest team. It stops conceding for a now... People psy.
Yep, its leader thing... but not the requirement of commanders
Montgomery was a narcissistic arse, and his commanding skills were questionable at best (El Alamein was more of a luck than skills).
BUT, he was a terrific motivator for the troops. That quality of his landed him as one of the greatest generals of the 20th century....
Sure, this is just a game, but the same logic applies on a smaller scale ;]
I don't know if it's an NS2+ feature, but you can concede as a comm by pressing M in the chair.
That's a Shine feature. Like many features in that mod, it really should just be vanilla.
How would this be fair?
However, commanders can get pretty emotional too, so giving them total control over conceding isn't optimal as well. Maybe simply increasing the weight of the commanders vote would be enough to guide the vote in the right direction while giving the team an option to overrule the comm when he/she is obviously wrong.