Where is the moon (or i she a planet)

Chris1217Chris1217 Meyrin (Geneva) Join Date: 2015-10-14 Member: 208476Members
Wher is the moon from the loading screen? even if she's not visible from the place we ar she should provoke tide.

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  • ObraxisObraxis Subnautica Animator & Generalist, NS2 Person Join Date: 2004-07-24 Member: 30071Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Silver, WC 2013 - Supporter, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
  • ArbinatorArbinator antarctica Join Date: 2015-09-09 Member: 207851Members
    Obraxis wrote: »
    Moon is coming ;)

    Oh man. It's gonna be Terraria all over again
  • JacaraJacara Washington Join Date: 2015-06-11 Member: 205391Members
    Obraxis wrote: »
    Moon is coming ;)

    Are we getting tides or at least waves from storms.
  • R1600TurboR1600Turbo AZ, USA Join Date: 2015-05-03 Member: 204090Members
    A little birdie told me this next update should include a new skydome, so it shouldn't be long. Add to that the new lighting and new water, and w're in for a treat.
  • RevivedShadowRevivedShadow Australia Join Date: 2015-07-28 Member: 206468Members
    edited October 2015
    Remember this is an alien planet. It could have no moons or several.

    EDIT: Oh yeah. Tides. At least 1 moon then
  • zetachronzetachron Germany Join Date: 2014-11-14 Member: 199655Members
    Place two moons and from time to time these two moons will have a special conjunction (maybe including the sun). When this happens, a dramatical effect will take place.

    Maybe the magnetic field of Subnautica will flip and the fauna go mad or certain predators will relocate. Maybe some plants will come out only when the moon conjunction is there or some predators from the deep will start rising. Maybe we get a simple surface storm or more rapid underwater currents. Whatever you can imagine.
  • Chris1217Chris1217 Meyrin (Geneva) Join Date: 2015-10-14 Member: 208476Members
    Remember this is an alien planet. It could have no moons or several.

    EDIT: Oh yeah. Tides. At least 1 moon then

    Or this planet could be orbiting arounde another one (and so be the moon)
  • EpicIan60142EpicIan60142 Illinois Join Date: 2015-08-18 Member: 207263Members
    Chris1217 wrote: »
    Remember this is an alien planet. It could have no moons or several.

    EDIT: Oh yeah. Tides. At least 1 moon then

    Or this planet could be orbiting arounde another one (and so be the moon)

    OOOOOH that's a cool idea :D
  • Racer1Racer1 Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9615Members
    Orbiting around each other is relative. Technically, you could say the earth and the moon orbit each other, since they affect each other. The closer in mass two objects are, the more they appear to orbit each other.
  • Chris1217Chris1217 Meyrin (Geneva) Join Date: 2015-10-14 Member: 208476Members
    edited October 2015
    Racer1 wrote: »
    Orbiting around each other is relative. Technically, you could say the earth and the moon orbit each other, since they affect each other. The closer in mass two objects are, the more they appear to orbit each other.

    Sorry but no. The mass of the moon is not even closer to the mass of Earth. is the moon who orbiting around the Earth and both orbiting around the sun. they effectively have effect with each other due to their respectif mass (tide) but ther is no way that the mass of the moon have a effect on Earth orbit around the sun. Actually moon have a spiral orbit around Earth moving away by 0.5cm per year.
    Earth mass = 5,9736×10 exponent 24 kg = 6000 billion of million of tonnes
    Moon mass = 7,36 × 10 exponent 22 kg = 73 billion of million of tonnes
    Is like to compare a pea with a bowling ball. (Ok maybe not a pea but you know what I meant)
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Twim planetary
    Chris1217 wrote: »
    Racer1 wrote: »
    Orbiting around each other is relative. Technically, you could say the earth and the moon orbit each other, since they affect each other. The closer in mass two objects are, the more they appear to orbit each other.

