Question about system Requirements Recommended

oskuro

Hi, i read the System Requirements, but i suppose they are the minimum system requirements recommended for playing:

<b>System Requirements:

1.2 GHz Processor, 256MB RAM, a DirectX 9 level graphics card, Windows Vista/2000/XP, Steam, mouse, keyboard and an internet connection.</b>

I would like to know, what System Requirements do you really recommend.

I have, right now, a "crappy" computer, and i would like to know if i can buy the game and play with no problems, or if i will need to buy a new computer.

Windows XP
Intel Pentium 4 2.40 Ghz
1GB RAM (yeah, i know, 1 GB Ram Sucks... )

and i was thinking in buying a "cheap" graphic card, will this one be enough for this game?:

GeForce FX 5500 256MB AGP

* Dealer: NVidia
* Graphic Chip: NVIDIA 5500
* Ram Memory: 256 MB
* Memory Interface: 128 bit
* Core: 250 MHz
* Clock Memory: 333 MHz
* 1 X DVI / 1 X DB Sub / TV Out


Thanks for all.

Im going to read all the info i can meanwhile, waiting for your answer.

garvani

To put it bluntly, no! That system will struggle. The game has not been optimised yet so its hard to say how it will run once its reached 1.0, but at a guess that system is going to really struggle unless you like playing at 640x480 with every graphic option either on low or turned off :)
Would suggest you save your $ and put it towards a decent new system instead.

oskuro

<!--quoteo(post=1799514:date=Sep 22 2010, 06:54 PM:name=garvani)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (garvani @ Sep 22 2010, 06:54 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1799514"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->To put it bluntly, no! That system will struggle. The game has not been optimised yet so its hard to say how it will run once its reached 1.0, but at a guess that system is going to really struggle unless you like playing at 640x480 with every graphic option either on low or turned off :)
Would suggest you save your $ and put it towards a decent new system instead.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Thanks.

First, sorry if i write something wrong, im not english ;)

Second, yeah, i know, my system sucks.

I played from the very first minute when NS1 appeared, and i could play with no problems, but yeah, i saw many videos in youtube of NS2, and yeah, if i want to play with high resolution, im sure my pc will struggle.

What do you recommend me then?.

I know this game its not a game that needs, you know, 6 GB RAM, a graphic card of 500 € and so on, but well i would like to know what computer will you recommend me to have no problems playing this great game.

Thanks!!

Mr. Epic

The fx5500 was an entry level card in 2003/4, it will likely not even get a useful framerate at the menu. That card will certainly not work for the game.

Kouji_San

The main problem is that your cpu, gpu and memory on their own are all the main bottleneck to run current gen games. I run a 2.2Ghz Intel Core2Duo with 2Gb of ram and a HD4850 3dcard. That is currenly I guess the entry model (it's a 1 year old pc and still runs most games at high or medium settings)

That is the bare minimum if you want reliable framerates when playing on somekind of decent resolution and quality level

spellman23

PC Gamer puts together some nice rigs at entry, mid, and dream levels. You could start with one of those and work your way up or down.

Taking a look at the Anandtech and Tom's Hardware sites also should give some nice insight into solid rigs you can build.

Or just buy a mid level Dell and add a video card (make sure it has a PCIex16 port).

DJPenguin

<!--quoteo(post=1799519:date=Sep 22 2010, 07:39 PM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Sep 22 2010, 07:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1799519"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The main problem is that your cpu, gpu and memory on their own are all the main bottleneck to run current gen games. I run a 2.2Ghz Intel Core2Duo with 2Gb of ram and a HD4850 3dcard. That is currenly I guess the entry model (it's a 1 year old pc and still runs most games at high or medium settings)

That is the bare minimum if you want reliable framerates when playing on somekind of decent resolution and quality level<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

if you call that minimum, what would my 991 mhz CPU be?

weezl

amd phenom 2 x4 965 125W ~ €120
2x amd 5850 ~ €210 x 2
amd 870 mobo with 2 pci-e 16x ~ €90
RAM 2x2GB 1600MHz CL7 ~ €80
fast HDD 640GB ~ €40
PSU 80+ silver 750W ~ €120
some fitting chassis ~ €100

total €1000 and you have a balanced kickass gaming pc which is value for the money
it will be able to max settings in almost all current games with fully playable 50+ fps, and keep you floating fine for 3-5 years ahead (depending on how picky you are)
(not to mention overclocking potential)

WhiteZero

<!--quoteo(post=1799537:date=Sep 22 2010, 11:11 PM:name=weezl)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (weezl @ Sep 22 2010, 11:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1799537"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->amd phenom 2 x4 965 125W ~ €120
2x amd 5850 ~ €210 x 2
amd 870 mobo with 2 pci-e 16x ~ €90
RAM 2x2GB 1600MHz CL7 ~ €80
fast HDD 640GB ~ €40
PSU 80+ silver 750W ~ €120
some fitting chassis ~ €100

total €1000 and you have a balanced kickass gaming pc which is value for the money
it will be able to max settings in almost all current games with fully playable 50+ fps, and keep you floating fine for 3-5 years ahead (depending on how picky you are)
(not to mention overclocking potential)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I'd do 2x GTX 460 1GB over the 5850's. Two 1GB 460's in SLI are very close to as powerful as 2x 5870's in X-Fire.

