When V1 comes out well have to do a "tales from the trashcan" tread <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Scarface121+Oct. 20 2002,10:57--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Scarface121 @ Oct. 20 2002,10:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Carbon14+Oct. 20 2002,06:52--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Carbon14 @ Oct. 20 2002,06:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Not quite Jedi, there is a certain thing called Trojan. The software basically uses your computers power to do stuff for other people. This software ships with Kazaa, but not Kazaalite.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> u serious? whenever i run kazaa my computer always goes to crap and i cant play any games...maybe this is why, where can i get kazaa lite?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> *rolls eyes*
You people are getting Trojan programs and Spy-ware (or Ad-ware, depending on which side of the argument you agree with) mixed up. Kazaa runs no Trojans when it's running, but it does send information to Kazaa on what you are doing online when Kazaa is running, for marketing purposes. It's all in the End User Liscense Agreement you clicked "I Agree" to. Trojans are a whole other can of worms altogether, and usually malicious.
And yes, the PT team is incredibly loyal. And, most of the time, astoundingly mature. Of course, each PT client might have some signature on it, so if it does get copied, the team would know who leaked it...
-Ryan!
"Please know that I am aware of the hazards. I want to do it because I want to do it." -- Amelia Earhart
Big props to H'BNayr for spelling malicious right and for his excellent use of quotes. I would never have leaked the game, because that would only have hurt the developers and I like and respect the developers. I'm glad everyone else respects Flayra and Co. as well.
Now give me names and addresses of people not using their playtest spots so I can <b>beat them until they cry</b>.
...Ahem.
*The latter paragraph of this post was entirely in jest. The producers of this post do not condone beating people who are not taking advantage of something that other people would give all of their teeth and at least one internal organ to have, and would suggest that you not widely distribute a list of said inactive playtesters amongst the forumites, IRC users, gang members, jackbooted thugs etc.
FamDiaper-Wearing Dog On A BallJoin Date: 2002-02-17Member: 222Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
I am currently an inactive playtester. Theres one for you. However, this is beyond my control. I cannot play any games online, and even IRC is a struggle to get working.
If I leaked the game, then I'd have to play with all of you. Ugh. <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->
oh, and one thing about BFP and why it was leaked... damn Funimation, they told BFP dev team that they needed to stop or change everything, and thats when they made all new charcs... so somehow a leaked copy of BFP, near final, with all the DBZ charcs found its way onto the 'net
GrendelAll that is fear...Join Date: 2002-07-19Member: 970Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Playtester
<!--QuoteBegin--Freestyler+Oct. 20 2002,08:38--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Freestyler @ Oct. 20 2002,08:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->PLaytesters were very carefully choosen. Only people who had proved themselves to be respectable, turstworthy peopler both on the forums and IRC got PT status...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Pimping a Linux server helps too...
GrendelAll that is fear...Join Date: 2002-07-19Member: 970Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Playtester
<!--QuoteBegin--Haije+Oct. 20 2002,15:43--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Haije @ Oct. 20 2002,15:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Cyanide+Oct. 20 2002,14:46--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Cyanide @ Oct. 20 2002,14:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Heh, i still don't understand why people leak games, why do you WANT to play an unfinished product? There is no fun in that, at all.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> OH COME ON! How can you say that when there's a <b>THOUSAND POST THREAD</b> named <i>"Tales from the frontlines"</i> stickied on the front page in which you and all the other PT's write about how much fun you've had?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Oh yes...
As I recall, the build where the CC wouldn't reset was fun. 1 game per map then playing last man standing until the map changed unless Flayra or MonsE were about (generally busy doing other vital NS stuff). Yep. Lots of fun.
Or the build where Lerks were virtually indestructible. Yep. Being a marine was a real hoot. Die. Respawn. Die. Respawn.
Or perhaps the games when we changed the resource model at my behest and initially the resources were too slow. Yep. Having 20 playtesters cursing my existance was a REAL hoot.
Or...
Well, suffice to say that it's not all fun and frolics. Joining a server for 30 seconds, letting a debug run, dropping and reconnecting, then repeating for 2 or 3 hours isn't a laugh riot. We do these things so that when you chaps get NS for the first time, it will be unsullied joy. That's not to say that there isn't fun to be had, but there's actual work involved too. And it won't stop with release as a lot of the team will STILL be improving the game and adding to the experience after release.
To all the people who deserved a PT spot and didn't get one, all I can say is, thank you for your patience. You'll be rewarded VERY shortly. Think of it like meeting a beautiful woman who you never have to see without make-up. The playtesters have seen that woman drunk as a skunk at 2am, throwing up into the toilet.
I'll stop talking about dating now, before Fam starts to cry.
Necro<insert non-birthday-related title here>Join Date: 2002-08-09Member: 1118Members
<!--QuoteBegin--Fam+Oct. 21 2002,15:15--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Fam @ Oct. 21 2002,15:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->I am currently an inactive playtester. Theres one for you. However, this is beyond my control. I cannot play any games online, and even IRC is a struggle to get working.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> not a first! coil has been doncing and not pting!
keel them <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->
Fam: I know you can't playtest, I just have a not-entirely-serious grudge against anyone who just <b>isn't</b> playtesting, not people who can't playtest.
