<!--quoteo(post=1759956:date=Mar 18 2010, 11:36 PM:name=Cereal_KillR)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cereal_KillR @ Mar 18 2010, 11:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1759956"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It better be in slowmotion though. Please tell me there's slowmo. And <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXbhfwHorlI" target="_blank">different angles</a> (sorry for crappy quality)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well the stunts all use predefined angles which switch depending on your position so you get lots of camera angles as you move around, I don't think they use slowmo much though, although the PS3 version lets you record constantly so you can take it onto the PC and slow it down if you like.
<!--quoteo(post=1759916:date=Mar 18 2010, 10:32 PM:name=Chris0132)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chris0132 @ Mar 18 2010, 10:32 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1759916"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->But restricting content to follow some guideline isn't like outright demanding money from devs for the right to develop a game on the platform.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> No, it's in addition to it, the PS2 for example requires you to buy a license, but you're fairly free to develop what you like. Nintendo (at least they used to, don't know about now) also enforce strict guidelines as to content, as well as demanding a license fee.
You'd probably get a development kit which helps you to understand the architecture and some of the development consoles which will play anything, but you can't just go and make a game and get a publisher, you need a license too. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> So, like I said, you get something for the payment to the platform-owning company.
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<!--quoteo(post=1760038:date=Mar 19 2010, 08:33 AM:name=Konohas Perverted Hermit)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Konohas Perverted Hermit @ Mar 19 2010, 08:33 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1760038"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Who even said PC gaming was dead in the first place? Also why should we care what EA says?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oddly, EA is becoming the respectable one amongst game publishers. At least in terms of (DRM) fairness towards costumers, if not actual game quality. (Read: Spore)
<!--quoteo(post=1760784:date=Mar 23 2010, 04:55 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lolfighter @ Mar 23 2010, 04:55 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1760784"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So if Activision were 100% evil, EA would be 40% good?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> 40% better, not good. Which isn't saying much considering the scale of horror we're dealing with here.
<!--quoteo(post=1760045:date=Mar 19 2010, 07:28 AM:name=NeonSpyder)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NeonSpyder @ Mar 19 2010, 07:28 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1760045"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Oddly, EA is becoming the respectable one amongst game publishers. At least in terms of (DRM) fairness towards costumers, if not actual game quality. (Read: Spore)
It must be their Vancouver, Canada office! :D<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Don't care about that end. Look how they butchered Command and Conquer... Command and Conquer 4, is already in the $20 bin at WalMart lol... Fark EA.
I wonder what kind of calculation the big companies are doing on piracy costs. They seem more than eager to trade some reputation and already paying customers to get the DRM working.
<!--quoteo(post=1760984:date=Mar 24 2010, 02:48 PM:name=Bacillus)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bacillus @ Mar 24 2010, 02:48 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1760984"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I wonder what kind of calculation the big companies are doing on piracy costs. They seem more than eager to trade some reputation and already paying customers to get the DRM working.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Chances are, they are calculating nothing. For what I gather, they simply trust people who are supposed to be experts on these things, who just so happen to work a DRM manufacturer.
Many things work like that in the world of business, actually.
<!--quoteo(post=1760989:date=Mar 24 2010, 12:15 PM:name=Draco_2k)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Draco_2k @ Mar 24 2010, 12:15 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1760989"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Chances are, they are calculating nothing. For what I gather, they simply trust people who are supposed to be experts on these things, who just so happen to work a DRM manufacturer.
Many things work like that in the world of business, actually.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> It works like that on some cases yeah. Most of the time it's because the research has no business value though. For example not selling tobacco has far less profit in it that selling it.
Meanwhile we are discussing extremely professionally run, profit seeking, huge companies here. In this case they have the funding and motive for unbiased research. CEOs of big companies are paid that much exactly because they are capable of doing decisions like this right. At least I'd like to believe they're not complete fools falling for the first biased statistic.
