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Kittamaru · March 2007

<div class="IPBDescription">Goodies</div>[QUOTE=ARMORY TECH]
[QUOTE=BASIC ARMORY]
Basic Armory
Cost 5
Build 10 seconds
Health 1500 HP
Function Ammo distribution (all basic types), allow the dropping of welders and mines
Research Field Armory, Hand Grenades [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FIELD ARMORY]
Field Armory
Cost to upgrade 15
Upgrade time 25 seconds
Health 2500 HP
Function Ammo distribution (all basic types), allow the dropping of welders, mines, and shotguns
Function2 Distributes 25 health med kits to injured marines when used (medium cooldown on this)
Research Advanced Armory, Medical Armory, Supply Amory, Hand Grenades (if not already done) [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MEDICAL ARMORY]
Medical Armory

Cost to upgrade 10
Upgrade time 25 seconds
Health 5000 HP
Function Ammo distribution (all basic types)
Function2 Distributes 50 health med kits to injured marines when used (low cooldown on this)
Research None [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SUPPLY ARMORY]
Supply Armory
Cost to upgrade 30
Upgrade time 25 seconds
Health 7500 HP
Function Ammo distribution (all types, full clips instead of half clips)
Function2 Distributes Hand grenades to players (cooldown of 30 seconds, at one hand grenade per use, only carry one, and only if HG's have been researched)
Research Hand Grenades (if not already done) [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ADVANCED ARMORY]
Advanced Armory
Cost to upgrade 25
Upgrade time 90 seconds
Health 5000 HP
Function Ammo distribution (all types), allows dropping of SG, HMG, GL, Welder, and Mines
Function2 Distributes 50 health med kits to injured marines when used (high cooldown on this)
Research Hand Grenades (if not already done), Advanced Weapons Facility [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Advanced Weapons Facility- Mods]
[QUOTE=Experimental Weapons Research]
Pre Reqs Adv. Weapons Facility, Arms Lab, Prototype Lab, Adv Armory
Advanced Weapons Facility
Upgrade Time 120 seconds
Cost 30
Build Time 45 seconds
Health 7500
Function1 Provides experimental weapons research
Function2 Allows dropping of Experimental Armerment Facility
Research LMG, Pistol, SG, HMG, GL, Mine modifications
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[QUOTE=LMG Mods]
[QUOTE=SMG]
Sub Machine Gun
Research Cost 15
Research Time 30 seconds
Cost 10 res
RoF 3x LMG
Clip Size 75
Reserve 300
Damage 5 per bullet
Reload time same as LMG (2 seconds?)
Notes High rate of fire with good size clip. Large firing spread makes it hard to hit accurately, especially at long ranges. Close in, it is an excelent weapon for disposing of small to medium threats. More capable than the LMG up close. Only able to do 1/3rd damage to Fade and Onos due to small sized rounds. Light weight
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[QUOTE=Magnetic Impulse Rifle]
Magnetic Impulse Rifle
Research Cost 25
Research Time 30 seconds
Cost 10
RoF 2 per second
Clip Size 20
Reserve 100
Damage 5 per bullet, double vs armor
Reload time 3 seconds
Notes A very powerful weapon, this rifle is nearly silent. Using magnetic fields to hyper accelerate depleted uranium rounds to supersonic speeds, this rifle is easily able to penetrate most forms of armor with ease, including the hardened carapace of the Kharaa. The drawback is the ammunition used in this weapon is rather large, preventing a large clipsize. It's armor peircing abilities also cause it to do relatively weak damage to unarmored targets as it passes clean thru the target.
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[QUOTE=Shotgun Mods]
[QUOTE=Stoner]
Stoner
Research Cost 25
Research Time 30 seconds
Cost 15
RoF 1 every second
Clip Size 10
Reserve 40
Damage .5 per needle x 100 needles, 1/4 vs fade or onos (yes, 100... this IS source)
Reload time 12 seconds seconds (single round reload, plus chamber open / close)
Notes A very powerful variant of the standard shotgun, the Stoner fires, instead of a spread of pellets, a cloud of sharp needle like projectiles. They pierce and rend soft flesh with ease, however, against hardened targets, such as the fade or onos, the needles simply cannot pierce well. As a result, it does almost negligable damage.
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[QUOTE=SSJ]
Jackhammer SSJ Semi Auto Shotgun, Mark 2
Research Cost 40
Research Time 60 seconds
Cost 20
RoF 2 per second
Cylinder 20
Reserve 80
Damage 10 per pellet x 10 pellets, decreasing over range
Reload time 15 seconds
Notes During their years of fighting, the TSA realized that the standard Shotgun, though powerful, had a few serious drawbacks. Its rate of fire, while decent, was not sufficient when facing against more than 2 or 3 skulks. While searching for solutions, one researcher, who had a passion for ancient weapons, came across in his books an old era semi auto shotgun used by soldiers hundreds of years ago. Named the Jackhammer, it mated the power of a shotgun with the fire rate of an automatic rifle. As a result, the TSA decided to build upon the idea. The resulting gun was named the Jackhammer Mark 2. The result was impressive, though complex and rather heavy, but it easily shreaded any life form, with only a single drawback- it had a VERY long reload time.
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[QUOTE=Pistol mods]
[QUOTE=Flak Pistol]
Flak Pistol
Research Cost 10
Research Time 15 seconds
Cost 5
RoF 1 per second
Clip Size 5
Reserve 40
Damage 5 per piece x 5 pieces of flak, degrading over distance
Reload time 4 seconds
Notes Another weapon born of need, the Flak Pistol was designed and produced to aid in the defense of those marines weilding the powerful Grenade Launcher. The Flak Pistol is very much just a miniature shotgun, with a shorter range and a smaller clip size. It is also unable to do full damage over longer ranges, rending it relatively useless against anything but close in targets.
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[QUOTE=Compression Pistol]
Compression Pistol
Research Cost 50
Research Time 90 seconds
Cost 15
RoF 2 a second
Clip Size 10
Reserve 40
Damage 40 per shot
Reload time 5 seconds
Notes The TSA realized soon that, despite advances in technology, projectile weapons simply were not effective at penetrating the hard carapace of Kharaa such as the Fade or, to a much bigger problem, the Onos. Previous experimentation with energy based weapons had yielded... disaterous... results. The TSA finally accepted that a small measure of danger was acceptable, but could not produce a weapon able to meet their criteria. Luckily for them, a private research team had met with more success. They had managed to develope a working prototype that, in testing, impressed the TSA High Command enough that it diverted it's full attention to repdroducing it. Complex, Lightweight, and heavy hitting, this baby can punk a hole thru even the headplate of an onos, making it well worth it's cost.
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[QUOTE=Revolver]
.44 Magnum, Mk 7
Research Cost 15
Research Time 30 seconds
Cost 5
RoF same as pistol
Cylinder Size 6
Reserve 24 (or 8 3x quickloaders when researched)
Damage 20 per shot
Reload time 7 seconds (or 4 seconds with quickloaders)
Notes Yet another technology born of past years, the .44 Magnum, Mk 7, is the seventh remake of the old Mk 6. It packs quite a punch, but it is hindered by a rather long reload time due to it's chamber and cylinder load nature. This weapon makes a nice sidearm for those armed with the Shotgun or a Heavy Machine Gun
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I appologize for how it is organized- it was better when the old quote system was in place.

