<!--quoteo(post=1769651:date=May 4 2010, 12:25 PM:name=Align)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Align @ May 4 2010, 12:25 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1769651"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->For #2, what about when the series is all about dragons?
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Are these novels worth reading? I like the ideas of alternate realities, however because they do rely on the existing reality, it's incredibly hard to find convincing alternate reality novels.
I'd say definitely. Focus is on the main character(s), but the progress of the Napoleonic war is the progress of their story. Probably the biggest flaw is that history seems to have gone basically the same (but with dragons) in Europe up to that point.
<!--quoteo(post=1814893:date=Dec 10 2010, 07:04 PM:name=Align)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Align @ Dec 10 2010, 07:04 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1814893"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->What topics would that be?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Read it some time ago but it talks about nuclear power and weapons, alternative energy, global warming, terrorism and one or two other things I can't remember right now.
<!--quoteo(post=1834034:date=Feb 21 2011, 04:06 AM:name=Aldaris)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Aldaris @ Feb 21 2011, 04:06 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1834034"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So, Wise Man's Fear is out in 9 days. Anyone oddly excited?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> YES!
Although I have yet to order it. I have exams coming up soon and I think I'll re-read The Name of the Wind before Wise Man's Fear, so it'll propably be about two weeks from now before I can start reading.
<!--quoteo(post=1834065:date=Feb 21 2011, 01:20 AM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TychoCelchuuu @ Feb 21 2011, 01:20 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1834065"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yeah, I'd be more excited if I had any free time to read books. Still, I'm pretty pumped.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The curses of being busy....
I still have the Millennium trilogy boxset sitting in my room, waiting for some love.
I got and read the book a while ago, it is pretty good. Could try and be more subtle when it averts tropes though, being told "but oh no this wasn't like in the stories" once is plenty.
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edited February 2011
<!--quoteo(post=1834200:date=Feb 21 2011, 03:23 PM:name=DY357LX)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DY357LX @ Feb 21 2011, 03:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1834200"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Am currently reading this (only 100 pages or so in) on my iPad, scared to look at the other replies incase of spoilers.
But yeah, enjoying it! Thanks for the recommendation.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> 4 years late to the party... Though, honestly, a great time to join it considering the second one is starting next week.
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Am I really the only person on UWE who read the first one, and found Kvothe to be an obnoxious <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue" target="_blank">Mary Sue</a> from start to finish? He's positively nauseating how seamlessly proficient he is at everything. Top it off with how much action he gets, and he starts to sound a lot like author projection. Patrick Rothfuss is a good writer descriptively, it was pretty easy on the eyes and brain to go through, and it's better than most fantasy fiction, but that's not a ringing endorsement of the book, it's just that the majority of the competition are horrible.
EDIT: I actually laughed out loud at my own (forgotten) posts from 9 months ago on the previous page.
ShockehIf a packet drops on the web and nobody's near to see it...Join Date: 2002-11-19Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
Oh, well, if I'm pimping, <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crippled-God-Malazan-Book-Fallen/dp/0593046358" target="_blank">The Crippled God</a> came out yesterday, I'm 30 pages in and I'm delighted already. Pimp, pimpity pimp pimp. You could go buy the first one, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Gardens-Moon-Malazan-Book-Fallen/dp/0765322889" target="_blank">Gardens of the Moon</a>, right now. Pimp.
I'll stop hypocritically being off-topic now, shall I?
<!--quoteo(post=1834304:date=Feb 22 2011, 08:52 AM:name=Shockwave)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shockwave @ Feb 22 2011, 08:52 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1834304"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Am I really the only person on UWE who read the first one, and found Kvothe to be an obnoxious <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue" target="_blank">Mary Sue</a> from start to finish? He's positively nauseating how seamlessly proficient he is at everything. Top it off with how much action he gets, and he starts to sound a lot like author projection. Patrick Rothfuss is a good writer descriptively, it was pretty easy on the eyes and brain to go through, and it's better than most fantasy fiction, but that's not a ringing endorsement of the book, it's just that the majority of the competition are horrible.
EDIT: I actually laughed out loud at my own (forgotten) posts from 9 months ago on the previous page.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
heh, I think you mean Marty Sue.
Yeah, got a little of that, but there is at least some justification on some parts. Granted, the legions of girls flocking to him is a bit weird, and he insanely screws himself on several occasions. So, I mostly forgive him.
<!--quoteo(post=1834308:date=Feb 22 2011, 06:05 PM:name=Shockwave)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shockwave @ Feb 22 2011, 06:05 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1834308"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Oh, well, if I'm pimping, <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crippled-God-Malazan-Book-Fallen/dp/0593046358" target="_blank">The Crippled God</a> came out yesterday, I'm 30 pages in and I'm delighted already. Pimp, pimpity pimp pimp. You could go buy the first one, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Gardens-Moon-Malazan-Book-Fallen/dp/0765322889" target="_blank">Gardens of the Moon</a>, right now. Pimp.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I read it, but it was hard going. Not terribly interested in a sequel...
<!--quoteo(post=1834370:date=Feb 22 2011, 10:01 PM:name=spellman23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (spellman23 @ Feb 22 2011, 10:01 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1834370"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->heh, I think you mean Marty Sue.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I think you mean Gary Stu.
I didn't remember Kvothe getting action in the first book. Or are you talking about the second one?
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I thought everything was a struggle for him, and while he does have natural talent, he screws up as much as, if not more than, he succeeds. I also remember him spending most of the book pining over a girl who he never really gets. </span>
Of course it has been years so there may just be stuff I'm not remembering. But when it comes to protagonists that are "too good", Rothfuss has nothing on Orson Scott Card.
