Xbox or PS4 Controller??

DetonNationDetonNation Members Join Date: 2013-09-10 Member: 188103Posts: 3
Maybe Im the only one.. ;) Im really enjoying NS2, I think a controller would be a huge boost in game playability. To me its a royal pita to be slamming keyboard keys and moving quick. A game like Diablo 3 works well with the mouse for example... but you really need quick reflexes and the keyboard really slows you down. It doesnt seem like the amount of keys are too many for a controller conversion. Maybe some stay on the keyboard idk. Any opinions, thoughts?
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  • AurOn2AurOn2 COOKIES! FREEDOM, AND BISCUITS! AustraliaMembers, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Forum staff Join Date: 2012-01-13 Member: 140224Posts: 2,130 mod
    Too many more keys than there is on either controller for one.
    And tracking skulks on a controller? Gunna be too hard.
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  • B3rTB3rT Members, Reinforced - Shadow Join Date: 2013-02-14 Member: 183058Posts: 128
    You will never aim as fast with a controller as with a mouse. But there are tools to Map keys to XBOX controllers so you can try it for yourself.

    But I would recommend one of these:
    Logitech_Driving_Force_GT_fullres.jpg
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  • DetonNationDetonNation Members Join Date: 2013-09-10 Member: 188103Posts: 3
    Lol... So I could set it up with a plugin or app. I have a black adder mouse which is pretty good you can map 3 of the buttons. I know razer has the diablo or mmo mouses mieces. I can't imagine remembering what button does what. Couldn't you just set the controller to turn really fast to follow skulks. Idk. It seems to have it as a supported option might be a good way to go
  • B3rTB3rT Members, Reinforced - Shadow Join Date: 2013-02-14 Member: 183058Posts: 128
    It's not about the speed, it's more about the precision. There is a reason why they don't mix Console Multiplayer with PC Multiplayer. (And why most Console FPS have an aim assist)
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  • _Necro__Necro_ Members, Reinforced - Shadow Join Date: 2011-02-15 Member: 81895Posts: 1,904 Fully active user
    Controller vs Mouse in FPS... Oh boy, you just entered a world of pain. :D
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  • DarkLaunch357DarkLaunch357 Campinas, BrazilMembers Join Date: 2013-09-01 Member: 187599Posts: 77 Fully active user
    maD_maX_ wrote: »
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    Lol, I used this to use my keyboard and mouse with an Xbox back when halo first came out.... Everyone used to laugh at me when I showed up to the LAN party with a keyboard/mouse (until I started destroying them all)

    @_Neckro_ Lol, but we all know keyboard>controller... ;)

    so much win, that'd sure make an Xbox more bearable... naw, i'll keep my PC :D
  • joshhhjoshhh Milwaukee, WIMembers, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester Join Date: 2011-06-21 Member: 105717Posts: 1,437 Advanced user
    I have a mouse/keyboard setup I used to use for PS3 cod4 back in the day. The only problem was there was mouse accel and you couldn't disable it. lol Still better than aiming with a thumbstick.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The NetherlandsMembers, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Posts: 15,782 Advanced user
    NS2 has no aim assist and mostly consists of fast movement with twitch or careful tracking aiming. Now without aim assist you're just going to hurt yourself and the ones around you, due to throwing the controller at some random person in your vicinity after a while :P

    With that out of the way, there are indeed ways to do this as posted in this thread...

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  • maD_maX_maD_maX_ Members Join Date: 2013-04-07 Member: 184678Posts: 470 Advanced user
    edited September 2013
    Just imagine using a programmable mouse and keyboard with Xbox (woot macro). "Oh that combo, I just hit mouse 9"
  • A_PajanderA_Pajander Members, Reinforced - Shadow Join Date: 2002-12-31 Member: 11695Posts: 172 Fully active user
    but you really need quick reflexes and the keyboard really slows you down.

    What the... People these days. You should never play anything that has a cursor or a crosshair with a controller, just as you should never play driving games or something like Arkham Asylum on a keyboard. That's just... ugh.
  • JektJekt Members, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow Join Date: 2012-02-05 Member: 143714Posts: 1,543 Advanced user
    edited September 2013
    I like playing driving and fighting games on a keyboard. Only time I use a controller is for PS2 games I emulate and the very occasional 360 title I never finish.
  • HerZeLeiDHerZeLeiD Members Join Date: 2013-03-25 Member: 184362Posts: 15
    Can you imagine playing as a Lerk with a gamepad? Damn. The sensitivity would have to be insanely high, but then you will lose all precision as well.

    Gorge & Onos would be do-able. :P
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The NetherlandsMembers, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Posts: 15,782 Advanced user
    Playing with a Wacom is fun as well, you can make spinning moves really fast using the ring. Not very useful, but funny in any case!

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  • lwflwf Members, Constellation Join Date: 2006-11-03 Member: 58311Posts: 486 Fully active user
    edited September 2013
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  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Posts: 4,983 mod
    B3rT wrote: »
    You will never aim as fast with a controller as with a mouse. But there are tools to Map keys to XBOX controllers so you can try it for yourself.

    But I would recommend one of these:
    Logitech_Driving_Force_GT_fullres.jpg
    "Hold on while I shift my skulk from 1st into 5th gear"
    Benson
  • joshhhjoshhh Milwaukee, WIMembers, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester Join Date: 2011-06-21 Member: 105717Posts: 1,437 Advanced user
    Am I the only one who actually wants to plug in my racing wheel and see what happens?

