UWE, will you be needing a voice actress?

DJPenguinDJPenguin Useless Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18538Members
For that future female marine you intend on implementing. I know of a very talented lady in Cali whose résumé includes video games and machinima (quite a bit of it on youtube), among others, and is always looking for VA work. Any chance i can hook her up for an audition?
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  • ImbalanxdImbalanxd Join Date: 2011-06-15 Member: 104581Members
    Sign my petition to keep females off the frontlines
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    edited April 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1928962:date=Apr 23 2012, 04:11 PM:name=Imbalanxd)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Imbalanxd @ Apr 23 2012, 04:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1928962"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Sign my petition to keep females off the frontlines<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sign my counter-petition to put females <i>on</i> the front lines, OP. It looks exactly the same as his petition, and all the same people have signed it, but some of the words are pronounced differently.
  • ImbalanxdImbalanxd Join Date: 2011-06-15 Member: 104581Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1928965:date=Apr 23 2012, 11:16 PM:name=Techercizer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Techercizer @ Apr 23 2012, 11:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1928965"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Sign my counter-petition to put females <i>on</i> the front lines, OP. It looks exactly the same as his petition, and all the same people have signed it, but some of the words are pronounced differently.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    ITS A TRAP!!!

    Or at least it better be, this is the frontline after all.
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1928966:date=Apr 23 2012, 04:18 PM:name=Imbalanxd)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Imbalanxd @ Apr 23 2012, 04:18 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1928966"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->ITS A TRAP!!!

    Or at least it better be, this is the frontline after all.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I thought this was my computer screen?
  • ImbalanxdImbalanxd Join Date: 2011-06-15 Member: 104581Members
    In all seriousness though, why do people always want this addition? I see players of BF3 wanting the same. Why?

    Because of the nature of the gaming industry, when I hear about the addition of female characters, I immediately think leather, cleavage, exploitation ect. I'm quite sure UWE would never take it in that direction if it did come about, but then why do it? It certainly isn't realistic.

    I certainly hope I'm not a misogynist, but the whole idea just annoys me. It really seems like there is no reason for the addition.
  • DeadzoneDeadzone Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17911Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1928973:date=Apr 23 2012, 04:38 PM:name=Imbalanxd)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Imbalanxd @ Apr 23 2012, 04:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1928973"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->In all seriousness though, why do people always want this addition? I see players of BF3 wanting the same. Why?

    Because of the nature of the gaming industry, when I hear about the addition of female characters, I immediately think leather, cleavage, exploitation ect. I'm quite sure UWE would never take it in that direction if it did come about, but then why do it? It certainly isn't realistic.

    I certainly hope I'm not a misogynist, but the whole idea just annoys me. It really seems like there is no reason for the addition.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Maybe we just like seeing more variety or the ability to choose a gender? Maybe girls actually play games on the internets?

    Though I'll admit when I saw this thread I thought someone wanted to audition for the alien "Queen Overmind" voice :P
  • ImbalanxdImbalanxd Join Date: 2011-06-15 Member: 104581Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1928975:date=Apr 23 2012, 11:41 PM:name=Deadzone)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Deadzone @ Apr 23 2012, 11:41 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1928975"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Maybe we just like seeing more variety or the ability to choose a gender? Maybe girls actually play games on the internets?

    Though I'll admit when I saw this thread I thought someone wanted to audition for the alien "Queen Overmind" voice :P<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'm all for accommodating players, but being able to choose gender is one step away from having a Barbie makeover mod before every game.

    Additionally, their are also black, asian, indian ect ect players, yet we don't accommodate them (in most games).
  • DJPenguinDJPenguin Useless Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18538Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1928973:date=Apr 23 2012, 05:38 PM:name=Imbalanxd)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Imbalanxd @ Apr 23 2012, 05:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1928973"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->In all seriousness though, why do people always want this addition? I see players of BF3 wanting the same. Why?

    Because of the nature of the gaming industry, when I hear about the addition of female characters, I immediately think leather, cleavage, exploitation ect. I'm quite sure UWE would never take it in that direction if it did come about, but then why do it? It certainly isn't realistic.

    I certainly hope I'm not a misogynist, but the whole idea just annoys me. It really seems like there is no reason for the addition.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Probably because UWE mentioned it, have you ever looked at the banner above the forum? You can't compare this science fiction game to a more realism driven one like BF3. Yes there are a lot of scuzzball artists who come up with ridiculous clothing for female characters but if the banner is anything to go by this won't happen.

    and yeah, female gamers. my immediate family has 3 of them.
  • inveigleinveigle Join Date: 2004-01-07 Member: 25117Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Supporter
    Sign my petition to keep trans-genders on the frontlines. It looks exactly the same as the other petitions, and all the same people have signed it (twice), but all of the words are politically correct and ran by three multi-cultural focus groups and a assembly of over-achieving primates in unitards.