<!--quoteo(post=1760994:date=Mar 24 2010, 03:53 PM:name=Bacillus)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bacillus @ Mar 24 2010, 03:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1760994"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It works like that on some cases yeah. Most of the time it's because the research has no business value though. For example not selling tobacco has far less profit in it that selling it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Great point, yes.
<!--quoteo(post=1760994:date=Mar 24 2010, 03:53 PM:name=Bacillus)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bacillus @ Mar 24 2010, 03:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1760994"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Meanwhile we are discussing extremely professionally run, profit seeking, huge companies here. In this case they have the funding and motive for unbiased research. CEOs of big companies are paid that much exactly because they are capable of doing decisions like this right. At least I'd like to believe they're not complete fools falling for the first biased statistic.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Hah. Well, I have nothing to say to that, it's all personal experience and opinion from here... Despite, maybe, that the world is not at all driven only by reason and logic. Ironically, I have no research to support me.
<!--quoteo(post=1760997:date=Mar 24 2010, 02:19 PM:name=Draco_2k)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Draco_2k @ Mar 24 2010, 02:19 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1760997"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->[...]the world is not at all driven only by reason and logic. Ironically, I have no research to support me.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Paradoxically, because you're willing to make that statement without any research to support it, it confirms itself.
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<!--quoteo(post=1760994:date=Mar 24 2010, 12:53 PM:name=Bacillus)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bacillus @ Mar 24 2010, 12:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1760994"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Meanwhile we are discussing extremely professionally run, profit seeking, huge companies here. In this case they have the funding and motive for unbiased research. CEOs of big companies are paid that much exactly because they are capable of doing decisions like this right. At least I'd like to believe they're not complete fools falling for the first biased statistic.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I used to work for DEC, or 'Digital' as they were know in their twilight years.
The company was pretty much THE entire computer industry and their CEO refused to get into the PC market with his famous line - "There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in his home".
Now the guy who said this, Ken Olson, was an exceptionally intelligent person who understood the market, as it had been up to that point, very well.
Anyway, although I'm sure your point has some general truth to it, never underestimate how deeply rooted a bad idea can be in the culture of an industry. It was newbies like Microsoft, Dell and Compaq that came out of nowhere with fresh perspectives to dominate the emerging PC industry. Even IBM, who owned the technology, were too conservative to really capitalise on the changing market conditions.
<!--quoteo(post=1761009:date=Mar 24 2010, 06:02 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lolfighter @ Mar 24 2010, 06:02 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1761009"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Paradoxically, because you're willing to make that statement without any research to support it, it confirms itself.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Brilliant.
<!--quoteo(post=1761019:date=Mar 24 2010, 06:57 PM:name=puzl)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (puzl @ Mar 24 2010, 06:57 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1761019"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Anyway, although I'm sure your point has some general truth to it, never underestimate how deeply rooted a bad idea can be in the culture of an industry. It was newbies like Microsoft, Dell and Compaq that came out of nowhere with fresh perspectives to dominate the emerging PC industry. Even IBM, who owned the technology, were too conservative to really capitalise on the changing market conditions.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> There we are. I doubt I have any experience comparable to yours here, but what I do have runs very much parallel to that.
It's not anything unexpected either, any institution will fight tooth and nail any bit of progress if it opposes the niche they operate in: a car manufacturer may dislike export policies or environmentalism, but the absolute dead last thing they would ever want is for people to even consider not using cars at all. That's simply a question of survival.
Reason would indeed suggest they just adapt, but in reality this means outright destroying existing structure to begin with. And that's not even taking into account the sheer mental inertia in any way.
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Well the stunts all use predefined angles which switch depending on your position so you get lots of camera angles as you move around, I don't think they use slowmo much though, although the PS3 version lets you record constantly so you can take it onto the PC and slow it down if you like.
No, it's in addition to it, the PS2 for example requires you to buy a license, but you're fairly free to develop what you like. Nintendo (at least they used to, don't know about now) also enforce strict guidelines as to content, as well as demanding a license fee.
