If you can't act like an adult...
<a href="http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=528714" target="_blank">Don't play with adults.</a>
CCP has, apparently, put a lawsuit against Goonfleet and caused them to disband. Sad, I was planning to come back to EVE but all the corp-favouring dev immaturity has really put me off the game. First a dev giving BoB free BPOs, magically calling legitimate tactics (for BoB) exploits, and then letting BoB continue using them, some other bullish, and now this (unconfirmed) death blow for the only alliance that was putting BoB at risk for losing their grip on most of 0.0 space in EVE.
CCP has, apparently, put a lawsuit against Goonfleet and caused them to disband. Sad, I was planning to come back to EVE but all the corp-favouring dev immaturity has really put me off the game. First a dev giving BoB free BPOs, magically calling legitimate tactics (for BoB) exploits, and then letting BoB continue using them, some other bullish, and now this (unconfirmed) death blow for the only alliance that was putting BoB at risk for losing their grip on most of 0.0 space in EVE.
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I don't know Eve that well, but I assume it has such a clause. Why not just ban Goonfleet and Goonswarm if they're breaking the rules in the eyes of CCP?
As a result, Goonfleet has spent quite a lot of time clashing with CCP, BoB high-ups, and GM's. It's not pretty, and if this is true, it got extremely ugly. It's all confirmed, considering BoB flaunts it. They dare people to fight them or to try to deal with them. "You have to wait in queue to contact a GM. I just open MSN." Who knows what the lawsuit could be, honestly. Reportedly one guy is actually being charged and taken to court, but nobody from CCP has confirmed it. CCP is keeping their hands totally free of it so far, which is strange. It could be said that CCP is going after them for defamation or some such, but Goonfleet hasn't been THAT active in haraunging CCP over their obvious bull.
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They've charged me with several copyright infringements regarding eve related artwork and promotional videos that i have made over the last year and didn't ask CCP for permission.
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... I'm not quite ready to take all this at face value yet. It sounds just a little too, you know, "out there."
If anyone can elaborate more on what exactly has been going on here, that would be nice. I understand that there have been allegations of CCP/BoB fraternising, and that Goons have risen against it. I wonder how this is copyright infringement.
This crap about CCP (makers of EVE) and BoB (a corporation [guild] in the game) being best friends. It's all true and it's not fair. I demand to be givin free things of great scale and have instant MSN contact.
But man, CCP/BoB is just abusing their power. What we really need and this is going to sound childish, but we need some good hackers, break into the system or BoBs accounts and F everything up, really.
You know what. I'm going to log in, make a petition and ask for the MSNs of all the devs so I can get phat hookups.
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Also, yes BoB has ties with CCP. However, I get this feeling that many of the rumors of free BPOs and Ships given to BoB are just made up by their (numerous) enemies. BoB is practically public enemy #1, so people are likely to believe (WANT to believe) the worst possible things about them.
Really, consider what is more realistic. People spreading malicious rumors about a corp that many people don't like, or that there is some great conspiracy between CCP and BoB. Also, what's more possible: CCP sueing Goonfleet because of aforementioned conspiracy, or Goons just being Goons and messing with people.
Nobody said we believe it. CCP has been up to some dodgy ish, though. Even BoB themselves have talked about ish they get from their ties with CCP. Is it exaggerated? Maybe, but it's still something to consider.
Clearly CCP is at fault when they get accused of fixing their game in the media based on the LEGITIMATE ACTIONS OF THEIR GMs. Wait you mean they actually answer petitions? and fix things as asked? this is obviously blatant favoritism.
Clearly, the goons DOSing the forums on a holiday weekend, as well as doing their best to get every one to quit the game is obviously the most mature solution here. CCP is clearly at fault, particularly given that DOSing the forms also has the side effect of crashing the game server.
Honestly, If you hate the game and the company so freaking much quit.
Thanks.
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This also made me die laughing.
By a GM, who was told that he should be fired by Slashdot for doing his job.
If I was him I would have just started banning people. after all unrelated nerds are asking my company to fire me any way as a PR move.
The next question, Why do you care if you don't play the game? seriously?
Yes, that is an undated and unverifiable screen shot of an inappropriate gesture drawn in ascii art. in local chat.
By a GM, who was told that he should be fired by Slashdot for doing his job.
If I was him I would have just started banning people. after all unrelated nerds are asking my company to fire me any way as a PR move.
The next question, Why do you care if you don't play the game? seriously?
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I meant it was genuinely funny. Stop flipping out. It's unbecoming of you, dear. Besides, I don't care so much as it's interesting. The reason I still get news is that, even though I quit, I'm told I'm not the only person in the world.
Then the goon fleet seem to casually just muck the name of CCP and have engaged on a crusade across the internet to undermine the reputation of EVE. I am not the least bit surprised that legal action was taken.
I also find it highly ironic that the 'lol internet serious business' culture of sa is moaning so much about how serious a business eve actually is.
Anwyay, this will all blow over, and CCP might lose a few gamers who took it all too seriously to begin with, but I predict the game will continue to thrive.
I still plan on returning to EvE soon, but this is something I need to research more.
I stopped playing out of boredom a while ago.
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This also made me die laughing.
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Or do I simply not get the picture?
I played the game once, I found it too dull to continue. I played it again, with Goonfleet no less, and again found it too dull to continue. Seemed to be generally nice guys, we blew up some rocks and joked on teamspeak. I couldn't take that brand of obsessive gameplay though (takes time away from WoW) so I quit.
Why the company would be pursuing legal action over something seemingly totally unrelated in the middle of this messy situation, I can't fathom. They still hold all the cards, if they say 'we've investigated all these claims and found no problems' the majority of their player base (who could care less about most of this drama) will nod and go right on playing. Fortunately it has nothing to do with my hobbies, so I get to look on from the sidelines and throw popcorn.
I couldn't take that brand of obsessive gameplay though (takes time away from WoW) so I quit.
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That made me giggle.
<a href="http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/30/0412241" target="_blank">CCP Claims that the most recent scandle is actualy a smear campaign</a>
this might have some bearing on the lawsuits.
I don't buy anything the goon fleet say. The way they coordinated their spam attack over alleged developer cheating at the start of a long weekend just seem far too childish to be taken seriously. It seems like it was started to cause as much damage as possible rather than to actually engange in a rational debate on the issue.
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Then the goon fleet seem to casually just muck the name of CCP and have engaged on a crusade across the internet to undermine the reputation of EVE. I am not the least bit surprised that legal action was taken.</b>
I also find it highly ironic that the 'lol internet serious business' culture of sa is moaning so much about how serious a business eve actually is.
Anwyay, this will all blow over, and CCP might lose a few gamers who took it all too seriously to begin with, but I predict the game will continue to thrive.
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What? Where?
Too many people seem to consider true what people say about goonfleet, and not what goonfleet actually does. Seriously, they don't care all that much about this. If you go read the SA forums, it's mostly just about the war between them and BoB, not much to do with all the exploiting(which goes on with both sides).