Tournament Idea

MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
edited February 2004 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">My random ramblings</div> Okay, this would probably only work for large tournaments spanning a couple days, but here it goes:


Essientally, its a battle for a star system. All the maps depict a certain part of the system, the first map being the middle planet (or outpost), the last being either the closest or the farthest from the star. However, it wouldn't be a straight play-through. I will explain through example.

Assume the star system has 6 planets, planet 1 being the closest to the star.

You play a map set on planet 3.

Marines win.


You play a map set on planet 4

Aliens win.

You play the map that was set on planet 3 again.



Essientally, its a push for control of the star system. Which actually makes sense:

Kharra start a tiny "colony" in the fringes of the system. The Marines, taking notice, go to eliminate them. They attack the Kharra, and either start to push them out of the system, or they lose, and the Kharra continue inward.




It could work for a major tournament in a LAN center, with a big chart on the wall showing who is forcing who where.

Comments

  • Crono5Crono5 Join Date: 2003-07-22 Member: 18357Members
    That sounds pretty cool, and kinda mmorpg-like, which is also cool. NS mmorpg == teh win.
  • SnoopBobSnoopBob Join Date: 2003-07-21 Member: 18331Members
    edited February 2004
    kinda like battleforthegalaxy
    (<a href='http://www.battleforthegalaxy.com' target='_blank'>-link-</a>)
    edit forgot link
  • crono1crono1 Join Date: 2004-01-20 Member: 25497Members, Constellation
    Raaah! Reminds me of the days of me playing MPBt! Man that rocked! House Marik for the win! :>
  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-SnoopBob+Feb 9 2004, 03:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SnoopBob @ Feb 9 2004, 03:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> kinda like battleforthegalaxy
    (<a href='http://www.battleforthegalaxy.com' target='_blank'>-link-</a>)
    edit forgot link <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Battle for the galaxe or whatever regy is bugged!
  • KayomaniKayomani Join Date: 2003-05-17 Member: 16399Members, Constellation
    You have to pay to enter battle for the galaxy.... Whos gunna want to do that :|
  • RueRue Join Date: 2002-10-21 Member: 1564Members
    Yeh same as the DoD league Battle for Europe. as kayo said the NS version costs u to play and the DoD one if free so unless u want to pay for games that will end up like public server games i would give this a miss.

    the idea is good and if it was free is would be great fun.
  • KaliasKalias Superskulk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2560Members
    I remember the old days of Total Annihilation, they had an entire galaxy of planets with battles going on constantly each side pushing the enemy back towards the others home world, it was really quite an excellent system, it's just a shame we're on the wrong engine and can't build in that sort of thing.
  • weggyweggy Join Date: 2003-06-04 Member: 16998Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-crono^+Feb 9 2004, 06:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (crono^ @ Feb 9 2004, 06:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Raaah! Reminds me of the days of me playing MPBt! Man that rocked! House Marik for the win! :> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Marik fool! I will enjoy reducing your mech to a smoldering hulk for the victory of Liao! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • wascally_wabbitwascally_wabbit Join Date: 2003-09-09 Member: 20701Members
    From the www.natural-selection.org news page.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->In other news, this weekend marks the opening weekend for the first beta Battle For the Galaxy tournament! This is some cool stuff:

    Battle for the Galaxy is a tournament for the Natural Selection mod taken to an Epic Level. Instead of fighting independently or with a small clan-sized group, participants enlist in a massive force of Marines or Aliens composed of hundreds of players. Each player enlisted only fights on one side (alien or marine) called a "force" for the duration of the campaign, so the destiny of every player in that force rests not only on their own skill, but on the teamwork and commitment of their teammates. Individual battles take place over 12 hour marathon clashes, across multiple servers, during which hundreds of combatants enter the fray and struggle alongside their comrades for as long as they choose. When the battle is over and the smoke clears, the results from all the servers are compiled and the victors secure the region the battle represents.

    The tournament incorporates a realistic command structure with Commanding Officers and Alien Leaders. By demonstrating your skill and ability to assist in a team effort, you raise yourself above your peers and become a candidate for being promoted to a leadership position: setting the stage for your climb into the ranks of the upper echelons.

    Get yourself registered for this free tournament at:

    <a href='http://www.battleforthegalaxy.com/register/' target='_blank'>http://www.battleforthegalaxy.com/register/</a><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->



    Note the part where it says Get yourself registered for this <b><i>free</b></i> tournament
  • KaliasKalias Superskulk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2560Members
    edited February 2004
    Note the information in the 'About' section of the actual tournament website:

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->After registering you will have a couple of weeks to get to know the community and have a chance to see how the tournament works. Then, if you want to continue to participate, you will need to pay the enrollment fee (or find a sponsor willing to pay it for you) which will permit you to continue to participate through the end of the campaign.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • TekdudeTekdude Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15455Members, Constellation, Forum staff
    Sounds like a FireArms Push map, but more complicated. Sounds good.
  • KaliasKalias Superskulk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2560Members
    It's basically normal ns, only they track the wins and use it to hack together a random 'galactic map' image that goes on the website and nowhere else.
  • SlayerOfSkulksSlayerOfSkulks Join Date: 2003-06-23 Member: 17634Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Kalias+Feb 9 2004, 08:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kalias @ Feb 9 2004, 08:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->It's basically normal ns, only they track the wins and use it to hack together a random 'galactic map' image that goes on the website and nowhere else.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, sure. And CAL is just pubs except with a smaller player base. And NS is just TFC except the classes look different and have different abilities. And Half Life is just like Doom except you can look up and down. And Jak & Daxter 2 is just Super Mario Bros with walking in/out of the screen. And <insert thing 1 here> is just <insert thing 2 here> with <insert small-sounding change which while strictly true doesn't say half of what's the actual case and makes the whole thing sound far less different than it actually is>.

