Random client freezing

RuntehRunteh Join Date: 2010-06-26 Member: 72163Members, Reinforced - Shadow
edited February 2012 in Technical Support
<div class="IPBDescription">Every 1-5 minutes</div>Performance has dropped for myself also. I notice it because I have a crap laptop.

Every few seconds I get some sort of lag spike, and I didn't get this in the previous few builds.

It is quite strange, because the game seems really smooth. Yet when a few players are around it bombs horribly. That is without any action also.
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  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    edited February 2012
    your card scores a 728, whereas a 580gtx scores almost 3,937..
    your card is the same performance as a 7900gtx, circa 2004.
    <a href="http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?gpu=GeForce+GT+540M" target="_blank">http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lo...GeForce+GT+540M</a>

    your CPU and ram are up to standard. <u>its your video card, bub. </u>


    whats your laptop model, i'll see what i can find for you?
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  • matsomatso Master of Patches Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7000Members, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, Squad Five Gold, Reinforced - Shadow, NS2 Community Developer
    Run the profiler (open the console and type 'profile' - space to pause, [] to move between frames). It should be pretty obvious what routine is eating up you cpu if you are freezing for seconds at a time.
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  • sebusebu Join Date: 2011-09-21 Member: 122375Members
    My laptop is Asus NS53SV. I dont see your point still tough? If i get stable fps, no lag other than netcode (mp engine) and its my vcard? It could be somekind of memory swapping, but dont know. ill need to run the profile i guess.
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  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    Also, in addition to what Matso suggested, you might try checking the server performance. Type net_stats into the console and look for the tickrate and choke. This type of freezing/rubberbanding can occur when the server's tickrate drops below 10 or you get into the 50+% choke range.
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  • nUfl0wnUfl0w Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42412Members
    edited February 2012
    Hi
    I experience the same problem, but exclusively on mineshaft. Its like 2 sec gameplay 2 sec freeze and so on. I am on a hp g62.

    Another thing I noticed on mineshaft is that I constantly fall through the floor as onos and being teleported back to the right position for every move I make. Just watching around is fine though (moving mouse).
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  • sebusebu Join Date: 2011-09-21 Member: 122375Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1904680:date=Feb 18 2012, 09:26 PM:name=ScardyBob)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ScardyBob @ Feb 18 2012, 09:26 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1904680"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Also, in addition to what Matso suggested, you might try checking the server performance. Type net_stats into the console and look for the tickrate and choke. This type of freezing/rubberbanding can occur when the server's tickrate drops below 10 or you get into the 50+% choke range.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I always play net_stats on... Havent really kept trackof serfer performance though. But i always get killed during freezing so i wonder that i'm only one having it.
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  • sebusebu Join Date: 2011-09-21 Member: 122375Members
    edited March 2012
    I played today, and got good fps around 30-40. That usually doesn't dip. But this freezing continues and it really frustrates me!

    <b>DEVS NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS!</b>

    Could it be optimus releated?

    So here is Profilers caption on my freezing issue

    You can clearly see the peak.

    BUT i don't know how can i browse separate frames on profiler.

    Still getting a lots of that
    <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank"><img src="http://s17.postimage.org/pet72txbz/Untitled_1.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>
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  • sebusebu Join Date: 2011-09-21 Member: 122375Members
    Hey! I'v tried to get help on the general section so i just copy paste my problem

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    Okay, since from the star i bought my copy of ns 2 (something 180 build i guess), my client freezing problem has just gone bad to worse. I cant do anything especially on the alien side. I dont get even a minute freeze free gameplay time. The game is unplayable.

    I just ran the Dxdiag, and i think it made it even worse. I have turned off bloom, realtime shadows fogs.. But, as they dont seem to improve fps and they dont prevent the freeze aswell.

    So my Vcard is Nvidia GT 540M 1024vram. 4GB DDR3 and intel core I5-2410M (2.9ghz turbo boost, hyperthreading, best dual core mobility performance that i have experienced). And these should be able to run ns 2 fine on low resolution (1024x768), and low graphigs ( as they dont seem to improve fps much, it runs aswell as high).

    My avg fps is around 30 (certainly not below) on less than 10 v 10.

    But my main problem is this freezing, It's just so frustrating that you go into combat and know that your gonna win that fight and no, your stuck for 5 second (0 response) and then im dead.

    Is there anything that i could try? I'll record some gameplay (if my pc can handle this), if anything doestn help.