Can someone give me the new code for quotes so I can fix? THanks!

Buzzou · March 2007

dude, it would cost 110 res to get the armory fully upgraded!!!!!

i like your ideas on upgrading the pistol for GL carrying marines (except for the revolver), but the other ideas for shotguns etc didnt do much for me. i'm not sure if NS needs a railgun-like weapon...

maybe just have an option at the armory for different types of ammo for the shottie, a choice between standard pellets, or solid slugs for use against bigger aliens?

Kittamaru · March 2007

Nah, not 110 mate.

You can only make the armory into one of those options. This gives the marines a little more flexibility, yet limits them from simply having one adv armory and have the rest be basics that can give out that kind of ammo and health

Kassinger · March 2007

At the risk of stating the obvious; in Vanilla NS2, this would be <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scope_creep" target="_blank">Scope creep</a>.

Once NS2 is out with Lua scripting and the like, you can go lunatic with your own mods at your hearts pleasure. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" />

Expect two or three of us to prefer Vanilla, though.

Buzzou · March 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kittamaru @ Mar 19 2007, 02:35 PM) [snapback]1615579[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'>
Nah, not 110 mate.

You can only make the armory into one of those options. This gives the marines a little more flexibility, yet limits them from simply having one adv armory and have the rest be basics that can give out that kind of ammo and health
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yeah this just makes it more retarded. a basic armory is useless, and a field armory is pretty much the same as the normal armory we're currently used to, but it now costs 20res after the upgrade. no one would bother with a medical armory. i love the idea of the supply armory being able to resupply you with hand grens, but it would be useless ingame because it cannot drop shotguns, mines and welders.

i think some of your upgrade ideas for improving weapons are good, but the tech tree to get them sucks. for example, i'm guessing that the Magnetic Impulse Rifle could only be dropped near an Experimental Armerment Facility, like jetpacks near prototype labs. therefore the tech tree to get this gun would be:
basic armory --> field armory --> advanced armory --> advanced weapons facility --> Experimental Weapons Research --> Experimental Armerment Facility --> Magnetic Impulse Rifle.
this would cost 75 res just for the the basic armory + the upgrades. then there's the cost of the experemental armament facility on top of that.... why not just spam shotties instead?

N_3 · March 2007

i like the simplicity and effectiveness of a small armament the marines have at the moment. each weapon is very distinct and useful in various situation, there shouldn't be miscellaneous novelty guns. I also like the fact the weapons are named so plainly - we have the pistol, shotgun, grenade launcher and machine guns - no explanation required. same with the upgrades - weapon damage 1, 2, 3.

that's just my opinion though, and even then many of these ideas could still work just slightly different. ie a rof upgrade, silencer upgrade etc.

ayumbre · March 2007

nice ideas <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/asrifle.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::asrifle::" border="0" alt="asrifle.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/fade.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::fade::" border="0" alt="fade.gif" />

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