Ogre Head.

xKORExslimxKORExslim Join Date: 2003-01-11 Member: 12182Members Posts: 283
in NS Customization
Yes, it's an ogre.
83584 polys. Anyone think it'll crash HL if I put it in?
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  • GolathGolath Join Date: 2003-05-20 Member: 16532Members Posts: 393
    It's nice, but i think this would be better off in artwork. Oh and i don't think it looks scary enough, looks too friendly, like a peon from WC3.
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    what the heck is a nanite? A terminte? Spel check buddy!
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  • xKORExslimxKORExslim Join Date: 2003-01-11 Member: 12182Members Posts: 283
    Fixed
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  • GlissGliss Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14800Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester Posts: 5,161 Fully active user
    Can't all those grooves be included with a skin?
    Q: Is your goal to make everything picked the same amount of times? (from j.walsh)
    A: I don't think about it that way exactly. Sure it's good if there is a nice distribution and that is something to work towards, but really the goal in DotA's development is, first and foremost, to make the gameplay quality the best it can be. It is the combination of all the heroes, items and mechanics together that makes DotA what it is and not the individual elements alone. Sometimes that means certain things are carefully adjusted to be more frequent than others, sometimes it doesn't, but ultimately the main judge of a game's quality is not in some artificial balance metric, but in the overall gameplay quality and depth that it has.
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  • GolathGolath Join Date: 2003-05-20 Member: 16532Members Posts: 393
    Yes! That's better 10/10.
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    (ANTI-FEDERALIST @ Jul 16 2004, 11:25 PM)
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    what the heck is a nanite? A terminte? Spel check buddy!
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  • xKORExslimxKORExslim Join Date: 2003-01-11 Member: 12182Members Posts: 283
    Hmm, not when it's production quality models.
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  • GlissGliss Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14800Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester Posts: 5,161 Fully active user
    QUOTE (-=KORE=-Slim @ Feb 22 2004, 12:11 AM)
    Hmm, not when it's production quality models.

    Ah, I see.

    I would just use the head for a Marine model, it's so pwn tounge.gif
    Q: Is your goal to make everything picked the same amount of times? (from j.walsh)
    A: I don't think about it that way exactly. Sure it's good if there is a nice distribution and that is something to work towards, but really the goal in DotA's development is, first and foremost, to make the gameplay quality the best it can be. It is the combination of all the heroes, items and mechanics together that makes DotA what it is and not the individual elements alone. Sometimes that means certain things are carefully adjusted to be more frequent than others, sometimes it doesn't, but ultimately the main judge of a game's quality is not in some artificial balance metric, but in the overall gameplay quality and depth that it has.
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  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester Posts: 4,759
    QUOTE (-=KORE=-Slim @ Feb 22 2004, 03:11 AM)
    Hmm, not when it's production quality models.

    83,000 poly is NOT production quality... 12-20K yes...

    could you effin imagine the render time on that one?
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  • xKORExslimxKORExslim Join Date: 2003-01-11 Member: 12182Members Posts: 283
    The Ogres from LOTR were about 10 million polys using maya...

    There is no limit in production quality models.
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  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester Posts: 4,759
    QUOTE (-=KORE=-Slim @ Feb 22 2004, 03:23 AM)
    The Ogres from LOTR were about 10 million polys using maya...

    There is no limit in production quality models.

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    According to Letteri, Jackson decided for Return of the King that he wanted the orcs to be stronger and more regimented, as opposed to the rag-tag orcs of The Two Towers. “We had a redesign of the orc characters with new costumes, new styles of movement and fighting. This was important for the Massive characters that we created because each of the characters has their unique way of walking, attacking, fighting styles and essentially their own culture. So we had to develop that for the orc army and then come up with a way to make 200,000 of them. We implemented a level of detail scheme in order to do that.”
    (*)

    now, lets see... 10,000,000 x 200,000 = 2,000,000,000,000 poly....

    render time on MY machine = 13 years.*
    Render Farm CPU use Time = 4 months (aprox)(**)
    Render Farm CPU use COST = $140,000 (aprox)(**)


    now, you tell me that you work for some place that can afford that cash, time, or poly... then i might think your not a complete shut-in. But as for your model, it's nice and all, but a complete waste of poly for the effect you've got.

    Go take a look over at cgtalk.com's forums for acurate crit/comments... for ns, it's artwork if it's oger 4,000 poly.


    (*) The VFX of the Return of the King

    (**) cost and time aproxemates based off of a friends company.
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  • xKORExslimxKORExslim Join Date: 2003-01-11 Member: 12182Members Posts: 283
    Added a few wrinkles. Made the model a little less smooth.
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  • xKORExslimxKORExslim Join Date: 2003-01-11 Member: 12182Members Posts: 283
    And btw, you mistook orc for ogre.