<!--QuoteBegin--Grendel+Oct. 22 2002,01:40--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Grendel @ Oct. 22 2002,01:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Having 20 playtesters cursing my existance was a REAL hoot.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> that happens EVERY playtest :P
even if the beta was leaked, they would probly close down the servers, and just to #### us off i bet theyed punish us by holdin the release off to like januray 15th my Birthday... i go whaaaa
yeah, it's really all about respect like the second poster guy/girl said (sorry i don't know anyone yet <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo--> just ignore me). If you respect the team you don't want to #### them off
InsaneAnomalyJoin Date: 2002-05-13Member: 605Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
<!--QuoteBegin--Troy Rage+Oct. 22 2002,15:47--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Troy Rage @ Oct. 22 2002,15:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->even if the beta was leaked, they would probly close down the servers, and just to #### us off i bet theyed punish us by holdin the release off to like januray 15th my Birthday... i go whaaaa<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Wha??
Uh... why would they punish <b>us</b> for something a <b>PT</b> did, especially when they could nab him/her for violating the NDA.
We did have one time where there was a small problem with a "tester" (long story), Flayra quickly quelled the problem though, and no one in the public noticed, speedier than us Forum Mods!
The other time, someone can running to us yelling that they found NS to download on BlueYonder. We dropped our game and came running to IRC to look. After some quick exchange, we finally got a link...to the NSTR2 <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
So yes, we don't give it out, cause we would lose our PT status, which would just suck!
Well, besides the fact that Flayra really did his homework in making the beta secure, and my sheer respect for the dev team keeps me from even thinking of leaking it, I think the fear of a former Marine calling me a n00b until I jump out a window overrides any benefit I would get for leaking the beta. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
coilAmateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance.Join Date: 2002-04-12Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
<!--QuoteBegin--RhoadsToNowhere+Oct. 22 2002,23:32--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (RhoadsToNowhere @ Oct. 22 2002,23:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->I think the fear of a former Marine calling me a n00b until I jump out a window overrides any benefit I would get for leaking the beta. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Dunno about you, but he does this to me anyway. q: <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
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u serious? whenever i run kazaa my computer always goes to crap and i cant play any games...maybe this is why, where can i get kazaa lite?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
*rolls eyes*
You people are getting Trojan programs and Spy-ware (or Ad-ware, depending on which side of the argument you agree with) mixed up. Kazaa runs no Trojans when it's running, but it does send information to Kazaa on what you are doing online when Kazaa is running, for marketing purposes. It's all in the End User Liscense Agreement you clicked "I Agree" to. Trojans are a whole other can of worms altogether, and usually malicious.
And yes, the PT team is incredibly loyal. And, most of the time, astoundingly mature. Of course, each PT client might have some signature on it, so if it does get copied, the team would know who leaked it...
-Ryan!
"Please know that I am aware of the hazards. I want to do it because I want to do it."
-- Amelia Earhart
Now give me names and addresses of people not using their playtest spots so I can <b>beat them until they cry</b>.
...Ahem.
*The latter paragraph of this post was entirely in jest. The producers of this post do not condone beating people who are not taking advantage of something that other people would give all of their teeth and at least one internal organ to have, and would suggest that you not widely distribute a list of said inactive playtesters amongst the forumites, IRC users, gang members, jackbooted thugs etc.
-PD
-PD
Pimping a Linux server helps too...
<!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->
OH COME ON! How can you say that when there's a <b>THOUSAND POST THREAD</b> named <i>"Tales from the frontlines"</i> stickied on the front page in which you and all the other PT's write about how much fun you've had?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oh yes...
As I recall, the build where the CC wouldn't reset was fun. 1 game per map then playing last man standing until the map changed unless Flayra or MonsE were about (generally busy doing other vital NS stuff). Yep. Lots of fun.
Or the build where Lerks were virtually indestructible. Yep. Being a marine was a real hoot. Die. Respawn. Die. Respawn.
Or perhaps the games when we changed the resource model at my behest and initially the resources were too slow. Yep. Having 20 playtesters cursing my existance was a REAL hoot.
Or...
Well, suffice to say that it's not all fun and frolics. Joining a server for 30 seconds, letting a debug run, dropping and reconnecting, then repeating for 2 or 3 hours isn't a laugh riot. We do these things so that when you chaps get NS for the first time, it will be unsullied joy. That's not to say that there isn't fun to be had, but there's actual work involved too. And it won't stop with release as a lot of the team will STILL be improving the game and adding to the experience after release.
To all the people who deserved a PT spot and didn't get one, all I can say is, thank you for your patience. You'll be rewarded VERY shortly. Think of it like meeting a beautiful woman who you never have to see without make-up. The playtesters have seen that woman drunk as a skunk at 2am, throwing up into the toilet.
I'll stop talking about dating now, before Fam starts to cry.
<!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
not a first! coil has been doncing and not pting!
keel them <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->
that happens EVERY playtest :P
<!--EDIT|DOOManiac|Oct. 22 2002,11:10-->
/curses Grendel
Hey! They're right!
that happens EVERY playtest <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Even the non-PT's do that! <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
Wha??
Uh... why would they punish <b>us</b> for something a <b>PT</b> did, especially when they could nab him/her for violating the NDA.
The other time, someone can running to us yelling that they found NS to download on BlueYonder. We dropped our game and came running to IRC to look. After some quick exchange, we finally got a link...to the NSTR2 <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
So yes, we don't give it out, cause we would lose our PT status, which would just suck!
Dunno about you, but he does this to me anyway. q: <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->