Natural Selection 2 News Update - NS2 Build 189 released

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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    In before GorgeArtâ„¢
  • fmponefmpone Join Date: 2011-07-05 Member: 108086Members, Squad Five Blue
    This patch owns hard. But when you play, you can feel the need for Onos and Jp etc. It just makes it all that much sweeter that they are right around the corner.
  • Cyberwarrior00785Cyberwarrior00785 Join Date: 2010-02-20 Member: 70651Members
    YES! Now if only i could RUN it (horrible graphics card)
  • SewlekSewlek The programmer previously known as Schimmel Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16247Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, Subnautica Developer
    to prevent confusion: "Doors can get destroyed by all attacks when locked" this change did not make it in and will be added in 190
  • playerplayer Join Date: 2010-09-12 Member: 73982Members
    It's the build after 188 and no onos? We've been had.
  • konatakonata Join Date: 2011-08-24 Member: 118296Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1887869:date=Dec 2 2011, 05:19 AM:name=player)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (player @ Dec 2 2011, 05:19 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1887869"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's the build after 188 and no onos? We've been had.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <img src="http://f0.bcbits.com/z/67/77/67779445-1.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
  • oldassgamersoldassgamers Join Date: 2011-02-02 Member: 80033Members, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited December 2011
    Hello NS2 crew, I played today on 32 player server and it was so smooth for a time until loading time for server came, my fps was from 60 down to 11 fps.

    example: After a teamwon, round restarted and we all joined in ready room there came a big fps drop for a minor second. When in-game before the round started another major fps drop. Then this issiue comes from time to time in the match, and it doesn't need to be alot activity in the screen for the fps to drop all the way to 11fps and below.

    Anyone else notice this issue? I'm 100 % sure it's the server fault :)


    buy the way, greate patch.
  • IeptBarakatIeptBarakat The most difficult name to speak ingame. Join Date: 2009-07-10 Member: 68107Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    Surprised to see the update. Dota 2 and tf2 were updating first. And then ns2 came and overloaded my steam client. :V
  • Tux0rTux0r Join Date: 2004-04-09 Member: 27808Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Removed alien melee upgrades. I was mistaken. Bad Charlie. Other alien upgrades will be coming.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Can someone elaborate on this one?
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    Sounds great! I remember when whip-reflecting and Gorge spitting were just new ideas; look at them now...
  • PsiWarpPsiWarp Gifted Gorge Richmond, B.C., Canada Join Date: 2010-08-28 Member: 73810Members
    Yes! Ceiling Hydra ambush is A GO!

    Loving the tongue animation when jumping :)
  • konatakonata Join Date: 2011-08-24 Member: 118296Members
    edited December 2011
    Updated. Went to run and got this error message.

    <strike>NS2.exe - Entry Point Not Found

    The procedure entry point
    ?Transition@AnimationGraphState@M4@@QAEHPBVAnimationGraph
    @2@PBVModel@2@QAHH@Z could not be located in the dynamic
    link library Engine.dll.

    Spark editor functions correctly. Game just shows that.</strike>

    Apparently I just needed to validate the files as Steam corrupted them.
  • PaulyPauly Join Date: 2011-12-01 Member: 136238Members
  • SkiddywinksSkiddywinks Join Date: 2011-01-12 Member: 77239Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1887877:date=Dec 2 2011, 03:59 AM:name=Tux0r)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tux0r @ Dec 2 2011, 03:59 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1887877"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Can someone elaborate on this one?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Seconded.
  • PsiWarpPsiWarp Gifted Gorge Richmond, B.C., Canada Join Date: 2010-08-28 Member: 73810Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1887877:date=Dec 1 2011, 08:59 PM:name=Tux0r)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tux0r @ Dec 1 2011, 08:59 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1887877"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Can someone elaborate on this one?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Literally means that Alien Melee Upgrade on the Whip has been removed.
  • peregrinusperegrinus Join Date: 2010-07-16 Member: 72445Members
    awww I just stopped playing DOD:S cos my eyes were hurting now I gotta start up NS2! Damn you UWE, damn you to hell!
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Aiming for Onos and Jetpack in 190? That's cool.
  • StormApanStormApan Join Date: 2007-06-17 Member: 61280Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    Wouldn't it be cooler if the whip had a % to whack back grenades?
    Starting with like 25% then upgradeable to 50ish?
  • peregrinusperegrinus Join Date: 2010-07-16 Member: 72445Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1887896:date=Dec 2 2011, 06:52 AM:name=StormApan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (StormApan @ Dec 2 2011, 06:52 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1887896"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Wouldn't it be cooler if the whip had a % to whack back grenades?
    Starting with like 25% then upgradeable to 50ish?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    % of what? Chance to hit/miss?
  • WizardHUNWizardHUN Join Date: 2011-10-23 Member: 128903Members
    edited December 2011
    <i>Doors can get destroyed by all attacks when locked</i> - This means marines have to repair doors to lock again? Or they cant be locked again?
    <i>Whips will throw grenades back to the marine in case the redirected grenade would hurt a friendly unit </i>- You mean direct hit or if there is a gorge behind whips, GL is useless cause grenades come back? What if more grenades then 1 are landing? I guess it drops back only 1 at the time
    <i>Removed alien melee upgrades. I was mistaken. Bad Charlie. Other alien upgrades will be coming.</i> - Until that? Aliens have -3 upgrades?

