<!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo--> I hate people. What goes on in a person's mind that could possibly cause them to devalue the life of another so much that verbal insults justify taking it for them? Why do people always make life suck <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Life's a **** and then you die. Seemed he went in a painless way...death is phased out in my mind..many family deaths..along with friends. You tend to tune it out.
Needless to say, it always sucks, but at least he isn't on this hell anymore right? For something like that..I'd say he'd get life...if not...pay somebody in the jail to kill him. **** rape and then a tooth brush in the spine.
People..almost everybody are idiots/stupid/scum in some way or another.
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I just stumbled across this thread now but I hope you're alright and that levi's family can come to terms with the loss -.-
Sounds to me like your dean should take a little responsibility. After finding out the pupil in question had a psychosis that tended towards sudden outbursts of violent behaviour and that he'd already seriously harmed someone, he signed your friends life off by still allowing the kid to go to a public area without any kind of supervision. Mentally ill people aren't in full control of themselves usually and allowing someone with an unstable mind to go into a lunch hall without someone keeping an eye on them is like unleashing a rabid rottweiler in a crowded room.
I can't pretend I knew your friend, I can't pretend to know 'exactly how you feel' and I'm not religious but if you ever need an e-huggle and a friendly ear I'm always around, as are most of the boardy/IRC folk... it only saddens me we can't send you real hugs. They might solve anything but they're always one of the best ways of showing you're really there for someone.
You, those who knew him and his family have my sympathy and love =(
my love to the guys family.. and people like yourself. it hits everyone hard when somebody gets murdered its worse then a real death. i can relate..
if u do ever wanna talk to anyone well im open
but ok, i have to make one small comment. y ou are all judging this shube guy. saying throw the book at him.. and kick his ****. he has undiagnosed mental issues... im betting he feels the worst about this whole mess.
im not trying to make light of the situation.. and its not like this guy is gonna read the forum. but still. dont hate somebody for a mental problem.. would u laugh at a dyslexic for not being able to spell?
once again. my condolences to all yall who were invovled in the event
<!--QuoteBegin-Geminosity+Mar 2 2004, 06:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Mar 2 2004, 06:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sounds to me like your dean should take a little responsibility. After finding out the pupil in question had a psychosis that tended towards sudden outbursts of violent behaviour and that he'd already seriously harmed someone, he signed your friends life off by still allowing the kid to go to a public area without any kind of supervision. Mentally ill people aren't in full control of themselves usually and allowing someone with an unstable mind to go into a lunch hall without someone keeping an eye on them is like unleashing a rabid rottweiler in a crowded room. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I find it more disturbing that he was allowed to have a knife on him than being allowed in a public area, if he was mentally unstable he could have done as much damage to himself as to anyone else.
He will probably go to a mental institute, not a prison, which is the best place for him from the sound of it.
I'm lucky enough to have never lost anyone close to me, so while I can't claim to understand what you must be going through, you have my condolences.
Thanks guys. I guess it really hasnt sunk in yet for me. Levi was my best friend at MUM (My University) We hung out together all the time, talked philosophy, played LAN games, watched Anime, even read a couple movie scripts that a friend of ours wrote. He was a great guy, devious, mischevious, and always willing to talk about the apocalypse. Now he is the innocent victim of another man's psychosis.
Well, somone asked about the knife, It was a kitchen knife, and Schube could have gotten it from anywhere. It looked like this. <img src='http://pieceofsite.seniorbrown.com/files/forums/Knife.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> I guess its time for the gory details. It seems Levi was stabbed twice, Im not sure of the locational details on the first strike, I personally think it was around the collarbone area, and didnt penetrate very well. Others say It was in the back, or in the shoulder. Wherever it hit, It seemed to hit bone, and chip the tip off the knife. The second strike went right to the solarplexus, right at the base of the ribcage. When I first saw, I thought he spilled something on his shirt. Later it sunk in that that was blood. He turned purple, and passed out. He never woke up.
Im hoping if I keep talking about it, maybe it will sink in.
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With my limited medical knowledge, it sounds like the knife either pierced the diaphragm or a lung, which is why he turned purple and passed out. With only 1 lung completely inflated, the human body pushes itself and so it does the next best thing, shut itself down to limit the amount of damage.
The first knife strike (from what you have said) was probably in the back, up towards the scapula (shoulder blade). As the scapula are pretty strong, they could take a knife blow and deflect it. If it wasn't in the back, the next best guess is a shoulder.
Wow. I'm really sorry to read about this, my best wishes to you and his family. Nothing else I can say will make a difference right now, so I won't bother you.
I have had the fortune of not losing anybody close to me, but I can still imagine how it feels. Just reading this makes me really sad. You have my deepest condolences.
It's always a tragedy when such a young person dies for no reason like this.
Take heart in the fact that you and your friends can make it through the troubled times ahead together. If anything, this will make you a stronger person in the end despite how it feels presently. Don't try to deny the feelings of hurt and anger, they're just part of the healing process.
I want to say try not to unnecessarily condemn Schube for his unwarranted behavior, but that is a decison that you have to make. If anything try to understand what his mental condition is.