    I mean, what exactly were you expecting? Flamethrowers? A third race? Vehicles? Of *course* it's just regular NS with stats tracking used in an interesting way. There isn't really much more anyone could do to make for an interesting open-to-public thing. At least they have some nifty custom maps. (Although the marines on so far have decided we hate ns_rampage with a vengence, even if it is pretty well-made.)
  • KaliasKalias Superskulk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2560Members
    edited February 2004
    -edit- possibly inflammatory, rewriting

    I was addressing Tekdude who seemed to think the maps in the tournament would be of a different style to anything before (matching the assault modes of other mods), as for the tournament, fine, it has a different way of displaying stats for the games, it's still not particularly interesting or original, nor do the stats particularly mean anything except that the balance of the game is off towards <insert team>.
  • TekdudeTekdude Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15455Members, Constellation, Forum staff
    When did I say it was a new style...? I just alluded to a FireArms Push map... It is basically the same thing. I believe DoD has that type of map as well.
  • BizZy_9mm_MessiahBizZy_9mm_Messiah Old School Member Join Date: 2003-07-25 Member: 18411Members, Constellation
    That's why this "FREE" version of Battle for the Galaxy is a good idea. I woulda joined the other one if I didn't have to pay a fee.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    didn't we already talk about a NS style mmorpg thing when whoever posted the HL2 mod project with a bike resembling Kaneda's Bike (from Akira)?

    Maybe it was just me imagining things, or we were talking about a whole universe where you can go battle from planet to planet and go in comand and ask to be phased on a certain map and such <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    Now THAT would be amazingly amazing if it turns out well <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • KaliasKalias Superskulk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2560Members
    I believe Flayra may have touched on that in an interview a while back regarding NS 2.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    edited February 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cereal_KillR+Feb 9 2004, 04:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Feb 9 2004, 04:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> didn't we already talk about a NS style mmorpg thing when whoever posted the HL2 mod project with a bike resembling Kaneda's Bike (from Akira)?

    Maybe it was just me imagining things, or we were talking about a whole universe where you can go battle from planet to planet and go in comand and ask to be phased on a certain map and such <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    Now THAT would be amazingly amazing if it turns out well <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Woah, simulated reality... Too matrix-ish for me, I might start actually feeling the pain as well. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> Honestly though, NS on that sort of scale would be very addictive...

    Oh and The BftG thing is currently a free beta, with the real one coming soon after. The <i>real</i> one is the one ya have to pay for. Even if it is only stat tracking, you really can't take it much further than that thanks to the HL Engine, and the/a same/similar player restriction will probably reappear in future Valve games methinks...
  • SlayerOfSkulksSlayerOfSkulks Join Date: 2003-06-23 Member: 17634Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Kalias+Feb 9 2004, 09:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kalias @ Feb 9 2004, 09:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> -edit- possibly inflammatory, rewriting

    I was addressing Tekdude who seemed to think the maps in the tournament would be of a different style to anything before (matching the assault modes of other mods), as for the tournament, fine, it has a different way of displaying stats for the games, it's still not particularly interesting or original, nor do the stats particularly mean anything except that the balance of the game is off towards <insert team>. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It tracks a lot more than just that... individual player rankings, specialisation toward certain weapons, kill/death ratios... Nothing special, admittedly, but still far more post-game feedback than you'd normally get in a pub.

    The maps, for the record, are all custom ones, which is a blessing or a curse depending on how you look at it.

    If you just treat it as a fun little diversion from the usual NS scene, it's all good.

    By the way, my original reply was meant to be more witty than flaming, so if you took any offence, I completely apologise. You > <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo--> < Me.
  • rennexrennex Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2688Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Kalias+Feb 9 2004, 02:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kalias @ Feb 9 2004, 02:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I remember the old days of Total Annihilation, they had an entire galaxy of planets with battles going on constantly each side pushing the enemy back towards the others home world, it was really quite an excellent system, it's just a shame we're on the wrong engine and can't build in that sort of thing. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    R.I.P. Cavedog <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • MasterMikeMasterMike Join Date: 2004-01-30 Member: 25748Members
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    Fees aren't coming into play for at least 6 months, so go ahead and sign up. It's a blast.
  • crono1crono1 Join Date: 2004-01-20 Member: 25497Members, Constellation
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    Kaneda's bike pwns, hmm we're diverting, yes it'll be a great idea, can we have house Marik and Steiner? Liao were crap, they only ever had a small wedge of the galaxy <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    Purple > all. I never knew was BattleTech was until a mate got me into MPBT 3025, and it was the win!
  • SlayerOfSkulksSlayerOfSkulks Join Date: 2003-06-23 Member: 17634Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Kalias+Feb 9 2004, 07:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kalias @ Feb 9 2004, 07:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I remember the old days of Total Annihilation, they had an entire galaxy of planets with battles going on constantly each side pushing the enemy back towards the others home world, it was really quite an excellent system, it's just a shame we're on the wrong engine and can't build in that sort of thing. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hmm... I seem to remember there's a Half-Life RPG-style Mod, where each game world was on a different server, and some behind-the-scenes trickery meant that, for example, you would keep your stats and items after logging off, when changing worlds etc.

    I guess this *could* be done similar... If Flayra didn't mind completely re-writing NS and setting up specific servers to deal with each map, of course.
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