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[TSF]::MEMO:14246::priority:low [RESPONSE REQUIRED] - Natural Selection 2

!!–ATTENTION TSF SERVICEMEN AND WOMEN–!! [START][MEMO:14246::priority:low] Due to an unexpected error in manufacturing our latest deployment of [TSF::COMBAT:ARMOR::batch:9934] we are unable to import the standard issue TSF template. One of...

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rantology

Bump for robawt

And on a more serious note, These are the new skin ideas if anyone is confused. We got so much mixed feedback that there was no clear favorite so we're expanding on that with a poll to help us decide which ones people like the most! I'll repost a bit of a comment I made on the other thread further explaining the idea behind them:

The first 5 were supposed to look pretty crazy. All of the previous marine skins have been extremely "safe", almost to the point of being too homogeneous with each other and hard to differentiate. We also have the unique opportunity of not having to care if a skin stands out too much, because in this game you have AlienVision that nullifies any would-be advantages or disadvantages for marine skins

So, in the first five I wanted to explore the crazier side of the spectrum for skins with a lot more color and art/decals integrated in them. And of course not everyone is a fan of this, so I also made the next five, which reigned it in a bit and brought it back down closer to cannon. But I wanted all of them to be distinctly different than anything we have now, I very much wanted to avoid another dull grey/green combo skin (especially since we didn't have the option to make a new model for them, so the difference is purely the coloring).

Anyway, I'm done making mockups for now but I could always use feedback I don't know which of these will be chosen for the next skin yet, but whatever it is will have marine, weapon and exosuit in the set.

soccerguy243

7,9,10

Gooch123

1,2,5

Archie

Eh, do you need to choose that as the base model? some nice choiced, first one really has no baring on the game though, it's more out of place then anything. Some nice choices though.

I was wondering if you could use something like male_eliteassault instead? shouldn't be too much to offer it on more then one base model

SamusDroid

The elite assault model shouldn't be used again, people paid $75 for that skin. I already mentioned I didn't like the deluxe model either, but they decided to use that model. I suggested using the regular assault skin.

Gooch123

SamusDroid wrote: »

The elite assault model shouldn't be used again, people paid $75 for that skin. I already mentioned I didn't like that model either, but they decided to use that model. I suggested using the regular assault skin.

They're using the deluxe edition model aren't they?

SamusDroid

Gooch123 wrote: »

SamusDroid wrote: »

The elite assault model shouldn't be used again, people paid $75 for that skin. I already mentioned I didn't like that model either, but they decided to use that model. I suggested using the regular assault skin.

They're using the deluxe edition model aren't they?

Yes they are, someone suggested using the elite assault skin

Cr4zyb4st4rd

I posted in the NS2 news thread about them, but here it is in the dedicated thread.

Cr4zyb4st4rd wrote: »

rantology I really like those new additions. I think the Tundra Storm one is a better approach to having more variety in a skin, having two tone armour allows you to put patterns on it without having extravagant pieces of art that distract from the model.

Certainly prefer having some lighter skin options; white dragon, aurora and tundra storm. They're different to everything marines currently have on offer which are all fairly dark skins. Hope one of those comes along first

IronHorse

I get irrational emotions flowing through me when I see the black armored skins at the top of the poll..

DC_Darkling

Hmm.. I wonder how many ingame will note the vote.
Still nice. ^^

Nordic

4,7,10
My favorite is 7.

ceribik

IronHorse wrote: »

I get irrational emotions flowing through me when I see the black armored skins at the top of the poll..

Exactly what I was thinking. I hope UWE isn't going back on their word.

Saffron_baker

yeah the enforcer is a bit overkill of the black marine skin i recommend not to use it

_INTER_

You know what, you could create a page with an unrealisticly huge sales goal. Add some perks with badges. Talk about continued development and food and power and keeping things running. You don't need to believe in it yourself, you can even sell information of your next project you work on already as another perk. Then blow the the income in a tournament that is useless for 99% of the players. A few months later when everyone's milked you can pull the plug and shift work to some other community members. Oh wait didn't that already happen?

Frozen

Wooo Tundra matches my nameeeee. Fuck Tupacccc

IronHorse

@_INTER_ I know you are aware as you posted in this same thread, but just to reiterate : None of the reinforced money was spent on tournaments or SN etc. as the cost of Reinforced was what the goal was set to recover in donations, after sooo many community members asked for a way to donate.

=Mr.P=

they look cool and all, but does that really fit TSF and ns2 at all??

Archie

How long do these skins take to make Rantology? just curious as to how your workflow is laid out, what is the process you're doing to create these skins? because from what i remember correctly you helped work on the kodiak update which did bring in some interesting artwork and i don't believe that added to the cost of the release of kodiak or made even a small dent/impact on it which weeds out your part in it. But the textures/artwork looked great, which brings up something someone else has asked me to ask you, did you layer by layer and then do a level shift on the colors then add in military pattern? and also with the logo textures did you have a reference for them or did you do it from scratch?

lnd

Sad that I can only choose 3. They all look super good! Especially love pegasus, it's got a Roman vibe to it!

