UWE, will you be needing a voice actress?
DJPenguin
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For that future female marine you intend on implementing. I know of a very talented lady in Cali whose résumé includes video games and machinima (quite a bit of it on youtube), among others, and is always looking for VA work. Any chance i can hook her up for an audition?
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Sign my counter-petition to put females <i>on</i> the front lines, OP. It looks exactly the same as his petition, and all the same people have signed it, but some of the words are pronounced differently.
ITS A TRAP!!!
Or at least it better be, this is the frontline after all.
Or at least it better be, this is the frontline after all.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I thought this was my computer screen?
Because of the nature of the gaming industry, when I hear about the addition of female characters, I immediately think leather, cleavage, exploitation ect. I'm quite sure UWE would never take it in that direction if it did come about, but then why do it? It certainly isn't realistic.
I certainly hope I'm not a misogynist, but the whole idea just annoys me. It really seems like there is no reason for the addition.
Because of the nature of the gaming industry, when I hear about the addition of female characters, I immediately think leather, cleavage, exploitation ect. I'm quite sure UWE would never take it in that direction if it did come about, but then why do it? It certainly isn't realistic.
I certainly hope I'm not a misogynist, but the whole idea just annoys me. It really seems like there is no reason for the addition.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Maybe we just like seeing more variety or the ability to choose a gender? Maybe girls actually play games on the internets?
Though I'll admit when I saw this thread I thought someone wanted to audition for the alien "Queen Overmind" voice :P
Though I'll admit when I saw this thread I thought someone wanted to audition for the alien "Queen Overmind" voice :P<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm all for accommodating players, but being able to choose gender is one step away from having a Barbie makeover mod before every game.
Additionally, their are also black, asian, indian ect ect players, yet we don't accommodate them (in most games).
Because of the nature of the gaming industry, when I hear about the addition of female characters, I immediately think leather, cleavage, exploitation ect. I'm quite sure UWE would never take it in that direction if it did come about, but then why do it? It certainly isn't realistic.
I certainly hope I'm not a misogynist, but the whole idea just annoys me. It really seems like there is no reason for the addition.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Probably because UWE mentioned it, have you ever looked at the banner above the forum? You can't compare this science fiction game to a more realism driven one like BF3. Yes there are a lot of scuzzball artists who come up with ridiculous clothing for female characters but if the banner is anything to go by this won't happen.
and yeah, female gamers. my immediate family has 3 of them.
It will have an addendum as well to bail out the banks in the future.
Because of the nature of the gaming industry, when I hear about the addition of female characters, I immediately think leather, cleavage, exploitation ect. I'm quite sure UWE would never take it in that direction if it did come about, but then why do it? It certainly isn't realistic.
I certainly hope I'm not a misogynist, but the whole idea just annoys me. It really seems like there is no reason for the addition.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Women don't have to be objectified in every video game appearance. There's nothing wrong with adding in a similarly-armored model with a different body shape to provide players with customization options, except the time it would take to do so. It's already a feature we've been told is planned for post 1.0 by UWE, so it's not like we're just pulling this thought out of the air.
<!--quoteo(post=1928984:date=Apr 23 2012, 04:52 PM:name=inveigle)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (inveigle @ Apr 23 2012, 04:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1928984"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Sign my petition to keep trans-genders on the frontlines. It looks exactly the same as the other petitions, and all the same people have signed it (twice), but all of the words are politically correct and ran by three multi-cultural focus groups and a assembly of over-achieving primates in unitards.
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No.
Sure it's old concept art that isn't up to date with the current marine armor style, but going by this I don't think we'd have to worry about the females being overly sexualized.
Of course I'd hope there would be a black armor variation as well. But these would be a while after 1.0 happens.
I meant it in more of a conceptual way, rather than practically relating directly to NS2. Why do people want to add female models to games? It makes perfect sense in more character driven games, but in anonymous shooters I just don't get it.
Counter-strike, battlefield, COD, NS, they don't need it. It actually breaks the realism in my opinion. Other than that, I think visual customisation in anything other than an RPG is the bane of all games.
Also, its far easier to defend a game with a single player model that just happens to be a white guy, than a game which has two player models that just happen to be a white guy and girl.
And heck, many male (and female) gamers just plain enjoy playing as female characters. There's nothing wrong with that; it's as much of a personal preference as preferring a male character is, for both genders.
would...
not mind having a player model like that in the game.
Yeah, I'm 50/50 on whether I'd go for it. Ultimately it would depend on the details of the model and how they implemented it, but I could totally see myself exclusively playing a female Marine.
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in 90% of her movies, shes the female badass cop/pilot/zombie hunter/mechanic whatsoever.
Make sure to add a quote from Ripley as taunt.
i mean its bad in other threads too, but i must say this one is my new favourite.
DJPenguin, the devs do browse the forums, but i think you would be better of just asking someone directly per mail, for example hugh(ns2hd) as the new "publicrelation"guy, he will surely get you connected to the right guy. hugh@unknownworlds.com
ps: i guess it will take some time bevore we will see female marines, but if it fits, they can hold her in evidence for that day.
no need to, since the hivemind voice is already from a female.. the same voice actress who did the comchair voice, just with alot of filtering and distortion
QFT
BTW, when I talked to Cor at pax (or was it max?), he mentioned the inclusion of a female model at some time in the future (i think post 1.0 was mentioned, cannot remember too well). That got me pumped.
signs and wonders...
it's the dismal tide.
it is not the one thing.
They add absolutely nothing to the game, and aren't required at all, but they require new models, new skins, new audio. For what?
i eagerly await to see a marine pair of Rico and Diz in this game
I hope they keep the model as it is in the art work, simple and neutral appearance. Too often the female characters are overly stylised fertility goddesses, angry butch lesbians, or emo barbies.
Of course they're not necessary, but none of this is necessary; it's all a game served up for our entertainment! The more flavour UWE add the better.
In most video games, half the population is forced to play as a character that does not accurately represent their gender. That is<i> not good enough</i>. This is the 21st century.
The idea that all-male models accurately represent science fiction fighting forces is absolutely ridiculous. Right now, in the year 2012, women may fight as front-line infantry soldiers in many militarises around the world, including that of my home.
More importantly, the idea that there are no female NS2 players is equally ridiculous. Some female players might find it offensive that they cannot choose a female character. Some might be quietly resigned. Others might not care. It is not my place, or anyones place, to make a judgement about what the female playerbase feels. Instead, we should all want to push to create a game that provides a fundamental choice about one's avatar - our online representative image of self - and does not force people to play as an avatar that they feel does not represent them.
All-male character selection is a chauvinistic, paternalistic hangover from the days when there were reasonable technical reasons for only including characters of the gender of the most likely audience. Those days are over.
Right now at UWE, we are committed to bringing the female marine model to the game. Unfortunately, there are technical challenges to doing so quickly, chief among them updating the model and labour time available to animate her. We can't give a timeframe for when she will arrive. But she will arrive, and when she does it will a moment that we can all be very proud of, as an inclusive, welcoming community.