    Sorry but no. The mass of the moon is not even closer to the mass of Earth. is the moon who orbiting around the Earth and both orbiting around the sun. they effectively have effect with each other due to their respectif mass (tide) but ther is no way that the mass of the moon have a effect on Earth orbit around the sun. Actually moon have a spiral orbit around Earth moving away by 0.5cm per year.
    Earth mass = 5,9736×10 exponent 24 kg = 6000 billion of million of tonnes
    Moon mass = 7,36 × 10 exponent 22 kg = 73 billion of million of tonnes
    Is like to compare a pea with a bowling ball. (Ok maybe not a pea but you know what I meant)

    Isn't the moon our stabilizer so we won't wobble as much as ... Mars for instance, thank newton for our stable equator/icy poles
  • Chris1217Chris1217 Meyrin (Geneva) Join Date: 2015-10-14 Member: 208476Members
    Kouji_San wrote: »
    Twim planetary
    Chris1217 wrote: »
    Racer1 wrote: »
    Orbiting around each other is relative. Technically, you could say the earth and the moon orbit each other, since they affect each other. The closer in mass two objects are, the more they appear to orbit each other.

    Sorry but no. The mass of the moon is not even closer to the mass of Earth. is the moon who orbiting around the Earth and both orbiting around the sun. they effectively have effect with each other due to their respectif mass (tide) but ther is no way that the mass of the moon have a effect on Earth orbit around the sun. Actually moon have a spiral orbit around Earth moving away by 0.5cm per year.
    Earth mass = 5,9736×10 exponent 24 kg = 6000 billion of million of tonnes
    Moon mass = 7,36 × 10 exponent 22 kg = 73 billion of million of tonnes
    Is like to compare a pea with a bowling ball. (Ok maybe not a pea but you know what I meant)

    Isn't the moon our stabilizer so we won't wobble as much as ... Mars for instance, thank newton for our stable equator/icy poles

    I was not sure so i check and..... no.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited October 2015
    Chris1217 wrote: »
    Kouji_San wrote: »
    Twim planetary
    Chris1217 wrote: »
    Racer1 wrote: »
    Orbiting around each other is relative. Technically, you could say the earth and the moon orbit each other, since they affect each other. The closer in mass two objects are, the more they appear to orbit each other.

    Sorry but no. The mass of the moon is not even closer to the mass of Earth. is the moon who orbiting around the Earth and both orbiting around the sun. they effectively have effect with each other due to their respectif mass (tide) but ther is no way that the mass of the moon have a effect on Earth orbit around the sun. Actually moon have a spiral orbit around Earth moving away by 0.5cm per year.
    Earth mass = 5,9736×10 exponent 24 kg = 6000 billion of million of tonnes
    Moon mass = 7,36 × 10 exponent 22 kg = 73 billion of million of tonnes
    Is like to compare a pea with a bowling ball. (Ok maybe not a pea but you know what I meant)

    Isn't the moon our stabilizer so we won't wobble as much as ... Mars for instance, thank newton for our stable equator/icy poles

    I was not sure so i check and..... no.

    Alright, our moon is kinda a supermoon for such a small planet and just that I've read and heard about that idea, here's an article http://www.space.com/12464-earth-moon-unique-solar-system-universe.html

    specifically this part
    The moon has long been recognized as a significant stabilizer of Earth's orbital axis. Without it, astronomers have predicted that Earth's tilt could vary as much as 85 degrees. In such a scenario, the sun would swing from being directly over the equator to directly over the poles over the course of a few million years, a change which could result in dramatic climatic shifts.

    Such shifts have the potential to impact the development of life.

    Not sure what to search for to find peer reviewed articles on this subject :D


    "stop my wobble peer reviewed"
    "wobbly earth peer reviewed"

    etc...
  • Chris1217Chris1217 Meyrin (Geneva) Join Date: 2015-10-14 Member: 208476Members
    edited October 2015
    Kouji_San wrote: »
    Chris1217 wrote: »
    Kouji_San wrote: »
    Twim planetary
    Chris1217 wrote: »
    Racer1 wrote: »
    Orbiting around each other is relative. Technically, you could say the earth and the moon orbit each other, since they affect each other. The closer in mass two objects are, the more they appear to orbit each other.