Zig...I am Captain Planet!Join Date: 2002-10-23Member: 1576Members
****.
man, i'm so sorry.. that's just horrible. like discozombie said, life is so fleeting..
sigh.
just a little advice, if i may..
grieve, but don't depress yourself. i cried when i read your post, and.. i'm not you. if you ever let it sink in, just know that all of us are behind you in spirit. don't stop walking your path.
I won't say I know how you feel, because I can't imagine the torrent of emotions you must be feeling right now. I hope you all get over your loss, and I hope that **** rots in jail.
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Needless to say, it always sucks, but at least he isn't on this hell anymore right?
For something like that..I'd say he'd get life...if not...pay somebody in the jail to kill him. **** rape and then a tooth brush in the spine.
People..almost everybody are idiots/stupid/scum in some way or another.
Best wishes to you and the family of your friend.
Death is too merciful a punishment for such an ***hole.
Think not disdainfully of death, but look on it with favor; for even death is one of the things that Nature wills.
Marcus Aurelius Antoninus (121 AD - 180 AD), Meditations
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Sounds to me like your dean should take a little responsibility. After finding out the pupil in question had a psychosis that tended towards sudden outbursts of violent behaviour and that he'd already seriously harmed someone, he signed your friends life off by still allowing the kid to go to a public area without any kind of supervision.
Mentally ill people aren't in full control of themselves usually and allowing someone with an unstable mind to go into a lunch hall without someone keeping an eye on them is like unleashing a rabid rottweiler in a crowded room.
I can't pretend I knew your friend, I can't pretend to know 'exactly how you feel' and I'm not religious but if you ever need an e-huggle and a friendly ear I'm always around, as are most of the boardy/IRC folk... it only saddens me we can't send you real hugs. They might solve anything but they're always one of the best ways of showing you're really there for someone.
You, those who knew him and his family have my sympathy and love =(
if u do ever wanna talk to anyone well im open
but ok, i have to make one small comment. y ou are all judging this shube guy. saying throw the book at him.. and kick his ****. he has undiagnosed mental issues...
im betting he feels the worst about this whole mess.
im not trying to make light of the situation.. and its not like this guy is gonna read the forum. but still. dont hate somebody for a mental problem.. would u laugh at a dyslexic for not being able to spell?
once again. my condolences to all yall who were invovled in the event
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I find it more disturbing that he was allowed to have a knife on him than being allowed in a public area, if he was mentally unstable he could have done as much damage to himself as to anyone else.
He will probably go to a mental institute, not a prison, which is the best place for him from the sound of it.
I'm lucky enough to have never lost anyone close to me, so while I can't claim to understand what you must be going through, you have my condolences.
I guess it really hasnt sunk in yet for me.
Levi was my best friend at MUM (My University)
We hung out together all the time, talked philosophy, played LAN games, watched Anime, even read a couple movie scripts that a friend of ours wrote.
He was a great guy, devious, mischevious, and always willing to talk about the apocalypse.
Now he is the innocent victim of another man's psychosis.
Well, somone asked about the knife, It was a kitchen knife, and Schube could have gotten it from anywhere. It looked like this.
<img src='http://pieceofsite.seniorbrown.com/files/forums/Knife.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
I guess its time for the gory details.
It seems Levi was stabbed twice, Im not sure of the locational details on the first strike, I personally think it was around the collarbone area, and didnt penetrate very well. Others say It was in the back, or in the shoulder. Wherever it hit, It seemed to hit bone, and chip the tip off the knife. The second strike went right to the solarplexus, right at the base of the ribcage. When I first saw, I thought he spilled something on his shirt. Later it sunk in that that was blood. He turned purple, and passed out. He never woke up.
Im hoping if I keep talking about it, maybe it will sink in.
life is so fleeting...
all i can do is say you can take time off from the clan
Hang in there, buddy. I'd like to think your friend has gone to a place free from such psychotic fools.
The first knife strike (from what you have said) was probably in the back, up towards the scapula (shoulder blade). As the scapula are pretty strong, they could take a knife blow and deflect it. If it wasn't in the back, the next best guess is a shoulder.
Nothing else I can say will make a difference right now, so I won't bother you.
I have had the fortune of not losing anybody close to me, but I can still imagine how it feels. Just reading this makes me really sad.
You have my deepest condolences.
And the guy who did it, he had psychological problems making him violent, but they let him loose in a public place?
Talk to someone in your family if you haven't already...
Take heart in the fact that you and your friends can make it through the troubled times ahead together. If anything, this will make you a stronger person in the end despite how it feels presently. Don't try to deny the feelings of hurt and anger, they're just part of the healing process.
I want to say try not to unnecessarily condemn Schube for his unwarranted behavior, but that is a decison that you have to make. If anything try to understand what his mental condition is.
You and your friend will be in my prayers.
man, i'm so sorry.. that's just horrible. like discozombie said, life is so fleeting..
sigh.
just a little advice, if i may..
grieve, but don't depress yourself. i cried when i read your post, and.. i'm not you. if you ever let it sink in, just know that all of us are behind you in spirit. don't stop walking your path.