Bring back the grenade launcher
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Space Jockey Join Date: 2011-08-05 Member: 114269Members, Constellation
Space Jockey Join Date: 2011-08-05 Member: 114269Members, Constellation
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Bring back the grenade launcher / ditch the lmg attachment.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why?
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What a great suggestion, with such well-explained reasons! I'd have to be a gibbering moron <i>not</i> to threaten the developers with physical violence upon rejection of this idea!
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NS1: 4 Grenades per Clip, then slow reload each gren to get back 4 in a clip, no LMG, 3s fuse, mid-lategame
NS2: 8 grenades per "Clip", not so slow reload as NS1 but each shot is a reload, insta "clip" refill, LMG, 1.5s fuse, early-lategame
That's why.
Obvisally not, or the graphic would not show 8. GL is fine as it is, dont nerf marines, nerf aliens if anything
And i think they grenades should de-creased to 4 but still a attachment, to increase balance, it should do more damage against buildings.
This is a much better argument than your previous statement…
In this case, I support your idea.
+1
If anything they need to give the LMG lots more options for attachments,
GL
SG
Tazer
Flamer
Smart Gun
+Ammo Count
And when Minigun is in game, not alll maries will be carrying a GL, its lack of options more than an OP issue, the SG is better in many situations than the GL.
I'm pretty sure it is a bug. if it's intended, I'm sorry, but it would be a good way to balance the GL, by limiting max ammo and refill rate (anti spam patch!)
GL is not fine, what game are you playing?
The current grenade launcher is heavily overpowered at the moment, hence why many teams go directly for that upgrade.
Damage and AoE (maybe also reloading) should be nerfed. Grenades are insane at the moment.
I think the reason aliens are winning more than marines at the moment is mostly due to performance, that limits the marines more than the aliens.
The current grenade launcher is heavily overpowered at the moment, hence why many teams go directly for that upgrade.
Damage and AoE (maybe also reloading) should be nerfed. Grenades are insane at the moment.
I think the reason aliens are winning more than marines at the moment is mostly due to performance, that limits the marines more than the aliens.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sorry mate I just don't agree, yes GL is good, but its not an instant 'I Win' button, I would MUCH rather go face to face with a Fade if I was carrying a SG over a GL.
I agree however that the reloading time on the grenades is far far far to fast, should refill 1 nade that time, so it should take approximatly 8 times longer than it does in B185 to refill the clip.
If you can, please tell me how the GL is any more OP than
Fade blinking, swipe x2, kill marine, blink out (this takes what 2seconds?)
Lerk moving so fast that most people cant even aim fast enough, and there ability to decimate buildings in what 10 seconds.
Lerk moving so fast that most people cant even aim fast enough, and there ability to decimate buildings in what 10 seconds.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oh, you mean like the grenade insta-kill to a skulk? or the *throw a few grenades* -> clears the entire hydra/crag/whip fortification + any gorges trying to keep it alive?
A SG insta kills a skulk!
Why are Gorges trying to keep it alive! Thats NOT thier job (solo anyway),. That like complaining that a Fade in MS is OP because he can kill buildings when the rest of the maries in are datacore.
So it gets a specialized weapon that needs protection of a team and not just something you can/should equip your whole team with.
So that makes everything better? Or?
<!--quoteo(post=1877153:date=Sep 27 2011, 11:23 AM:name=Cygone)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cygone @ Sep 27 2011, 11:23 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1877153"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Why are Gorges trying to keep it alive!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why shouldn't they? Should they just sit in a corner and do nothing?
<!--quoteo(post=1877155:date=Sep 27 2011, 11:48 AM:name=Koruyo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Koruyo @ Sep 27 2011, 11:48 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1877155"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think it would be a good idea to remove the lmg part of the gl, and maybe further tweak how fast you can shoot, how much ammo you carry, costs, and dmg.
So it gets a specialized weapon that needs protection of a team and not just something you can/should equip your whole team with.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Agreed.
Why shouldn't they? Should they just sit in a corner and do nothing?
Agreed.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Smasher, STOP taking what I say out of context, that just ###### rude!
NS2: 8 grenades per "Clip", not so slow reload as NS1 but each shot is a reload, insta "clip" refill, LMG, 1.5s fuse, early-lategame
That's why.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
NS1: 4 per clip and 32 per carry!! so walk out heavy armed and able to kill alien struktures like hell but!!!!!!!!!! no rifle, good balance for the power + 4 rounds really quick fired and done real damage ...
NS2: 8 Granades at all then out of ammo lmg standart weapon remaining so paying for only 8 nades if not resupplyied... + slow rate of fire cuz relode after each
im sorry to say but the old GL kicked ass, the new one is handy but more or less a toy i would always take shotgun or flamer and not this to less ammo to slow relode for a combat. with the old one + JP you could just fly around the hive and rain death! aliens feard it. the new one is like ok i got hit by 1 nade if i am alive ill 90% kill the marine.
i mean there is a reason that the m203 is a nice atechment to the m16 but there are REAL GL´s like the Milkor MGL
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"QUOTE (Koruyo @ Sep 27 2011, 11:48 AM) *
I think it would be a good idea to remove the lmg part of the gl, and maybe further tweak how fast you can shoot, how much ammo you carry, costs, and dmg.
So it gets a specialized weapon that needs protection of a team and not just something you can/should equip your whole team with.
Agreed."
well ladies you are tlaking about the OLD GL !!!
Honestly I don't see how LMG + GL discourages teamplay, because Rambos usually get eaten by skulks after their first or 2nd grenade. A good team tactic is to give everyone GL and have some people nading while the rest of the team protects them with the LMG, then switch off when the first group runs out of nades, or tag team, whatever. Rambos still lose with the current system, I've never seen a rine take down an entire hive by himself with a GL.
Eeh? I just gave answers/comments to your points/arguments?
On topic:
I think a more powerful/specialized GL that needs protection of teammates is a better option than the "a bit of everything"-combo we have now with the gl/lmg fusion. It would define the different roles of marines (carrying different weapons) better, be more teamplay-oriented aswell as be more rewarding when infact working as a team - covering each others' weak-spots.
On topic:
I think a more powerful/specialized GL that needs protection of teammates is a better option than the "a bit of everything"-combo we have now with the gl/lmg fusion. It would define the different roles of marines (carrying different weapons) better, be more teamplay-oriented aswell as be more rewarding when infact working as a team - covering each others' weak-spots.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Which we will get when the minigun is introduced,
I think people are forgetting that even tho the GL is popular atm, it will not be when we can purchase a minigun for what 30? you will see ALOT less GLs then. Lets wait untill ALL the guns are in the game, then have alook at balance, for all we know, the GL might end up needing a buff!
I think people are forgetting that even tho the GL is popular atm, it will not be when we can purchase a minigun for what 30? you will see ALOT less GLs then. Lets wait untill ALL the guns are in the game, then have alook at balance, for all we know, the GL might end up needing a buff!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah I agree, that's why I want the GL to be even more "GL", and the minigun to be "a lot minigun", so there's these good choices, all viable, but they come at an expense of something else. Not just to have it as an attatchment.