You'd probably get a development kit which helps you to understand the architecture and some of the development consoles which will play anything, but you can't just go and make a game and get a publisher, you need a license too.
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So, like I said, you get something for the payment to the platform-owning company.
Oddly, EA is becoming the respectable one amongst game publishers. At least in terms of (DRM) fairness towards costumers, if not actual game quality. (Read: Spore)
It must be their Vancouver, Canada office! :D
40% better, not good. Which isn't saying much considering the scale of horror we're dealing with here.
It must be their Vancouver, Canada office! :D<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Don't care about that end. Look how they butchered Command and Conquer... Command and Conquer 4, is already in the $20 bin at WalMart lol... Fark EA.
<a href="http://www.tomshardware.com/news/drm-copy-protection-command-conquer-c-c,9925.html" target="_blank">http://www.tomshardware.com/news/drm-copy-...r-c-c,9925.html</a>
Chances are, they are calculating nothing. For what I gather, they simply trust people who are supposed to be experts on these things, who just so happen to work a DRM manufacturer.
Many things work like that in the world of business, actually.
Many things work like that in the world of business, actually.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It works like that on some cases yeah. Most of the time it's because the research has no business value though. For example not selling tobacco has far less profit in it that selling it.
Meanwhile we are discussing extremely professionally run, profit seeking, huge companies here. In this case they have the funding and motive for unbiased research. CEOs of big companies are paid that much exactly because they are capable of doing decisions like this right. At least I'd like to believe they're not complete fools falling for the first biased statistic.
Great point, yes.
<!--quoteo(post=1760994:date=Mar 24 2010, 03:53 PM:name=Bacillus)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bacillus @ Mar 24 2010, 03:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1760994"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Meanwhile we are discussing extremely professionally run, profit seeking, huge companies here. In this case they have the funding and motive for unbiased research. CEOs of big companies are paid that much exactly because they are capable of doing decisions like this right. At least I'd like to believe they're not complete fools falling for the first biased statistic.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hah. Well, I have nothing to say to that, it's all personal experience and opinion from here... Despite, maybe, that the world is not at all driven only by reason and logic. Ironically, I have no research to support me.
Paradoxically, because you're willing to make that statement without any research to support it, it confirms itself.
I used to work for DEC, or 'Digital' as they were know in their twilight years.
The company was pretty much THE entire computer industry and their CEO refused to get into the PC market with his famous line - "There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in his home".
Now the guy who said this, Ken Olson, was an exceptionally intelligent person who understood the market, as it had been up to that point, very well.
Anyway, although I'm sure your point has some general truth to it, never underestimate how deeply rooted a bad idea can be in the culture of an industry. It was newbies like Microsoft, Dell and Compaq that came out of nowhere with fresh perspectives to dominate the emerging PC industry. Even IBM, who owned the technology, were too conservative to really capitalise on the changing market conditions.
Brilliant.
<!--quoteo(post=1761019:date=Mar 24 2010, 06:57 PM:name=puzl)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (puzl @ Mar 24 2010, 06:57 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1761019"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Anyway, although I'm sure your point has some general truth to it, never underestimate how deeply rooted a bad idea can be in the culture of an industry. It was newbies like Microsoft, Dell and Compaq that came out of nowhere with fresh perspectives to dominate the emerging PC industry. Even IBM, who owned the technology, were too conservative to really capitalise on the changing market conditions.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There we are. I doubt I have any experience comparable to yours here, but what I do have runs very much parallel to that.
It's not anything unexpected either, any institution will fight tooth and nail any bit of progress if it opposes the niche they operate in: a car manufacturer may dislike export policies or environmentalism, but the absolute dead last thing they would ever want is for people to even consider not using cars at all. That's simply a question of survival.
Reason would indeed suggest they just adapt, but in reality this means outright destroying existing structure to begin with. And that's not even taking into account the sheer mental inertia in any way.