Agree / Disagree icons need to be more distinct
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Join Date: 2008-11-25 Member: 65575Members
Join Date: 2008-11-25 Member: 65575Members
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You need to relax, buddy, they are just meaningless virtual pixels.
Feel free to flag my post.
about the icons in general: stupid. you are, for one, allowing the entire community to basically edit the entire forum. Also, you are putting extra powers to the mods.. they don't need it.. it can only be used to exploit at this point bc they can already edit and close your threads/posts. Also (as seen above), some people get really offended and take it personal from other community members whenever they give them a negative flag. It's basically talking shit without saying a word...
Yep, I would rather just see it removed.
No need to flag your post, there's nothing wrong with it!
There's a distinct difference between reddit's voting system and these forums. On these forums, the act of voting neither hides nor elevates a persons comment. Where as on reddit, the majority opinion is ALWAYS reinforced because the majority opinion is up voted and the minority opinion is downvoted or upvoted less. Thus, you have many majority opinions being systematically presented where minority opinions are hidden.
On the NS2 forums, the votes are purely cosmetic. When strofix gets 15 disagrees and 15 trolls on a single post, that post isn't removed or hidden. It sits right there in all of its shitty glory. Similarly, highly rated posts are not pushed to the front of the thread. They remain in their own place and are only graced with a blue band to distinguish them from the standard posts.
edit: 5 flags minimizes posts. Disagrees don't appear to do anything. Perhaps we shouldn't be allowed to use the troll flag.
edit* the flagging for good posts, it doesn't bring their post to the front, u're right. instead, it highlights their post.
I don't think the agree/disagree system isn't really a moderation tool. I've seen 3-4 buried posts since it was introduced. Every buried post I've seen, has been totally justified, as a post which didn't contribute anything to the discussion.
I have yet to see some one get flagged as troll and have their post buried for expressing an unpopular opinion. I've seen them get hit with a ton of 'disagree' but that won't bury the post.
I really like the system, it allows people to interact with the forum, with our spamming it up with "+1" or "QFT" type posts.
Frequently I don't post because some one else already said exactly what I thought, the 'agree' button lets me express my support with out spamming the forums.
ALSO: to be on topic, love or hate the system, it has lost a lot of its convenience because the agree and disagree icons are different by maybe 4 pixels. It be nice if the symbol was more readable at a glance.
It does encourage a lot of people to just click the disagree button and never post instead of posting to agree and WHY they agree or disagree. It also does eventually hide the post.
Not true, I have seen commons hidden because they received too many flags. I do not recall the thread.
There's no point in agreeing or disagreeing without further discussion.
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Seriously though, I definitely agree with the OP about the icon differentiation. I am glad that you can hover over the icons, but making so I don't have to do this would be even better.
you must not be big on democracy... or consensus.
Or getting anything done.
Or anything... except arguing.
Go make a funny quip with 0 malice on a dev post and get 20 agrees/awesomes (they didn't say WHICH FEBRUARY LOLO), go bring up a legitimate complaint about a horrible mechanic in the game that ruins pubs and you're lucky if the whole thread full of valid points has the same amount of agrees/awesome, doesn't matter if it filters content like reddit does it will quickly filter submissions whether you want it to or not.
Do agree with the OP on buttons being indistinguishable. I would prefer a "last played" button as well so it could easily be pointed out certain members with 600+ posts haven't played this game in well over a month and can fuck off and stop shit posting in game mechanic threads. Maybe integrate with Facebook too like the upcoming PS4.
edit: about into amount.
Can't tell if serious...
Damn! That's harsh.
If you fully agree with a post (word-for-word), why not agree? It saves time and saves a meaningless post.
If you agree with one post fully and disagree with the opposite argument, why is there need for further explanation? Your opinion is fairly clear.
It's convenient.
However, in some cases a description is required, which often is not provided.
Yeah, you're right. It does seem like 5 "flags" will minimize a post. I'll edit my post. I don't think this is an issue, but people should probably disagree instead of flagging as troll. Perhaps troll shouldn't count to the 5 flags because quite a few posters on these forums come off as complete trolls in their sincerity.