    Ogres are the gigantic bat wealding creatures that dwell the caves and attacked the adventurers in the first movie. They make a return in ROTK as slaves to the orcish army.
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  • MalambisBZMalambisBZ Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9559Members Posts: 495
    Way too many polies for so little detail.
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  • CoolCookieCooksCoolCookieCooks Pretty Girl Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16446Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation Posts: 5,602
    i presume all the polys went into the eyes
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    eupt // www.christian-cook.co.uk - online portfolio // my steamid
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  • statusqstatusq Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12142Members Posts: 160
    Meshsmooth, anyone? tounge.gif
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  • g0opyg0opy Join Date: 2003-11-02 Member: 22233Members, Constellation Posts: 605
    What is an ogre? confused.gif
    *IMAGE BALEETED.* Sigs are not to exceed 400x75 or 22KB. No exceptions. -Talesin
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  • StarchyStarchy Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15727Members, Constellation Posts: 1,296 Fully active user
    QUOTE (g0opy @ Feb 22 2004, 06:22 AM)
    What is an ogre? confused.gif

    Good question...
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  • DillinjaDillinja Join Date: 2003-09-04 Member: 20563Members Posts: 1,187
    AN ogre is a huge human like creature wich lifes in the mountains(mainly)


    ob topic you nee more rough edges the mouth nose and eyes look like they are just pressed into the head not that they are actual holes in the head

    but good start
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  • NzNexusNzNexus Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26605Banned Posts: 1,082
    smile.gif sweet work

    I'ts like from Doom3..hell
    Well im ALLWAYS nexus.
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  • GolathGolath Join Date: 2003-05-20 Member: 16532Members Posts: 393
    edited February 2004
    QUOTE (-=KORE=-Slim @ Feb 22 2004, 03:45 AM)
    And btw, you mistook orc for ogre.

    Ogres are the gigantic bat wealding creatures that dwell the caves and attacked the adventurers in the first movie. They make a return in ROTK as slaves to the orcish army.

    Actually i think you are talking about cave trolls tounge.gif

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    (ANTI-FEDERALIST @ Jul 16 2004, 11:25 PM)
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    what the heck is a nanite? A terminte? Spel check buddy!
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  • g0opyg0opy Join Date: 2003-11-02 Member: 22233Members, Constellation Posts: 605
    Oh its one of those big things in lotr. The model looks a little like homer simpson =P.
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  • blue2kblue2k Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4025Members Posts: 473
    that looks like a 500 poly head, where are you hiding the rest of those polys? smile.gif

    seriously though hl wouldnt crash if you put that in it but if you added a body with approximately the same amount of detail youd probably have a 150,000 poly model and that would probably cause hl to crash. how did you create the folds on the skin? edge tesselation?
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  • Mr_JeburtOMr_JeburtO Join Date: 2003-08-29 Member: 20340Members Posts: 1,695
    QUOTE (-=KORE=-Slim @ Feb 22 2004, 03:45 AM)
    And btw, you mistook orc for ogre.

    Ogres are the gigantic bat wealding creatures that dwell the caves and attacked the adventurers in the first movie. They make a return in ROTK as slaves to the orcish army.

    there trolls maye not ogres. ogres are like big humanoids wjere as trolls are there own species
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  • DillinjaDillinja Join Date: 2003-09-04 Member: 20563Members Posts: 1,187
    QUOTE (MR.JEBURTO @ Feb 22 2004, 08:37 AM)
    QUOTE (-=KORE=-Slim @ Feb 22 2004, 03:45 AM)
    And btw, you mistook orc for ogre.

    Ogres are the gigantic bat wealding creatures that dwell the caves and attacked the adventurers in the first movie. They make a return in ROTK as slaves to the orcish army.

    there trolls maye not ogres. ogres are like big humanoids wjere as trolls are there own species

    right

    this is an ogre

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  • AcrylicFUAcrylicFU Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23520Members Posts: 14
    What a sexy beast biggrin.gif
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  • Mr_JeburtOMr_JeburtO Join Date: 2003-08-29 Member: 20340Members Posts: 1,695
    QUOTE (Acrylic{FU} @ Feb 22 2004, 10:45 AM)
    What a sexy beast biggrin.gif

    ive dated worse tounge.gif
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  • xKORExslimxKORExslim Join Date: 2003-01-11 Member: 12182Members Posts: 283
    Heh. Not many polys are in the eyes since the eyes are nurbs. tounge.gif
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  • onos_turdonos_turd Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19360Members Posts: 262
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  • g0opyg0opy Join Date: 2003-11-02 Member: 22233Members, Constellation Posts: 605
    Did you post a pic of yourself onos_turd? Oh, w8 thats shrek wink.gif
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  • CrapfaceCrapface Join Date: 2003-12-17 Member: 24496Members Posts: 101
    how many polies in the shrek model...... i have a headache.
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  • CheeseCheese Lork on the Clorf Join Date: 2003-12-15 Member: 24396Members, Constellation Posts: 931
    hmm perhaps i missed this one but what do you want to replace with the ogre skin? the marines? would be kind of cool to have another lifeform fighting for their life beside the khaara and the humans. please don´t missunderstand that. I DONT WANT A THIRD LIFEFORM IN NS. but it would be kind of funny to replace the marine skins with orcs or something like that.
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