Wheeee

you would be struggling to run at 320x240 resolution with that rig :3

i'd say a good estimate of recommended setup is a mid-level computer from 1-2 years ago. this will obviously get better as they optimize things, but right now that's probably what you would want to be using if you wanted to play.

weezl

<!--quoteo(post=1799538:date=Sep 23 2010, 06:16 AM:name=WhiteZero)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WhiteZero @ Sep 23 2010, 06:16 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1799538"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'd do 2x GTX 460 1GB over the 5850's. Two 1GB 460's in SLI are very close to as powerful as 2x 5870's in X-Fire.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
you have a point there
it depends on which game, resolution and AA&AF settings, but your statement often holds
so i'd have to agree there..

Avalon

Honestly, once the game hits 1.0, assuming you're not running on a 24" screen, even a Radeon HD 5770 will be fine.

WhiteZero

<!--quoteo(post=1799546:date=Sep 23 2010, 12:01 AM:name=Avalon)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Avalon @ Sep 23 2010, 12:01 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1799546"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Honestly, once the game hits 1.0, assuming you're not running on a 24" screen, even a Radeon HD 5770 will be fine.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
5770 is a pretty damn good card for the money. :)

Dalin Seivewright

I think the recommended specs at this point should be taken very lightly. The game isn't even out of Alpha so I'm sure the bare-minimum specs will be very fluid for awhile.

SwampRat

I've said it before but repetition is good sometimes - I think it's a bit wrong of UWE to have min-specs that at this stage couldn't realistically run the game. If there's some uncertainty it should say that and probably err on the side of caution.
There's no point in misleading people at this stage, surely? Why not say, "we're aiming at these, but can't guarantee it" or something if you must be optamistic.

Kouji_San

<!--quoteo(post=1799528:date=Sep 23 2010, 01:34 AM:name=DJPenguin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DJPenguin @ Sep 23 2010, 01:34 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1799528"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->if you call that minimum, what would my 991 mhz CPU be?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Outdated?

With bare minimum, I just wanted to show a system that can still run most current gen games on medium/high at decent FPS. While not being a top end money sucking monster pc... Just a framework to use a current minimum spec to base a new computer on. As in: you have to at least have something similar or bettah...

SN.Wolf

I didn't want to start a new thread so i will post this here.

I am running a somewhat outdated system consisting of an AMD 3800+ Dual Core 2.2Ghz, 3GB Ram with a Nvidia Geforce 9500GT 1GB Video card and was wondering if reverting back to the SLI dual 7950GT's 512MB cards would help or not but i think if i read correctly it only uses one of the GPU's when running SLI so based on that info would i be better off with the single 9500GT 1GB card?. And would it help to run Dual 9500's?

Kouji_San

Spark currently lacks support for SLI, but I think the 9500 1Gb has them beat anyways. I'd benchmark both configurations with Futuremark, so you know which is the fastest spec.

FuzionMonkey

<!--quoteo(post=1799512:date=Sep 22 2010, 07:43 PM:name=oskuro)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (oskuro @ Sep 22 2010, 07:43 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1799512"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hi, i read the System Requirements, but i suppose they are the minimum system requirements recommended for playing:

<b>System Requirements:

1.2 GHz Processor, 256MB RAM, a DirectX 9 level graphics card, Windows Vista/2000/XP, Steam, mouse, keyboard and an internet connection.</b>

I would like to know, what System Requirements do you really recommend.

I have, right now, a "crappy" computer, and i would like to know if i can buy the game and play with no problems, or if i will need to buy a new computer.

Windows XP
Intel Pentium 4 2.40 Ghz
1GB RAM (yeah, i know, 1 GB Ram Sucks... )

and i was thinking in buying a "cheap" graphic card, will this one be enough for this game?:

GeForce FX 5500 256MB AGP

* Dealer: NVidia
* Graphic Chip: NVIDIA 5500
* Ram Memory: 256 MB
* Memory Interface: 128 bit
* Core: 250 MHz
* Clock Memory: 333 MHz
* 1 X DVI / 1 X DB Sub / TV Out


Thanks for all.

Im going to read all the info i can meanwhile, waiting for your answer.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

What? Your computer is not suited for gaming whatsoever.

Bare minimum:
Dual core processor
2GB RAM
$80 GPU

The NS2 engine, in its current form, is not well optimized. Even $2000 dollar computers can struggle running the game at a high framerate. Obviously this will be fixed when NS2 has completed development, but with your hardware you shouldn't expect to play any modern fps whatsover.

For like 300 dollars (the price of an xbox) you can get yourself a good dual core processor, motherboard, 4GB of ram, and a budget GPU.

Obraxis

Agreed. Your system is just too out of date on a number of levels. For about 400 Euros/Dollars/Pounds you can actually build a new system and use some of your old parts like ur HDD and ur DVD drive. Maybe even ur case.