    It will have an addendum as well to bail out the banks in the future.
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    edited April 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1928973:date=Apr 23 2012, 04:38 PM:name=Imbalanxd)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Imbalanxd @ Apr 23 2012, 04:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1928973"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->In all seriousness though, why do people always want this addition? I see players of BF3 wanting the same. Why?

    Because of the nature of the gaming industry, when I hear about the addition of female characters, I immediately think leather, cleavage, exploitation ect. I'm quite sure UWE would never take it in that direction if it did come about, but then why do it? It certainly isn't realistic.

    I certainly hope I'm not a misogynist, but the whole idea just annoys me. It really seems like there is no reason for the addition.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Women don't have to be objectified in every video game appearance. There's nothing wrong with adding in a similarly-armored model with a different body shape to provide players with customization options, except the time it would take to do so. It's already a feature we've been told is planned for post 1.0 by UWE, so it's not like we're just pulling this thought out of the air.

    <!--quoteo(post=1928984:date=Apr 23 2012, 04:52 PM:name=inveigle)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (inveigle @ Apr 23 2012, 04:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1928984"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Sign my petition to keep trans-genders on the frontlines. It looks exactly the same as the other petitions, and all the same people have signed it (twice), but all of the words are politically correct and ran by three multi-cultural focus groups and a assembly of over-achieving primates in unitards.

    It will have an addendum as well to bail out the banks in the future.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No.
  • IeptBarakatIeptBarakat The most difficult name to speak ingame. Join Date: 2009-07-10 Member: 68107Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    <a href="http://imgur.com/7ohnb" target="_blank"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/7ohnbl.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>

    Sure it's old concept art that isn't up to date with the current marine armor style, but going by this I don't think we'd have to worry about the females being overly sexualized.

    Of course I'd hope there would be a black armor variation as well. But these would be a while after 1.0 happens.
  • ImbalanxdImbalanxd Join Date: 2011-06-15 Member: 104581Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1928987:date=Apr 23 2012, 11:54 PM:name=Techercizer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Techercizer @ Apr 23 2012, 11:54 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1928987"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Women don't have to be objectified in every video game appearance. There's nothing wrong with adding in a similarly-armored model with a different body shape to provide players with customization options, except the time it would take to do so. It's already a feature we've been told is planned for post 1.0 by UWE, so it's not like we're just pulling this thought out of the air.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I meant it in more of a conceptual way, rather than practically relating directly to NS2. Why do people want to add female models to games? It makes perfect sense in more character driven games, but in anonymous shooters I just don't get it.

    Counter-strike, battlefield, COD, NS, they don't need it. It actually breaks the realism in my opinion. Other than that, I think visual customisation in anything other than an RPG is the bane of all games.

    Also, its far easier to defend a game with a single player model that just happens to be a white guy, than a game which has two player models that just happen to be a white guy and girl.
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    edited April 2012
    As a more conceptual discussion, I think many female gamers want to represent their gender correctly instead of being forced into playing a male character (in particular people who are concerned about sexism and patriarchal overtones in media they choose to consume). Many male gamers often enjoy the chance to set themselves apart from other gamers by playing female characters, or simply find that the subtle minutia of the character (slightly slimmer arms or some detail of the sort) is more in line with what they would most like to play as.

    And heck, many male (and female) gamers just plain enjoy playing as female characters. There's nothing wrong with that; it's as much of a personal preference as preferring a male character is, for both genders.
  • extolloextollo Ping Blip Join Date: 2010-07-16 Member: 72457Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1928991:date=Apr 23 2012, 06:00 PM:name=IeptBarakat)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (IeptBarakat @ Apr 23 2012, 06:00 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1928991"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Sure it's old concept art that isn't up to date with the current marine armor style, but going by this I don't think we'd have to worry about the females being overly sexualized.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    would...






    not mind having a player model like that in the game.
  • playerplayer Join Date: 2010-09-12 Member: 73982Members
    On the NS2 todo-list, this is past the end entering uncharted territory where no useless feature has ever gone before.
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    edited April 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1928999:date=Apr 23 2012, 05:11 PM:name=jbaker8935)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jbaker8935 @ Apr 23 2012, 05:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1928999"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->would... not mind having a player model like that in the game.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, I'm 50/50 on whether I'd go for it. Ultimately it would depend on the details of the model and how they implemented it, but I could totally see myself exclusively playing a female Marine.
  • XariusXarius Join Date: 2003-12-21 Member: 24630Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    edited April 2012
    Edit: wrong thread
  • BicsumBicsum Join Date: 2012-02-27 Member: 147596Members, Reinforced - Gold
    I could imagine the female marine like her:

    <img src="http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt153/BlackRoseDying13/Rain_Ocampo2.png" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    in 90% of her movies, shes the female badass cop/pilot/zombie hunter/mechanic whatsoever.

    Make sure to add a quote from Ripley as taunt.
  • VenatosVenatos Join Date: 2012-03-31 Member: 149762Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold
    edited April 2012
    interresting, not a single reply has anything to do with the question the OP asked.......

    i mean its bad in other threads too, but i must say this one is my new favourite.