    Sorry but no. The mass of the moon is not even closer to the mass of Earth. is the moon who orbiting around the Earth and both orbiting around the sun. they effectively have effect with each other due to their respectif mass (tide) but ther is no way that the mass of the moon have a effect on Earth orbit around the sun. Actually moon have a spiral orbit around Earth moving away by 0.5cm per year.
    Earth mass = 5,9736×10 exponent 24 kg = 6000 billion of million of tonnes
    Moon mass = 7,36 × 10 exponent 22 kg = 73 billion of million of tonnes
    Is like to compare a pea with a bowling ball. (Ok maybe not a pea but you know what I meant)

    Isn't the moon our stabilizer so we won't wobble as much as ... Mars for instance, thank newton for our stable equator/icy poles

    I was not sure so i check and..... no.

    Alright, our moon is kinda a supermoon for such a small planet and just that I've read and heard about that idea, here's an article http://www.space.com/12464-earth-moon-unique-solar-system-universe.html

    specifically this part
    The moon has long been recognized as a significant stabilizer of Earth's orbital axis. Without it, astronomers have predicted that Earth's tilt could vary as much as 85 degrees. In such a scenario, the sun would swing from being directly over the equator to directly over the poles over the course of a few million years, a change which could result in dramatic climatic shifts.

    Such shifts have the potential to impact the development of life.

    Not sure what to search for to find peer reviewed articles on this subject :D


    "stop my wobble peer reviewed"
    "wobbly earth peer reviewed"

    etc...

    Is funny, i read multiple articles and some say one thing and other say the opposed. but ok a was wrong.
    edit : ok a was wrong but according to to Wikipedia : However, more recent numerical simulations suggest that even in the absence of the Moon, Earth's obliquity could be considerably more stable; varying only by about 20-25°.
    And it's only affect the axis of the Earth not is orbit
  • ZundyZundy UK Join Date: 2015-03-26 Member: 202589Members
    Why not make it a moon where its orbit has been destabilised by the same occurrence that effected the Aurora and is on a collision course with the current planet. Could make it an objective to actually deal with it as it gets progressively larger in the sky.
  • MyrmMyrm Sweden Join Date: 2015-08-16 Member: 207210Members
    Chris1217 wrote: »

    I was not sure so i check and..... no.

    According to many astronomers, including Prof Alex Filippenko of University of California, Berkley, you are wrong. The moon DOES prevent the earth from a wobble.
  • Chris1217Chris1217 Meyrin (Geneva) Join Date: 2015-10-14 Member: 208476Members
    Myrm wrote: »
    Chris1217 wrote: »

    I was not sure so i check and..... no.

    According to many astronomers, including Prof Alex Filippenko of University of California, Berkley, you are wrong. The moon DOES prevent the earth from a wobble.

    on is axis not is orbit
  • InsaneInsane Anomaly Join Date: 2002-05-13 Member: 605Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    edited October 2015
    The Earth and Moon are technically orbiting each other. However their barycentre (common centre of gravity between two orbiting objects) is inside the Earth, so to all intents and purposes the Moon can be said to be orbiting the Earth. This actually causes a very small amount of orbital wobble, although as Chris1217 says the moon probably prevents the Earth from wobbling on its axis a lot more than it currently does.

    Fun fact! Jupiter is massive and far out enough that its barycentre is actually outside the Sun. However common sense would still dictate that Jupiter can be said to be orbiting the Sun since it's still gravitationally held in a stable configuration around the more massive object.

    Anyway, the new sky looks totally rad. We're still tweaking it but I think you guys are going to really like it!
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Yeah I was not clear, I meant axis wobble not orbital wobble... Tends to happen if we get into "technical" English.


    Anyways, the idea of the planet is indeed a moon of a gas giant. Interesting to say the least, but what happens if the planet goes behind that gas giant, does it freeze up mostly during that time and it seems to have a crust, so it might itself also have liquid magma underneath that if the planet is big enough, add to that the tidal stress from that proposed gas giant and perhaps other moons... We have what... Europa 2 :D ?
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