_INTER_

@IronHorse I don't know. Wasn't very confincing that they really tried. I mean apart from the mappers. The rest was probably more and more focusing on shiny new SN.
Maybe I'm still unconsiously pissed that the patches before Reinforced there was the most fun in NS2. I can't shake the feeling that the changes introduced then killed a major part of NS2. In addition ever since Reinforced / Eclipse I'm down to playing at around 12 fps at times.

Obraxis

ceribik wrote: »

IronHorse wrote: »

I get irrational emotions flowing through me when I see the black armored skins at the top of the poll..

Exactly what I was thinking. I hope UWE isn't going back on their word.

The Special Ops Marine will forever stay special and unique and wont be offered again. It must be iterated that it is not just a skin. That is a unique model and skin.

However, if people want a skin on a marine model that happens to have black on it in that vote, the people can decide.

IeptBarakat

It's hard not throwing a temper tantrum when it comes to bringing up selling black armor again, I really just wanted to be able to have the black armor status while using the other armors. Since I supported the $40 special edition pre-order when ns2 was just an idea and bought the $75 shadow tier as well. Being able to show the $115 armor combination of black elite assault would've been a wonderful treat.

On top of that, "Special all black marine armor whenever you play online" being limited to one skin after the fact was an annoying bait and switch on the matter.


It's unfortunate that it's pretty much set in stone that we're getting sold texture swaps instead of being able to customize armor configurations and buy color/camo like Warframe does instead.

ceribik

Obraxis wrote: »

ceribik wrote: »

IronHorse wrote: »

I get irrational emotions flowing through me when I see the black armored skins at the top of the poll..

Exactly what I was thinking. I hope UWE isn't going back on their word.

The Special Ops Marine will forever stay special and unique and wont be offered again. It must be iterated that it is not just a skin. That is a unique model and skin.

However, if people want a skin on a marine model that happens to have black on it in that vote, the people can decide.

It's not skins having black that concerns me. It's the ones that are mostly black. For example, although skin #4 has a lot of black in it, it's also got a lot of colour in it so I don't mind. On the other hand, skin #8 is basically black armour with red highlights which is less acceptable.

WasabiOne

IeptBarakat wrote: »

It's unfortunate that it's pretty much set in stone that we're getting sold texture swaps instead of being able to customize armor configurations and buy color/camo like Warframe does instead.

Who says? at the moment the game/menu etc dont support that type of system, but that doesnt mean we arent looking at changing that. It just takes time

Saltlick

I'm getting some Tribes 2 vibes from a lot of these skins. Cool stuff.

SamusDroid

IeptBarakat wrote: »

It's hard not throwing a temper tantrum when it comes to bringing up selling black armor again, I really just wanted to be able to have the black armor status while using the other armors. Since I supported the $40 special edition pre-order when ns2 was just an idea and bought the $75 shadow tier as well. Being able to show the $115 armor combination of black elite assault would've been a wonderful treat.

On top of that, "Special all black marine armor whenever you play online" being limited to one skin after the fact was an annoying bait and switch on the matter.


It's unfortunate that it's pretty much set in stone that we're getting sold texture swaps instead of being able to customize armor configurations and buy color/camo like Warframe does instead.

There's a good reason I didn't include changing visor, eye, chest colors, and it's due to how the models are done, and I've been aware and wanting to do that for a long time. It still requires the new skin system and texture changes because the emmisive properties are blended into the diffuse textures. I don't know if the PDT have people who know enough about 3DS max to do such thing. It would be a significant amount of work, more than creating a few new skins.

Kasharic

To be honest... I like nearly all of them... deciding between the first 5 is very difficult for me... and there are 2 of the latter 5 that I like a lot too... so picking 3 our of the 7 I want to see in game is well... difficult :P

Frozen

Tell black armor owner's to stfu, give them a replacement minor cosmetic addition exclusive, then sell it for $50.

(I own black armor)

rantology

For the sake of avoiding controversy and because there is so much room to explore, we probably won't do a black themed skin for this one. It's not off the table, but at least we can push the argument to a future date. =P

Yojimbo

rantology wrote: »

For the sake of avoiding controversy and because there is so much room to explore, we probably won't do a black themed skin for this one. It's not off the table, but at least we can push the argument to a future date. =P

Will each of these marine skins include a short backstory with them? e.g. Imperial Scorpions were formed during the retaking of Veil, however the Kharaa menace pushed them back with a newly evolved trait, some type of poison Skulks have been able to use similar to that of a Pandinus imperator.

They take their name in honor of their fallen comrades who succumb to this agonizing death!