    DJPenguin, the devs do browse the forums, but i think you would be better of just asking someone directly per mail, for example hugh(ns2hd) as the new "publicrelation"guy, he will surely get you connected to the right guy. hugh@unknownworlds.com

    ps: i guess it will take some time bevore we will see female marines, but if it fits, they can hold her in evidence for that day.
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1928975:date=Apr 24 2012, 07:41 AM:name=Deadzone)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Deadzone @ Apr 24 2012, 07:41 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1928975"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I thought someone wanted to audition for the alien "Queen Overmind" voice :P<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    no need to, since the hivemind voice is already from a female.. the same voice actress who did the comchair voice, just with alot of filtering and distortion
  • OnosFactoryOnosFactory New Zealand Join Date: 2008-07-16 Member: 64637Members
    Wow, people are actually against female models in computer games? I sooo want to flame you foolios off the face of the planet, make all sorts of reference to your small pile of buttons man junk but I guess I'd better not. Still: Weenies.
  • Dictator93Dictator93 Join Date: 2008-12-21 Member: 65833Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1929036:date=Apr 23 2012, 06:30 PM:name=OnosFactory)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (OnosFactory @ Apr 23 2012, 06:30 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1929036"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Wow, people are actually against female models in computer games? I sooo want to flame you foolios off the face of the planet, make all sorts of reference to your small pile of buttons man junk but I guess I'd better not. Still: Weenies.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    QFT

    BTW, when I talked to Cor at pax (or was it max?), he mentioned the inclusion of a female model at some time in the future (i think post 1.0 was mentioned, cannot remember too well). That got me pumped.
  • fenrir1179fenrir1179 Join Date: 2011-11-05 Member: 131263Members
    aren't gurlz them things what with a vagina in 'em? don't know about you, bill bob female marines... what's next? maybe you'll see 'em drivin' around in them horseless carriages or votin'.
    signs and wonders...
    it's the dismal tide.
    it is not the one thing.
  • ImbalanxdImbalanxd Join Date: 2011-06-15 Member: 104581Members
    I'm not against female models in the game, I'm against the idea that they are in any way necessary.

    They add absolutely nothing to the game, and aren't required at all, but they require new models, new skins, new audio. For what?
  • zastelszastels Join Date: 2003-11-29 Member: 23731Members
    I'm 100% down for woman soldiers. One of my favourite movies is Starship Troopers!
  • DJPenguinDJPenguin Useless Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18538Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1929084:date=Apr 23 2012, 10:51 PM:name=zastels)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (zastels @ Apr 23 2012, 10:51 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1929084"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm 100% down for woman soldiers. One of my favourite movies is Starship Troopers!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    i eagerly await to see a marine pair of Rico and Diz in this game
  • peregrinusperegrinus Join Date: 2010-07-16 Member: 72445Members
    Me too, it'll be great to have female marines - Sherines? - adding to the overall look of the game.

    I hope they keep the model as it is in the art work, simple and neutral appearance. Too often the female characters are overly stylised fertility goddesses, angry butch lesbians, or emo barbies.

    Of course they're not necessary, but none of this is necessary; it's all a game served up for our entertainment! The more flavour UWE add the better.
  • HughHugh Cameraman San Francisco, CA Join Date: 2010-04-18 Member: 71444NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    edited April 2012
    OP, absolutely, you are welcome to email me to get in touch at hugh@unknownworlds.com.

    In most video games, half the population is forced to play as a character that does not accurately represent their gender. That is<i> not good enough</i>. This is the 21st century.

    The idea that all-male models accurately represent science fiction fighting forces is absolutely ridiculous. Right now, in the year 2012, women may fight as front-line infantry soldiers in many militarises around the world, including that of my home.

    More importantly, the idea that there are no female NS2 players is equally ridiculous. Some female players might find it offensive that they cannot choose a female character. Some might be quietly resigned. Others might not care. It is not my place, or anyones place, to make a judgement about what the female playerbase feels. Instead, we should all want to push to create a game that provides a fundamental choice about one's avatar - our online representative image of self - and does not force people to play as an avatar that they feel does not represent them.

    All-male character selection is a chauvinistic, paternalistic hangover from the days when there were reasonable technical reasons for only including characters of the gender of the most likely audience. Those days are over.

    Right now at UWE, we are committed to bringing the female marine model to the game. Unfortunately, there are technical challenges to doing so quickly, chief among them updating the model and labour time available to animate her. We can't give a timeframe for when she will arrive. But she will arrive, and when she does it will a moment that we can all be very proud of, as an inclusive, welcoming community.
  • haprohapro Join Date: 2012-03-27 Member: 149492Members
    Just add a visor over the marine faces (that's where the HUD is displayed, right?), and now all the characters are androgynous! Problem solved and no time wasted making new models and animations.
  • playerplayer Join Date: 2010-09-12 Member: 73982Members
    Glad we're all on top of the important stuff.
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