Gorge build abilty

PedoKumaPedoKuma Join Date: 2011-01-10 Member: 76968Members
Hey, thanks to <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=113667" target="_blank">this </a>thread I had an idea about gorges' gameplay: Let them be able to purchase small chambers (I mean, not mature), maybe small pustules too, with their p res.

In addition to that, make the chambers built by commander cost his p res, because actually the alien commander has no way to use his p res, and make the mature upgrade cost t res.

<b>PROS :</b>

-Gorges could built like NS1, making gorges more useful and let them have a support role as big as in ns1.

-Alien commander could use his p res.

-More chambers built every rounds, and in early game.

<b>
CONS :</b>
-Would need some coding from UWE.

-I actually can't see "bad" cons.

Comments

  • swalkswalk Say hello to my little friend. Join Date: 2011-01-20 Member: 78384Members, Squad Five Blue
    edited June 2011
    I don't really like that you link to my thread while you think that is what the alien commander should be using his Personal Resources on :P
    He should be using team resources on chambers, as they give the alien team upgrades.
    I only agree about one thing in this thread, and that is gorges being able to help build all alien structures. Like marines can speed up their building process(that should, in my opinion, require a welder. but it is not in the game yet, sooo for laters I think).
  • PedoKumaPedoKuma Join Date: 2011-01-10 Member: 76968Members
    Your part on the alien commander side gave me the idea :p

    Alien and marine gameplays should be asymmetric, actually, the marine comm do NOT have enough p resources to waste it on scan/arc/macs, and he'll have even less in B178, that's why I thought only the alien commander could p res on abilities and why not on building chambers (cause I'm sure you won't be spamming ombras over ombras).

    Then, as I thought this, I said to myself : "hey, why not let gorges build too", so I wrote up in a new thread, maybe I could have posted this in yours but I still think it needs a new one.


    About the "chambers give the alien team upgrades", if I remember correctly, only mature structures can research upgrades (maybe not the A1/2/3 and W1/2/3), so letting the alien comm being able to "mature" chambers with the t res is the same.

    Then, about the "speeding up building process with welders", as the MACs will be available at the robotic factory, marines will have to buy welders in the CC (it is something I already imagined and posted), and the comm will need marines spending resources on early welders instead of early shotguns. But yes, I agree with you that the "magic building hands" of marines are weird and they should need welder to build (as they used it to repair buildings in NS).
  • KurrineKurrine Join Date: 2010-07-03 Member: 72235Members
    edited June 2011
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I only agree about one thing in this thread, and that is gorges being able to help build all alien structures. Like marines can speed up their building process(that should, in my opinion, require a welder. but it is not in the game yet, sooo for laters I think).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yeah I'd like the welder animation at least in if we're not getting full blown welders (which I'd prefer honestly). As for the gorge building structures.. I'd like some of the old gorge functionality back and if not hive structures it's own structures then like traps maybe, something more than hydras at least. I'm hoping at least they're going to make temp infestation permanent if it's connected to regular infestation.
  • twilitebluetwiliteblue bug stalker Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13116Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    It appears that the Gorge can no longer hold "Use" to accelerate the growth of structures in B179.

    IMO it needs to be restored, considering Hives now take so long to build.
  • PsiWarpPsiWarp Gifted Gorge Richmond, B.C., Canada Join Date: 2010-08-28 Member: 73810Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1851065:date=Jun 8 2011, 11:53 PM:name=twiliteblue)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (twiliteblue @ Jun 8 2011, 11:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1851065"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It appears that the Gorge can no longer hold "Use" to accelerate the growth of structures in B179.

    IMO it needs to be restored, considering Hives now take so long to build.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Oh? I can still hear the accelerating growth sound when I hold E. Thing is, the percentage doesn't seem to bounce up like before, but I'm sure growth is accelerated with use.
  • peregrinusperegrinus Join Date: 2010-07-16 Member: 72445Members
    I tried speeding up crag and hydra build times using 'E' and it worked for me. If you can't get it working try to aim at a different spot on the structure nearer the centre.
  • twilitebluetwiliteblue bug stalker Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13116Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited June 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1851092:date=Jun 9 2011, 02:40 AM:name=peregrinus)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peregrinus @ Jun 9 2011, 02:40 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1851092"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I tried speeding up crag and hydra build times using 'E' and it worked for me. If you can't get it working try to aim at a different spot on the structure nearer the centre.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Interesting... I tried to help build Hives and Harvesters, with little success. I shall test it on the other structures later.

    (Update) Holding "Use" as Gorge in fact does accelerate alien building construction. It's just that the Hive takes so long to construct now, the effect a single Gorge has is not apparent immediately.
  • peregrinusperegrinus Join Date: 2010-07-16 Member: 72445Members
    Yea hives now take 3 minutes to construct without gorge assistance.
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