And yes, Minimum Dual-Core CPU, 2GB RAM, 500W PSU & Decent GFX card (not under 60 Euro/Pound/Dollar).

katzenkorbanfasser

I tested ns2 on a P4 2.8 with 1GB ram and a geforce 7300 se
windowed and minimum, can't say anything about performance because of lag issues but it was running...I think next patch will show more reliable results (had about 0.5 FPS)
but i am going to spend ~ 1000 euros for a new machine so I don't worry much...

weezl

<!--quoteo(post=1802569:date=Oct 24 2010, 02:59 PM:name=katzenkorbanfasser)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (katzenkorbanfasser @ Oct 24 2010, 02:59 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1802569"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I tested ns2 on a P4 2.8 with 1GB ram and a geforce 7300 se
windowed and minimum, can't say anything about performance because of lag issues but it was running...I think next patch will show more reliable results (had about 0.5 FPS)
but i am going to spend ~ 1000 euros for a new machine so I don't worry much...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
congratulations!
keep an eye out for amd 6870 prices

katzenkorbanfasser

<!--quoteo(post=1802573:date=Oct 24 2010, 04:00 PM:name=weezl)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (weezl @ Oct 24 2010, 04:00 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1802573"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->congratulations!
keep an eye out for amd 6870 prices<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I am not sure yet if this is only good because gtx470 is getting cheaper. True, I want a quiet card, but the amd 6870 is maybe too dirty in its filtering. On the other hand they provide more options for the user, something I really missed with Ati. Since I have time I could wait how the 6900 series show up...

weezl

<!--quoteo(post=1802601:date=Oct 24 2010, 10:27 PM:name=katzenkorbanfasser)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (katzenkorbanfasser @ Oct 24 2010, 10:27 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1802601"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I am not sure yet if this is only good because gtx470 is getting cheaper. True, I want a quiet card, but the amd 6870 is maybe too dirty in its filtering. On the other hand they provide more options for the user, something I really missed with Ati. Since I have time I could wait how the 6900 series show up...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
yep, those will own more... :)

1ERASER1

<!--quoteo(post=1799538:date=Sep 23 2010, 05:16 PM:name=WhiteZero)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WhiteZero @ Sep 23 2010, 05:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1799538"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'd do 2x GTX 460 1GB over the 5850's. Two 1GB 460's in SLI are very close to as powerful as 2x 5870's in X-Fire.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I'd change that opinion for 2x 6870's. They'll outperform it by quite a bit. Also ATI / AMD have released a new AA called MLAA.

It gives you the same quality of 8MSAA + but without the performance hit. Very impressive stuff.

Hugh

Semi-thread hijack but relevant to conversation: I'll sell a 2 month old 5870 if anyone's interested!

Back on topic: As it stands now I've tested on a 9300m (Slideshow on low 1600x900), 8700m GT (Choppy high 1920x1080) GTX 260 ( 1920x 1080 high, Smooth) and 5870 (1920 x 1080 high, Smooth as silk). I believe Spark doesn't yet support MPGU, I saw no performance increase with 8700m GT's SLI or GTX 260 SLI.

As the engine is refined, I imagine that the dev team will aim to make medium-high settings hit 30-40fps on mid-range GPUs such as 6870, 5770, and GTX 460 at 1920 x 1080.

There's no getting past the fundamental problem: Good looking engines need horsepower, Spark is good looking, and horsepower costs money.

oskuro

Hi again.

Im about to buy a new computer, these are the specifications i chose, hope they will be enough :)

Intel Core i7 950 3.06Ghz Box Socket 1366
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5
Noctua NH-D14
G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 PC3-12800 6GB 3x2GB CL8
WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA3 MASTER
Antec Nine Hundred Two
Corsair TX850 850W
Point of View GeForce GTX480 1536MB GDDR5
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio PCI Express


Hope with that i will have no problems!!!!!!!!!! :P

PaiSand

oskuro, that is like more than enough.
Make sure to get the latest nVidia driver too (260.99, just released). As it comes with Physics you don't need to install the one that comes with the game.

oskuro

<!--quoteo(post=1803157:date=Oct 27 2010, 03:52 PM:name=PaiSand)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PaiSand @ Oct 27 2010, 03:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1803157"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->oskuro, that is like more than enough.
Make sure to get the latest nVidia driver too (260.99, just released). As it comes with Physics you don't need to install the one that comes with the game.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Ok, once i have my computer i will update those drivers, i note it down thanks :)

Well, i suppose this game wont need a very good graphic card, i mean, i know this is not natural selection 1, but i dont think this game have graphics as for example Fallout, Metro 2033, Arma... i will check now the minimum requirements but i hope i can run this game with "0" lag.

Hmmmm and still there are problems with the game? it´s still in beta? I´ve been a little off these days and i didnt read forum.

PaiSand

In my nVidia 9800 GT works really nice. And the graphics are like any other modern game (since HL2:ep2 'till today) or better.
You'll still have lag, is part of the alpha process, things are not yet completely stable, but is getting better with every update.

It is ALPHA, not beta.

oskuro

Oh ok.

And when is supossed to end this alpha version?