<!--quoteo(post=1834436:date=Feb 22 2011, 04:22 PM:name=Align)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Align @ Feb 22 2011, 04:22 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1834436"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just doing it right back at you.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
touche
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I didn't remember Kvothe getting action in the first book. Or are you talking about the second one?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> He's literally tripping over girls who want him in the first book. He's just too stupid to take advantage, or not interested, and the one he actually wants never gives in.
<!--quoteo(post=1834308:date=Feb 22 2011, 12:05 PM:name=Shockwave)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shockwave @ Feb 22 2011, 12:05 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1834308"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Oh, well, if I'm pimping, <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crippled-God-Malazan-Book-Fallen/dp/0593046358" target="_blank">The Crippled God</a> came out yesterday, I'm 30 pages in and I'm delighted already. Pimp, pimpity pimp pimp. You could go buy the first one, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Gardens-Moon-Malazan-Book-Fallen/dp/0765322889" target="_blank">Gardens of the Moon</a>, right now. Pimp.
I'll stop hypocritically being off-topic now, shall I?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I read <i>Gardens of the Moon</i>, then the second one, then I started the third one. They're okay but the writing's nothing special and the writer seems to love complexity for complexity's sake. They're fine books but they didn't blow me away and stun me with brilliance like <i>The Name of the Wind</i> did.
I wondered if I should get into any arguments about the merits of the book or not. The answer, as it turns out, is no. I tore through the book at breakneck speed; that should be enough to indicate that I liked it, potential faults aside. And I like to think that the greatest sins should be punished first. I'll consider apologizing for my taste in litterature when Twilight and Star Wars novel readers apologize for theirs.
On the risk of being off-topic: <a href="http://blog.patrickrothfuss.com/2011/02/an-open-letter-to-nathan-fillion" target="_blank">http://blog.patrickrothfuss.com/2011/02/an...-nathan-fillion</a>
Summary/TL;DR:
<!--quoteo(post=0:date=:name=Nathan Fillion)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nathan Fillion)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->“If I got $300 million from the California Lottery, the first thing I would do is buy the rights to Firefly, make it on my own, and distribute it on the Internet.â€<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--quoteo(post=0:date=:name=Patrick Rothfuss)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Patrick Rothfuss)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Here’s the deal. My second book is about to come out. My publisher tells me there’s a decent chance of us selling a truly ridiculous number of copies. If this happens, I will have more money than I’ll know what to do with.
Except that’s not exactly true. I know exactly what I’d like to do with that money. I’d like to help you buy the rights to Firefly back from Fox.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Are these novels worth reading? I like the ideas of alternate realities, however because they do rely on the existing reality, it's incredibly hard to find convincing alternate reality novels.
Probably the biggest flaw is that history seems to have gone basically the same (but with dragons) in Europe up to that point.
Read it some time ago but it talks about nuclear power and weapons, alternative energy, global warming, terrorism and one or two other things I can't remember right now.
YES!
Although I have yet to order it. I have exams coming up soon and I think I'll re-read The Name of the Wind before Wise Man's Fear, so it'll propably be about two weeks from now before I can start reading.
The curses of being busy....
I still have the Millennium trilogy boxset sitting in my room, waiting for some love.
But yeah, enjoying it! Thanks for the recommendation.
But yeah, enjoying it! Thanks for the recommendation.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
4 years late to the party... Though, honestly, a great time to join it considering the second one is starting next week.
EDIT: I actually laughed out loud at my own (forgotten) posts from 9 months ago on the previous page.
I'll stop hypocritically being off-topic now, shall I?
EDIT: I actually laughed out loud at my own (forgotten) posts from 9 months ago on the previous page.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
heh, I think you mean Marty Sue.
Yeah, got a little of that, but there is at least some justification on some parts. Granted, the legions of girls flocking to him is a bit weird, and he insanely screws himself on several occasions. So, I mostly forgive him.
I read it, but it was hard going. Not terribly interested in a sequel...
I think you mean Gary Stu.
NO. TVTROPES IS NEVER WRONG AND WE MUST ONLY USE THEIR TITLES.
<a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MartyStu" target="_blank">http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MartyStu</a>
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I thought everything was a struggle for him, and while he does have natural talent, he screws up as much as, if not more than, he succeeds. I also remember him spending most of the book pining over a girl who he never really gets. </span>
Of course it has been years so there may just be stuff I'm not remembering. But when it comes to protagonists that are "too good", Rothfuss has nothing on Orson Scott Card.
touche
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I didn't remember Kvothe getting action in the first book. Or are you talking about the second one?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He's literally tripping over girls who want him in the first book. He's just too stupid to take advantage, or not interested, and the one he actually wants never gives in.
I'll stop hypocritically being off-topic now, shall I?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I read <i>Gardens of the Moon</i>, then the second one, then I started the third one. They're okay but the writing's nothing special and the writer seems to love complexity for complexity's sake. They're fine books but they didn't blow me away and stun me with brilliance like <i>The Name of the Wind</i> did.
<a href="http://blog.patrickrothfuss.com/2011/02/an-open-letter-to-nathan-fillion" target="_blank">http://blog.patrickrothfuss.com/2011/02/an...-nathan-fillion</a>
Summary/TL;DR:
<!--quoteo(post=0:date=:name=Nathan Fillion)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nathan Fillion)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->“If I got $300 million from the California Lottery, the first thing I would do is buy the rights to Firefly, make it on my own, and distribute it on the Internet.â€<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=0:date=:name=Patrick Rothfuss)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Patrick Rothfuss)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Here’s the deal. My second book is about to come out. My publisher tells me there’s a decent chance of us selling a truly ridiculous number of copies. If this happens, I will have more money than I’ll know what to do with.
Except that’s not exactly true. I know exactly what I’d like to do with that money. I’d like to help you buy the rights to Firefly back from Fox.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
IF ONLY!