    I have been told, that it could be vcar memory swapping problem, and it certainly does feel something like it.

    Please you must take a look at this!

    I didn't pay for this :(

    [Edit]

    I have never expreienced anything like this on any previous game. I have played FE. Bf3, SC II, DE:HR, NS1

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    So i have had this pretty much the whole time i'v tried to "test" ns2

    So i played today to try few new build out and got stable 30-40 fps, which doesnt usually dip that much whit 8v8.

    But i still get a LOT of freezing

    I have run DXdiag,

    Here is a caption of the Profiler

    <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank"><img src="http://s17.postimage.org/pet72txbz/Untitled_1.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>
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    Any ideas??
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  • sebusebu Join Date: 2011-09-21 Member: 122375Members
    edited July 2012
    Im the OP of this Thread and i posted this ages ago.

    First build i tried was like 16x something, and this has been around for me for ages.

    So I just tested out the new 211 out, and found out that my performance had dropped a little (and i asked around the people on the pub servers they agreed that theirs were too)
    But still im having these freezes that make the game unplayable.

    I'm kinda out of ideas here. I'll try now to force somehting new off whit Nvidia inspector, but dunno what can i get.

    I have been in contact to another developers aswell in regards of optimus and its problems (in case if someone doesn't know what it is <a href="http://www.nvidia.com/object/optimus_technology.html" target="_blank">http://www.nvidia.com/object/optimus_technology.html</a>) It could be the main problem here.

    Freezes last still 1-5 secs and happen constantly especially on combat.
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  • oldassgamersoldassgamers Join Date: 2011-02-02 Member: 80033Members, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited July 2012
    I'm using:

    Intel Sandy Bridge
    4.0 GHZ
    i7 Special edition

    Two graphic cards:
    GTX 680 sli

    And I get randomly freezes to at the current 211/212 build. A pause between 1-2 seconds. Me and my friends are having the same issue. We got this through the current build.
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  • ObraxisObraxis Subnautica Animator & Generalist, NS2 Person Join Date: 2004-07-24 Member: 30071Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Silver, WC 2013 - Supporter, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    The war on jitters and random small freezes continues. They'll be sorted as we head towards final :)
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  • elmo9000elmo9000 Join Date: 2012-03-24 Member: 149324Members
    If you have enough RAM (8gb+ maybe slightly less could be enough) you can try to make a ram drive. 4gb drive is enough to load the whole game in there, and it will get rid of the small hitches that are caused by the game loading assets that are not being precached i assume.

    More info about ram drives <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAM_drive" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAM_drive</a>

    software <a href="http://memory.dataram.com/products-and-services/software/ramdisk/" target="_blank">http://memory.dataram.com/products-and-ser...ftware/ramdisk/</a> The free version supports exactly 4gb which is just enough for ns2.

    If you use it, make sure to have the whole natural selection2 folder backed up tho, because the ram drive tends to get wiped when you boot. You dont even have to make any junctions in steam folder if you move the natural selection 2 folder to the ram drive, it will still work correctly with steam. Personally i noticed smoother experience/less hitches and i have a SSD where i store ns2 so i can only imagine how bad it must be with HDD.
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  • sebusebu Join Date: 2011-09-21 Member: 122375Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1948290:date=Jul 1 2012, 09:20 PM:name=oldassgamers)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (oldassgamers @ Jul 1 2012, 09:20 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1948290"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm using:

    Intel Sandy Bridge
    4.0 GHZ
    i7 Special edition

    Two graphic cards:
    GTX 680 sli

    And I get randomly freezes to at the current 211/212 build. A pause between 1-2 seconds. Me and my friends are having the same issue. We got this through the current build.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    If your problem isn't gamebraking wer not talking same thign here. Its like i have almost every minute this 5 sec freezes and in combat its almost quaranteed and happen even more frequently.

    I cant like play higher lifeforms (if i dive into marine squad as fade its almost 50% sure that ill freeze and causes my death).
    In close combat marine its very furstrating to die as you cant sometimes do a thing.

    So if you can play we are not talking same problem.

    Optimus has this memory swapping which causes lag in almost every game. But it usually happens when the link engages and only at the start of heavy GPU processing (Fe. In sc 2 there is big lag spikes/freezes during first match start, it disappears after first 10 sec or so). In ns 2 its not the case, it continously all game long. Thats why i think its the optimus which causes the problem.
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