"watashi wa kira desu"

RoverRover blargh Join Date: 2003-09-23 Member: 21139Members
edited October 2007 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">dn related murder</div>So, some dude cut a guy up, left part of his body in the park and left two notes saying "WATASHI WA KIRA DESS" (desu misspelled) on the corpse. The translation for this would be "I'm Kira", Kira being the main character in the manga "death note".

<a href="http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-10-01/notes-left-near-bodies-in-belgium-linked-to-death-note" target="_blank">article</a>

<a href="http://www.demorgen.be/dm/nl/nieuws/belgie/603795?wt.bron=homeArt4" target="_blank">article in dutch for whoever else here understands it</a>

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    Keep saying it. Maybe it will make you Japanese.
  • NeonSpyderNeonSpyder &quot;Das est NTLDR?&quot; Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17913Members
    edited October 2007
    This is really easy guys. Tycho I'm disappointed that you didn't pick it up already and/or are just tired.

    Some psychotic dutch fellow is living out his manga-related homicidal fantasies, basing violent and grisly acts from a popular manga "Death Note", which I am assuming has something to do with murder(s) who leave notes on bodies, possibly bits of bodies?

    The link is obvious, if my suppositions are correct, and that this Death Note manga is themed as I imagine it to be.

    Kotoba mo nai wa...

    **edit

    Apparently the Death Note manga is slightly different then I had imagined, but after reading the article in question it's close enough.

    The correlation is there! Hra!
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    I think video games are actually to blame.
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1654245:date=Oct 5 2007, 12:47 PM:name=DiscoZombie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DiscoZombie @ Oct 5 2007, 12:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1654245"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think video games are actually to blame.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is just like that terribly violent game Mario Party.
  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
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  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    What was that crashing sound? Oh yeah, my opinion of you hitting rock bottom.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    There's too much fail in this thread and Belgium.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    edited October 2007
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    I marvel that this didn't happen in Japan first.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    If it happened in Japan it wouldn't be as bad, considering all things Girl A and their atrocious porn.

    Didn't something like this happen in China resulting in a ban of the Manga?
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    There's a creepy kid in my math class who reads manga.

    I mean <i>really</i> creepy.
  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    lol i saw desu and it was the first thing that popped in my head XD
  • cshank4cshank4 Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13425Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1654283:date=Oct 5 2007, 05:22 PM:name=pardzh)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pardzh @ Oct 5 2007, 05:22 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1654283"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->There's a creepy kid in my math class who reads manga.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yeah, yours and everyone elses.


    It's like zombie-ism.
  • torquetorque Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20035Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Kotoba mo nai wa...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    are you a girl?
  • NeonSpyderNeonSpyder &quot;Das est NTLDR?&quot; Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17913Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1654416:date=Oct 6 2007, 07:21 PM:name=Mercedes)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercedes @ Oct 6 2007, 07:21 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1654416"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->are you a girl?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Only when you dream about me.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    Was the corpsy guy a criminal of some sort? It's a pretty lose relation to DN if the killing wasn't vigilantism. Not that that justifies it, but I think it's a pretty big stretch to blame an anime in relation to a murder based on a scrawled note... It doesn't really seem to copycat something from the anime in ANY way aside from the note....
  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    Isn't that a pretty big copy cat?
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    I'd think so; I don't know Japanese but the note says "I'm Kira." While I guess it could mean "killer," wouldn't the note say something along the lines of "I am a killer." instead?
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1654448:date=Oct 7 2007, 01:27 AM:name=Liku)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Liku @ Oct 7 2007, 01:27 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1654448"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'd think so; I don't know Japanese but the note says "I'm Kira." While I guess it could mean "killer," wouldn't the note say something along the lines of "I am a killer." instead?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Since it's there was apparently a mispelling on the world "desu" to "dess" I'm assuming the note was written in romanji, since in any Japanese alphabet "dess" is impossible to write... Romanji isn't real Japanese, it's basically English character spelling of Japanese words, and isn't used by people who acctually know Japanese (as the written language is taught at the same time the phonetic language is).

    Also, the world "kira" doesn't literally translate to "killer" in Japanese. It's a phonetic slang translation popularized by the anime death note, outside of that context a person learning japanese would never be exposed to that kind of slang, in all likely hood the person wasn't really even learning real japanese, just citing hack shift knowledge probably garnished off of an anime fan site such as 4chan.

    Effectively, the note, due to the way it was written proves that it's referencing the anime... however, that's really the only consistency. In the Anime the killer does not leave notes, he primarily hides his identity, and it's established by word of mouth. In the anime the killer only kills criminals with the exception that he also kills people directly threatening his "just mission" (which is where my vigilante theory comes from), no one is ever dismembered during a killing in the anime, the majority of deaths are by far heart attacks. In the anime killings are preformed by writing a person's name in the "notebook of death", hence "deathnote". There is no consistency in terms of calling it a "copy cat killing" because it doesn't copy anything in the anime at all, aside from maby a reference to the character of the killer, which without knowing more, is a loose theory at best.
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <b><i>"There's only two things in this world I hate. People who are intolerant of other peoples culture, and the Dutch."</b></i>
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1654450:date=Oct 7 2007, 03:04 AM:name=Swiftspear)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Swiftspear @ Oct 7 2007, 03:04 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1654450"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Since it's there was apparently a mispelling on the world "desu" to "dess" I'm assuming the note was written in romanji, since in any Japanese alphabet "dess" is impossible to write... Romanji isn't real Japanese, it's basically English character spelling of Japanese words, and isn't used by people who acctually know Japanese (as the written language is taught at the same time the phonetic language is).

    Also, the world "kira" doesn't literally translate to "killer" in Japanese. It's a phonetic slang translation popularized by the anime death note, outside of that context a person learning japanese would never be exposed to that kind of slang, in all likely hood the person wasn't really even learning real japanese, just citing hack shift knowledge probably garnished off of an anime fan site such as 4chan.

    Effectively, the note, due to the way it was written proves that it's referencing the anime... however, that's really the only consistency. In the Anime the killer does not leave notes, he primarily hides his identity, and it's established by word of mouth. In the anime the killer only kills criminals with the exception that he also kills people directly threatening his "just mission" (which is where my vigilante theory comes from), no one is ever dismembered during a killing in the anime, the majority of deaths are by far heart attacks. In the anime killings are preformed by writing a person's name in the "notebook of death", hence "deathnote". There is no consistency in terms of calling it a "copy cat killing" because it doesn't copy anything in the anime at all, aside from maby a reference to the character of the killer, which without knowing more, is a loose theory at best.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    ... or he could just be crazy.
  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
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