Monitor Discussion
coolitic
Right behind you Join Date: 2013-04-02 Member: 184609Members
Right behind you Join Date: 2013-04-02 Member: 184609Members
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Response time: On 120hz/144hz, 7 ms is for some old ones that use interpolation, 5 ms for the cheaper ones, 3 ms for decent ones, and 1 ms for the good ones. On 60hz, 7 ms is decent for non-gaming monitors, 5 is decent for gaming monitors, and 1-3 is for good ones. I am referring to gtg.
Frame latency: Time between consecutive frames, can make even 120hz look choppy.
Response time: On 120hz/144hz, 7 ms is for some old ones that use interpolation, 5 ms for the cheaper ones, 3 ms for decent ones, and 1 ms for the good ones. On 60hz, 7 ms is decent for non-gaming monitors, 5 is decent for gaming monitors, and 1-3 is for good ones. I am referring to gtg.
Frame latency: Time between consecutive frames, can make even 120hz look choppy.
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Generally 8ms is a valid response time, high end monitors can have a response time as low as 5ms.
However, spouting a time is one thing, but what does it mean? If you investigate further, you find that most of the 5-8ms response time monitors are quoting the response time for Black>Black. Most of the sub 5ms monitors quote the response time for Grey>Grey, so you cannot compare them.
Monitors are a very wide ranging subject. You are also lumping all monitors in one, not taking into account all the different panel types available. At the end of the day, you have gained a little bit of knowledge about something, made some bold statements and unfortunately, made them to people who understand a lot more about monitors than you do.
There are more kinds of monitors, but these are the main ones and I would prefer not to make a list.
Most monitors I have seen refer to gtg response time anyways, since it is more marketable.
To show that human response time is much longer than the monitors, take this test: http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime/
Human response time is better when hearing things rather than seeing things, as proven by comparing that first test to this one: http://cognitivefun.net/test/16
And I will state it once more that I am not saying any of you actually think monitor affects player response time.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=es6xPFjKa_M#t=66
I made the mistake of getting an X2411Z which unfortunately has the bugged V1 firmware. Upgrading to V2 so I can use the Strobe Utility will take some effort but should be worth it.
I'm also disappointed in the Black Equalizer feature. My friend told me he never needed any gamma hacks anymore with it enabled and could see perfectly in dark and red rooms, but it doesn't do much for me, if anything. Am I missing something or am I just too used to cranking up gamma to the max?
I know literally nothing about the subject, but gamma values are absolute...?
This doesn't sound like it would make sense.
Thats just how it is on most monitors. You can look it up if you like.
A measured gamma value of 2.2 is considered the "ideal for most situations" because it's the most neutral value. In audio terms, imagine a flatlined EQ spectrum with no altering of the source.
That is basically the exact opposite of what I asked for and want, so again, you're just spouting random ill-informed crap that is completely out of context. Not like anyone expects anything else at this point.
How is that in any way not perfectly clear? If you have no idea what the Black Equalizer feature is, why even bother responding with something random about gamma that is completely dumb and out-of-place in the context of me wanting to see better in dark rooms?
I suggest you treat others with a little more respect, as I am only trying to help you. Black equalizer basically makes the black levels lighter, which does not help you see in dark rooms.
If you want to see better in dark rooms lower the brightness of the backlight, not to be confused with the other brightness option, which just affects the black level.
Black equalizer works great for me, what picture mode are you in with your BenQ? I use a XL2420TE.
Do yourself a favor and just don't respond to coolitic lol.
Unless I totally misunderstood this and you specifically meant dark rooms inside the game, then black equalizer is almost a cheat code.
And BE doesn't seem to do anything for me. At least there's no noticable dynamic effect, which I thought was the whole point. I'm using an XL2411Z in FPS1 mode. Maybe I should read the manual...
If you raise black equalizer, contrast and brightness all to max in the monitor menu settings you shouldn't have any black spots in rooms. They should all be lit up pretty well. Use the Standard Mode for more options. FPS1 is more of a limited mode that is tailored to CS players from what I recall.
It removes the spots that are ridiculously black and makes them more visible from what I can tell from using it on my monitor. If you want to raise the brightness of the entire room.. download Gamma Control and use a hotkey to raise the gamma or lower it on demand.
I'm starting to think this is being done for competitive reasons, as when you put the settings to those extremes it doesn't look too pretty.
That's what black equaliser is for...
In FPS1 mode, it can be used just for pubs to get an edge or if you have poor eye sight afaik.