    Benson
  • Maxx11_v2.0Maxx11_v2.0 Members Join Date: 2012-11-18 Member: 172221Posts: 274
    edited September 2013
    You can use a pad to play NS2, but it would be like competing in Tour de France on a unicycle. Unless you're some kind of joypad prodigy you'll get your ass handed to you, so I wouldn't recommend it.
  • NordicNordic Long term camping in KodiakMembers, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow Join Date: 2012-05-13 Member: 151995Posts: 4,771 Advanced user
    ScardyBob wrote: »
    B3rT wrote: »
    You will never aim as fast with a controller as with a mouse. But there are tools to Map keys to XBOX controllers so you can try it for yourself.

    But I would recommend one of these:
    Logitech_Driving_Force_GT_fullres.jpg
    "Hold on while I shift my skulk from 1st into 5th gear"

    Not a 5th gear skulk!!! Anything but that!
    From my perspective UWE has been trying to both with what little resources they have given to the game. They don't have an AAA budget, let alone an indie game budget. They have the budget of a game that has been out 6 years. I want to say, don't half ass two things, whole ass one thing. I just don't think they have the resources to do it. Unlike many of the people on the forums, I guess I am just happy they are at least trying even though I may not like what they end up doing.
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  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Members Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Posts: 1,866 Advanced user
    joshhh wrote: »
    Am I the only one who actually wants to plug in my racing wheel and see what happens?

    Like this?

    youtube.com/watch?v=zQBAj8zj6cM
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  • joshhhjoshhh Milwaukee, WIMembers, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester Join Date: 2011-06-21 Member: 105717Posts: 1,437 Advanced user
    LOL that's amazing.
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Members Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Posts: 1,866 Advanced user
    joshhh wrote: »
    LOL that's amazing.

    Indeed!
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  • Side1Bu2Rnz9Side1Bu2Rnz9 Members, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow Join Date: 2012-10-16 Member: 162510Posts: 289 Advanced user
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The NetherlandsMembers, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Posts: 15,782 Advanced user
    Hahaha good stuff guys, now we need one with the NES Rolling Rock or the NES Power Glove :D

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  • DetonNationDetonNation Members Join Date: 2013-09-10 Member: 188103Posts: 3
    Ok Mouse it is!!! :) Ill pick it up... Love the game anyways!
    A_Pajander
  • ShnagenburgShnagenburg Members Join Date: 2005-07-04 Member: 55235Posts: 15 Fully active user
    I actually did this once; alien was playable, marine was much harder. Keep in mind that most console games (Halo, CoD, etc) have really subtle aim assist that ns2 doesn't have. I set up joy2key to have an "iron sight" button that lowered the sensitivity while held. That way by default its high so you can spin around and shoot fades, but it could be lowered it for shooting skulks down hallways. It was fun to sit on the couch and play on big screen, but don't expect to get the same KDs you're used to!

    I used
    joy2key:
    http://www.electracode.com/4/joy2key/JoyToKey English Version.htm

    and a wireless xbox 360 controller with a pc adaptor:
    http://www.amazon.com/HDE-Wireless-Receiver-compatible-Xbox-controller/dp/B0096PLB9O/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1378903282&sr=8-14&keywords=wireless+360+adapter

  • HeatSurgeHeatSurge Some Guy Members, Reinforced - Supporter Join Date: 2012-09-15 Member: 159438Posts: 1,188 Advanced user
    edited September 2013
    but you really need quick reflexes and the keyboard really slows you down.

    It was funny for a little bit, but now it's time to leave this place.
    You can use a pad to play NS2, but it would be like competing in Tour de France on a unicycle. Unless you're some kind of joypad prodigy you'll get your ass handed to you, so I wouldn't recommend it.

    Racing a formula 1 car around a circuit riding a lead cube sounds a bit more appropriate. The unicycle can actually compete.
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  • WarmongerWarmonger Members, Constellation Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13126Posts: 181 Advanced user
    maD_maX_ wrote: »
    Just imagine using a programmable mouse and keyboard with Xbox (woot macro). "Oh that combo, I just hit mouse 9"

    There already is such a device - it's called XIM3 (or actually the new XIM Edge). The XIM Edge works with PS3 or XBox, but the problem with this device (and other clones such as the one MadMax posted) are that you can never get around the look mechanic of console games. They have a limit on their turn speed so it will never be like playing a game natively on a PC with a mouse and keyboard. With that said, in most games it will absolutely let you destroy console players who are using a controller.
  • sotanahtsotanaht Members Join Date: 2013-01-12 Member: 179215Posts: 1,020 Fully active user
    snaga wrote: »
    but you really need quick reflexes and the keyboard really slows you down.

    What the... People these days. You should never play anything that has a cursor or a crosshair with a controller, just as you should never play driving games or something like Arkham Asylum on a keyboard. That's just... ugh.

    Driving is actually the ONLY type of game where a controller is superior to a keyboard, but a wheel is better than both. Action games like Arkham or what have you are still played perfectly fine on a keyboard and mouse if their controls are properly bound and set up. Really though it's the keyboard that drags down the combo, it simply isn't as well designed as it could be for gaming.
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