    <i>What about the bug which caused players cant or hardly enter the CC?</i> Its very annoying. Sorry I dont see this fix in the list.
  • StormApanStormApan Join Date: 2007-06-17 Member: 61280Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    edited December 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1887897:date=Dec 2 2011, 05:57 AM:name=peregrinus)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peregrinus @ Dec 2 2011, 05:57 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1887897"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->% of what? Chance to hit/miss?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Hit / miss; Yes. Or rather doesn't notice the grenade at all. Do not need to play animation for a miss. The notes now says whip will repell grenades that would hurt anything alien (seems really advanced codewize :o )
    I'd rather see a percentage to whip back ANY grenade.

    If you haven't seen the movie: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaBVFxPzJv4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaBVFxPzJv4</a>
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    * Fixed bug where pistol fire rate had no limitation
    * Removed Pistol delay between shots
    ???
  • IronsoulIronsoul Join Date: 2011-03-12 Member: 86048Members
    ARG, RAGE FACE. YOU NERfed the gorge and the aliens in general, turret spam is as bad as ever and I'm not playing again until build 190. I thought 188 was terrible, but this... this is terrible... compared to 188.

    Sorry UWE, but it had to be said, you have really made this game unfun.
  • CrispixCrispix Join Date: 2007-01-10 Member: 59543Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    This build is the best build yet. FPS is so fluid. Getting over 100 in the RR. Between 40-50 while actually playing.

    Good job UWE, Woot!
  • cmc5788cmc5788 Join Date: 2009-10-06 Member: 68959Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1887905:date=Dec 2 2011, 01:49 AM:name=Ironsoul)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ironsoul @ Dec 2 2011, 01:49 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1887905"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->ARG, RAGE FACE. YOU NERfed the gorge and the aliens in general, turret spam is as bad as ever and I'm not playing again until build 190. I thought 188 was terrible, but this... this is terrible... compared to 188.

    Sorry UWE, but it had to be said, you have really made this game unfun.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I think the fact that that the "aliens being nerfed" has enraged you enough to result in this post disproves any kind of larger point you were trying to make. For one, clearly you care enough for it to piss you off, which means the game's coming along nicely. Furthermore, for every ounce of fun you lose in a bout of insanely disproportionate forum-anger, the rest of us more than gain back by witnessing the hilarity of your childlike tantrum.
  • Ender_74Ender_74 Join Date: 2011-01-28 Member: 79329Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1887877:date=Dec 2 2011, 04:59 AM:name=Tux0r)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tux0r @ Dec 2 2011, 04:59 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1887877"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Can someone elaborate on this one?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    +1
    Does this means marines keep their armor upgrades but aliens lose melee upgrades. 4-5 bites in end-game ????
  • IronsoulIronsoul Join Date: 2011-03-12 Member: 86048Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1887907:date=Dec 2 2011, 07:56 AM:name=cmc5788)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cmc5788 @ Dec 2 2011, 07:56 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1887907"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think the fact that that the "aliens being nerfed" has enraged you enough to result in this post disproves any kind of larger point you were trying to make. For one, clearly you care enough for it to piss you off, which means the game's coming along nicely. Furthermore, for every ounce of fun you lose in a bout of insanely disproportionate forum-anger, the rest of us more than gain back by witnessing the hilarity of your childlike tantrum.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    so you used a bunch of intelligent sounding words, but in truth, achieved nothing. Thanks. I'm not going to be continuing this potential argument further.

    I fully support ns2, but at the moment, as a game(rather than a tech demo), it's terrible. Prove me wrong, explain to me why ns2 at it's current state is fun, interesting, and balanced(enough).
  • Cyborg16Cyborg16 Join Date: 2006-11-18 Member: 58656Members
    Well at least if the aliens got nerfed marines might actually win a bit more (without turret farms).

    I second this; for some reason it's no longer possible to walk into command chairs any more:
    <!--quoteo(post=1887899:date=Dec 2 2011, 06:35 AM:name=WizardHUN)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WizardHUN @ Dec 2 2011, 06:35 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1887899"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><i>What about the bug which caused players cant or hardly enter the CC?</i> Its very annoying. Sorry I dont see this fix in the list.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • peregrinusperegrinus Join Date: 2010-07-16 Member: 72445Members
    Just tested 189.

    Distance placing cysts and hydras is brilliant, and long overdue.

    FPS increase, smoother animations, and less hitching.

    Probably best build ever for me.
  • DJPenguinDJPenguin Useless Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18538Members
    saving the best (heavy) for last eh?
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