[SOLVED] New GTX 1070 - Game No Longer Playable?

SkyeRangerDeltaSkyeRangerDelta Rorikstead, Skyrim Join Date: 2017-02-12 Member: 227851Members
edited February 2017 in Subnautica Bug Reporting
Hi everyone,

I've tried the Steam forums already, but I figured that posting here might help significantly. I recently bought a new Asus STRIX 1070 (loving this beast too), which runs GTA V in ultra at 60 fps. When I booted up Subnautica (been waiting to as well, integrated graphics are so bad), I couldn't change my water quality setting. It's stuck on Medium. I can change the overall quality of the game and the other settings, but I can't change the water settings. And when I go in-game, I get sudden and unexpected frame drops. I run it as 60fps, and then BOOM, 1 or maybe even 2 fps. It's hardly playable.

My new system that I built ran my dad's 650Ti (2GB Vram) for a little while (like a week or so) before I bought the 1070 and it ran it on ultra at about 40fps, why did it run so well on the 650Ti and it's running like garbage on my new 1070? Is the game not optimized for this hardware?

Please help, this is one of my favorite games.

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  • 0x6A72320x6A7232 US Join Date: 2016-10-06 Member: 222906Members
    If you're using GSync, disable it for Subnautica. There's an issue with Unity and GSync. Also, you can try clearing your cache, but that's usually a problem that happens after 10-20 hours of playing, not immediately. Still, if you want to try that, there's a link in the first line of my signature. ▼ Down there.
  • SkyeRangerDeltaSkyeRangerDelta Rorikstead, Skyrim Join Date: 2017-02-12 Member: 227851Members
    GSync an Nvidia control panel thing?
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    GSync an Nvidia control panel thing?

    It should be here:

    a-setGsync1.jpg
  • SkyeRangerDeltaSkyeRangerDelta Rorikstead, Skyrim Join Date: 2017-02-12 Member: 227851Members
    I don't even have that tab, so I don't think that g-sync is the problem. I thought it might be a thing under vertical sync, but it's set to application controlled. I'll clear my cache, but I just re-installed the game and wiped my saves, so I don't think that doing that will do anything.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited February 2017
    I think your monitor also needs G-Sync support and have it's driver installed for it to show up. So it might be your monitor has no support.

    Just think of it as a good V-Sync without bufferlag. Freesync is the FREE alternative, but NVIDIA refuses to use that.
  • SkyeRangerDeltaSkyeRangerDelta Rorikstead, Skyrim Join Date: 2017-02-12 Member: 227851Members
    I'm fairly certain that a GTX 1070 can support G-Sync...but if it's not installed, doesn't that support the case of "If you're using GSync, disable it for Subnautica. " from the above post?
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited February 2017
    Oh it definitely has support, but as I said it needs a monitor with G-Sync support as well. And yeah, if it doesn't show up in your settings, it's indeed disabled and not the cause of this issue.

    Could it be your card is overheating? I ask this mostly because you can play for a while and then suddenly get the extreme FPS issue.

    Also, I'm not sure what the power requirements are on this card. But if you simply upgraded your card in an older systems, it could be that the power supply unit is not cutting it for this card, causing it to clock down perhaps...
  • SkyeRangerDeltaSkyeRangerDelta Rorikstead, Skyrim Join Date: 2017-02-12 Member: 227851Members
    I promise that it's not being under powered. I have an 850W PSU in this thing. Overheating is very doubtful, I tried to play this morning right after having turned the PC on cold. It's still cold right now. The thing has 3 fans on it too. :smiley:
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Alright, just trying to narrow down the issue. But @0x6A7232 can help ya out better than I can, he's like our magic problem solver for Subnautica :D
  • 0x6A72320x6A7232 US Join Date: 2016-10-06 Member: 222906Members
    I promise that it's not being under powered. I have an 850W PSU in this thing. Overheating is very doubtful, I tried to play this morning right after having turned the PC on cold. It's still cold right now. The thing has 3 fans on it too. :smiley:

    What brand?
  • SkyeRangerDeltaSkyeRangerDelta Rorikstead, Skyrim Join Date: 2017-02-12 Member: 227851Members
    The Graphics card is: ASUS STRIX GeForce GTX 1070 8GB

    The PSU is an Antec 850W Bronze (black and yellow like a bumblebee)

    I hope we can resolve this issue quickly, I wont have access to the internet after 9pm EST
  • 0x6A72320x6A7232 US Join Date: 2016-10-06 Member: 222906Members
    edited February 2017
    The Graphics card is: ASUS STRIX GeForce GTX 1070 8GB

    The PSU is an Antec 850W Bronze (black and yellow like a bumblebee)

    I hope we can resolve this issue quickly, I wont have access to the internet after 9pm EST

    Did you uninstall your old graphics card drivers? Some need to completely remove them with Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU), which completely removes all traces of drivers. Download the latest nVidia driver installer, download DDU, run DDU to purge old drivers, then install the latest nVidia drivers. I'm on the Subnautica Discord server if you want to hop on for live chat. username jr2 / 0x6A7232 #7451
  • SkyeRangerDeltaSkyeRangerDelta Rorikstead, Skyrim Join Date: 2017-02-12 Member: 227851Members
    I installed the graphics drivers that came on the disk....

    and then I updated them back up to the latest driver. I'll run these steps as you say to see if it works. (added on discord)
  • TarkannenTarkannen North Carolina Join Date: 2016-08-15 Member: 221304Members
    edited February 2017
    My new system that I built ran my dad's 650Ti (2GB Vram) for a little while (like a week or so) before I bought the 1070 and it ran it on ultra at about 40fps, why did it run so well on the 650Ti and it's running like garbage on my new 1070? Is the game not optimized for this hardware?

    I don't have much input for advice, but I wanted to chime in: my Dell Vostro 230 also runs on the nVidia GTX 650Ti, and Subnautica runs like a dream... well, outside of the PC being limited to 4GB of memory. After the last update in January, Subnautica runs so much better now even when running on the Recommended graphics setting. The Highest graphics effects look *stellar* but the FPS takes a serious hit if I move around too quickly in the world. High Water Quality effects also look beautiful and runs fine, but I keep it on Medium also since 90% of the time you're below water and can't see the effect directly. (I'm assuming High Water Quality uses more resources even if the game is not actively rendering the water surface.)

    One thing I'd like to point out, and maybe it's how the Unity engine works... I can load Subnautica fresh and change the Graphics and Water Quality settings all day long without any performance hitches. But if I attempt to change it at any time while playing the game (say if I want to improve or decrease the visuals), the game hangs and stops responding. I'll then have to crash the game and relaunch it, where I can once again change the video quality before loading the save file. Why is it I have no problem changing the visuals before launch but I can't do it while *actually* playing the game? :confused:
  • SkyeRangerDeltaSkyeRangerDelta Rorikstead, Skyrim Join Date: 2017-02-12 Member: 227851Members
    Well, that's good and all, but I'm at the point where, I shouldn't have to worry about having to use the recommended graphics. I'm being forced to use medium, when I couold betaking glamorous screenshots in the almighty power of this incredible 1070 which makes the fps go really high, kind of thing. xD

    I've never had a crash before in Subnautica...ever. Even when changing settings in-game.
  • SkyeRangerDeltaSkyeRangerDelta Rorikstead, Skyrim Join Date: 2017-02-12 Member: 227851Members
    SOLUTION FOUND!

    Run Windows Update. Seriously. DirectX 9 was installed and making weird things happen, ran Windows Update and installed DirectX 11 and it works like a charm now.
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